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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
I don't care how convincing some of these scummy fucks are. These are 100% the scumteam and you better vote them all and never be convinced otherwise. I will quit mafia forever if I'm wrong. And to the two people they decide not to nk, I swear to jesus if you don't lynch through this list I will hate you literally forever. shirukami snb prplz | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
INTO THE LUNAR PLANES OF THE UNIVERSE, KUSH | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 23 2013 09:08 kushm4sta wrote: obviousone you are a mafia genius for checking what's his name d1. I appologize for your near hammer day1. For some reason scum chose to save you and that was their undoing . I love you. It's very sad that you are going to die. You are going to die actually because you are confirmed town now. Rest in peace sweet prince. Lol I was so mad they didn't kill me N0. They should take note. | ||
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shirokami
Finland107 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 23 2013 09:18 prplhz wrote: oo who we lynch tomorrow? You have til deadline to show me which of my town reads is mafia. Go. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Tick tock, prplhz | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 23 2013 09:13 shirokami wrote: fuck you kush, are you scum? That's not scum hunting, that's being mad. I already saved your life by moving you to the end of the list and this is how you repay me? THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY ME?! | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 23 2013 01:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Jesus Christ guys. Honestly it may be best if you guys lynch me if we reach a point where we're ahead - especially if we're just going to fast-hammer stuff; I simply don't have time to keep up  Better to clear me from the pool once we reach that point than have me alive at LYLO.I was very wrong about both BH and slOosh, so I'm paranoid that I'm wrong about prplhz and he's actually town. Outside possibility given his play, but frankly I'm questioning everything given my strongest townreads (aside from OO) keep flipping scum XD I'm going to see who I think is the best lynch tomorrow and I'll get back with you guys (I promise this time). On May 23 2013 01:43 VisceraEyes wrote: OO SWEAR TO ME THAT YOU'RE NOT SCUM!! SWEAR IT!!!! I swear it on the precious, dude. O'Doyle Rules. If you think I have it in me to have a longer filter than you as mafia you are so sadly mistaken and I will take that as the highest form of flattery. Tick tock, better read up on Prplhz, if you think he's potentially town, show me why, because he's next and if it's not him, it's SNB. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 23 2013 08:36 kushm4sta wrote: Listen if I die today NO BODY better deviate from the list. I don't care how convincing some of these scummy fucks are. These are 100% the scumteam and you better vote them all and never be convinced otherwise. I will quit mafia forever if I'm wrong. And to the two people they decide not to nk, I swear to jesus if you don't lynch through this list I will hate you literally forever. shirukami snb prplz On May 23 2013 09:08 kushm4sta wrote: obviousone you are a mafia genius for checking what's his name d1. I appologize for your near hammer day1. For some reason scum chose to save you and that was their undoing . I love you. It's very sad that you are going to die. You are going to die actually because you are confirmed town now. Rest in peace sweet prince. This is really strange and incongruent thinking. One moment you're fearing for your life from NK, the next you're telling me I'm confirmed town and that I will die next. It's bothering me quite a lot for some reason. Also you don't need to panic, we have more than a day of night phase, so it's best if you can organize everything for the town in case I'm somehow mafia and/or I don't die. The idea I get from reading these two posts, back to back, is that either you wanted the first one to be ignored by attempting to bury it or you're just super excited and thinking night ends in 3 hours somehow. Either way, let's get your lynch list coordinated together your reasons summarized for each of the three so that everything is transparent from both of us. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
First, I want to apologize to town for my weak showing in this game. I've been basically absent for 2 game days and there is no excuse. Hopefully this last push will make up for it in some small way, if only by clearing myself from possible suspects. Now, here's where I see thread sentiment in order of what I perceive to be collective lynch preferences. prplhz shirokami SnB Oatsmaster VE kushm4sta grush OO I'll go over each of them in turn and decide where I stand on them, and at the end will decide who I think tomorrow's lynch should be. prplhz: I've gone over and over his filter (because it's short and I can do that). Frankly my problem with prplhz stemmed exclusively from his waffle on HiroPro early on. But frankly, the game has played out in such a way that I believe that scum meant for prplhz to be a followup lynch to Promethelax getting lynched. Obviously they couldn't have anticipated OO's boss-level counter-claim to slOosh's fake-claim, but I think that the intent was to get prplhz lynched. Keep in mind: unless they shot him themselves, scum didn't think BH was going to be dead come D3. They intended for him to be alive, and presumably, for Promethelax to be dead. BH was gearing up for a prplhz push on D3 based on his "horrible meta case on kush"…which if you'll go and read the post