I'm not gonna talk about shirokami or prplhz today, and I'll only talk about myself if asked. OO you're right, we need to be working on finding that last scum.

With those three aside, we've got the following people:

grush - has he really never starsenses'd as scum? Does he really just tell everyone his alignment every game? I'll look into this when I get to my laptop but I guess if you play like that it may be against your wincon as scum but when we're town it would be stupid not to take advantage of it
OO - he just shot down sloosh so hard after that fake claim, but the fake claim was suspiciously bad (ie, not remembering that DP was miller). As I see it there are two options - (1) OO is telling the truth, sloosh's fake claim was just bad because it was desperate and not fully thought out; (2) sloosh's fake claim was bad on purpose to set up OO for his watcher claim.

(2) would be really risky and probably not very smart. But it's a possibility and if it was the case, it's paid off.

THAT SAID, I think the safest assumption set here is "keep it simple stupid." I think in a vacuum given only the cc, it points to OO being town in something like 90% of cases.

The day 1 thing with oatsmaster's missing vote still bugs me though. But I feel like most of OO's play has been quite townie, although that's kind of a gut feeling ATM and not based on actually retreading the thread. Anyway I'd say that OO is probably like 90% town.
VE - some of his reads have been bad but the whole bh/hiropro situation puts me in a townie place on him. If he'd stayed on hiropro then hiro would've been insta-lynched when the safe period ran out; instead, VE ran around shouting for people to switch to BH, which probably led to BH getting shot that night. Some of his reads have been bad but I've definitely seen that from town-VE.

Anyway, all that is pretty moot because there's the thing on him from oatsmaster, which I agree with OO and VE is probably a green check breadcrumb. There's always a chance that something funky is up; but I'd put VE's chances of being town about equal with OO's if not higher.
that leaves kushnasta. I'm gonna have to look more carefully into his filter and the stuff people were saying about him last night. But given what I know (my alignment) I'm pushed really strongly to believe that either grush is lying with starsenses or kush is scum and doing quite a good job at it.

I know this probably won't be satisfying for the people who think I'm scum but it's where I'm at right now. At least it doesn't feel like there's any hurry but I'll try and get up an analysis post on kush or grush this afternoon.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 24 2013 15:01 GMT

#2144

cool so you should nk me and grush last if you are using us as your fake scumreads.

snb I will make sure you are lynched if you don't nk me.

now vote shirokami so we can move this thing along.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

May 24 2013 17:06 GMT

#2145

Based on my voting analysis, everyone alive is mafia.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

May 24 2013 18:23 GMT

#2146

Good old fashioned voting analysis

D1: [Kush - "i think this is how he plays scum"] voted for BH. Everyone else was on town. No lynch occurred. Main wagon on OO voters alive today: SNB, VE. Both Sloosh and BH were also on it. At most one of VE and SNB is scum.

ObviousOne[L-1]: Promethelax, HiroPro, raynpelikoneet, ~~ObviousOne~~, Blazinghand,WaveofShadow, strongandbig, VisceraEyes,sl0osh,VayneAuthority

D2: [Shiro - "goodnight sweet prince" bandwagon, offset the balance? Did all the rest of the scum vote for Hiro to make sure it stuck after a failed mislynch D1?] voted for BH. [OO - bachelor party] missed the HiroPro vote. Everyone else alive was on the Hiro lynch. Kush and VE waffled like crazy between Hiro and BH. At least 1 Scum definitely in this group: SNB, VE, Kush, Prp

HiroPro[Lynched]: ~~VisceraEyes~~, ~~kushmasta~~, ~~Promethelax~~, strongandbig, ~~grush57~~, prplhz, WaveofShadow, ~~shirokami~~, ~~VisceraEyes~~, slOosh, grush57 ,VisceraEyes, kushm4sta

D3: [OO - voting for scum read] and [Grush - voting for scum read] on Prp wagon. [VE - being AFK] missed the vote. Everyone else lynched SK. 2-3 Scum definitely in this group: Prp, Shiro, SNB, Kush

Promethelax[LYNCHED]: sloosh, Oatsmaster, shirokami, ~~kushmasta~~, strongandbig, kushmasta, prplhz

D4: [Prp - ??? gave up?], [VE - being AFK more], [Grush] missed the vote. Everyone else dunked Sloosh. Quick hammered. Foregone conclusion, nothing to take away from this.

sl0osh [LYNCHED]: ObviousOne, Oatsmaster, shirokami, strongandbig, kushmasta

SNB's name pops up the most to me in the lynch lists as potential scum.

Let's quick-look at votes.

-Oats - for being Oats/random/stupid/craycray [boils down to stylistic policy]
-OO - for OO miller grilling and martyr [boils down to martyr policy]
-HiroPro - for dropping suspicion of OO suddenly, playing a tight game [boils down to activity policy]
-Prome - SK speculation plus working with sloosh [finally some excitement and walls of text in pushing for prome]
-Sloosh - because DUNKED you can't come back from an OO CC

SNB's most enthusiastic involvement in the thread when it wasn't defending himself was pushing policies and lynching 3P. (also serves as TL;DR)

Sorry I would keep going but I'm falling asleep with this.

P.S. If SNB comes back with a town read on Kush that essentially makes me 100% mafia for him (unless he disbelieves the Starsenses) with the way he worded that post. Grush, what happens when people disregard Starsenses? TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENS. Please tell us, I don't want like the universe to implode or anything...

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

May 24 2013 19:10 GMT

#2147

##vote: Shirokami

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

May 24 2013 19:10 GMT

#2148

##Vote: shirokami

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 24 2013 19:10 GMT

#2149

##thuglyfe

##outlawz

##wessyde

##Vote shirokami

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 24 2013 19:10 GMT

#2150

omigosh

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

May 24 2013 19:12 GMT

#2151

Shirokami[LYNCHED]: kushmasta, strongandbig, VisceraEyes, prplhz

Shirokami has been lynched!

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 24 2013 19:14 GMT

#2152

you better be right about this kush

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

May 24 2013 19:15 GMT

#2153

On May 25 2013 04:14 prplhz wrote:
you better be right about this kush

jerk

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 24 2013 19:16 GMT

#2154

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

May 24 2013 19:16 GMT

#2155

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

May 24 2013 19:21 GMT

#2156

Well? WELL????

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

May 24 2013 19:22 GMT

#2157

el flip scum plox

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 24 2013 19:24 GMT

#2158

zero anticipation from me because I know he's scum.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

May 24 2013 19:25 GMT

#2159

Night 5

He was the Old man in a Wheelchair (Vanilla Town)

+ Show Spoiler [role PM] +

Old Man in a Wheelchair (Vanilla Town) - Welcome to another wonderful adventure with Carnival Cruise lines where high fantasy meets the high seas! Your grandkids sent you on this all inclusive packaged vacation to enjoy the last days of your life. Unfortunately none of them felt like pushing whats left of your corpse around in a wheelchair so you're all alone. Word has gotten out that some passengers are trying to skate by on not paying their fare and nothing makes your old bones creak worse than cheapskates. Except the dysentery in your colon. You win when all threats to the cruise passengers (Town) are eliminated. Good luck! Have fun!

It is now Night 5. Same deadline as always at Sunday, May 26 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)