in question, isn't so horrible at all. His case on kushm4sta was…okay as far as meta cases go. I went back and read the games in question and he's right - there are differences in the way he's presenting both himself and his scumreads. Not that I agree that Kush MUST be scum as a result, just saying - I found it far townier than most everything in his filter…and verily more townie than some who are considered "obvTown" today. I think prplhz is a planned mislynch. Verdict: Town shirokami: This guy isn't interested in helping us find scum at all. He's literally just flitting around the popular lynches and voting. Even I've got more content and activity in this thread than shirokami does, and I've been absent for 2 game days. Plus I find this post incredibly incriminating On May 23 2013 02:26 shirokami wrote: No, lynch me last. Im not scum kush, im starting to think you are the last one because in that order town loses. …given the conclusion I just made about prplhz. I think he's banking on the fact that town is ready to lynch prplhz, and that's why we're seeing baseline-activity from this guy consistently. He doesn't have to be any more active because he's not under as much heat as prplhz has been for like most of the game now. I can't see anything in his filter that makes me think town anymore. The town-drop I saw earlier could just as easily be newbie-scum, and his disinterest in talking to town in any meaningful way is just fueling my growing disease with this slot. Verdict: Scum strongandbig: There's a lot of stuff I like in SnB's posts…the way he went about his attack of Oats for instance. He sought out opinions from others, drawing attention to his attack, etc. It just seems too ballsy for scumSnB. His inactivity is a factor, but it's no worse than mine so I'm not factoring that in. Suffice to say that when he's here I think he's posting with a townie mindset. Also everyone should take another look at this post here: On May 17 2013 03:20 strongandbig wrote: okay so this is the first thing that makes me really wonder about oatsmaster being scum. Let me break it down for you guys: there are three possibilities here:
I consider the first of these options extremely unlikely; much less likely than either of the other two. First, votesteal is almost a useless power for townies; and it's very weird that someone would've used it D1. So let's say that oats's vote was stolen by scum; why didn't they use it to hammer OO? If he's town, it's free KP for them. Conclusion: he's scum. On the other hand, we have the case where oat's vote wasn't stolen by scum or town. Well, clearly his vote didn't count yesterday? If his vote wasn't stolen, then that would have to mean that his vote was canceled for some other reason. By far the most likely case where that happens is the case where he's scum - there's a clear scum motivation for having your vote not count. You can jump on your teammates' bandwagons all you want; you can ignore attacks on your voting record by just saying "oh my vote was stolen"; and it makes you look townie if you can persuade people that your vote was stolen by the scum team. So, I think we have a pretty good choice here. Between OO and Oats, I think we have a scum. This needs attention. Especially considering slOosh' flip…with a secret hammer on their side, why would scum NOT hammer down OO if OO is, in fact, a town-aligned Watcher? Think it through - if even one scum is "confirmed town" then the whole game is fucked for town. Think LX. And slOosh makes a terribad claim (with Mac truck sized holes in it) which CONVENIENTLY OO is in a position to refute. Because he checked the miller claim on D1. Hoping for......what? Scum to frame him? To catch a cop checking him? What was OO's reasoning for checking DP? Verdict: Town ObviousOne: I broke order because I just had a WTF moment. OO IS SCUM!! Look at SnB's post, then look at OO's claim, then look at slOosh's claim, then look at OO's claim again, then look at SnB's post again, then look at MY post again. slOosh's last posts re: OO's claim look like a desperate attempt to distance himself from OO when he flips. How do I know? Because his points are completely valid! slOosh flipped scum right? Scum know when other scum are acting scummy because THEY KNOW they're scum! slOosh's points are extremely valid re: OO's claim. OO's explanation doesn't make any sense - here it is: On May 22 2013 12:39 ObviousOne wrote: Because I wanted to check if he was shot protected or copped? Parity cop is the only cop check that makes sense on a claimed miller but no detective actions were taken. None. You lied despite your lie being half believable. Except for the part where Prome shows up town to a parity cop. And that all your checks were amazing despite your lack of attention to the game. You would have received Same Same of I was mafia. You claim Same Different. 1) According to the OP, mafia's KP is factional and cannot be role blocked (or in the same vein, Watched.) So he couldn't have been looking for scum. That leaves 2) "or copped". He was blue sniping if he's a watcher at all. There's literally no reason for a town-aligned player to be "looking for blues" by way of watching the miller claim. OO is a sharp guy, and he definitely doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would waste his action on a MILLER claim. Christ on a cross, that's WHY millers claim, so townies don't waste their MOAMOVMAOVNIAVNING ACTION on them. OO was at L-1 with a scum-aligned hammering role in the game. He'd have you believe that "Oh, well obviously scum are taking a gambit that they'll be able to lynch me"...which would almost be believable, except that no one but ME has really pushed for an OO lynch after that fact. And I'M not fucking scum. So why? Why would they DO that? Also On May 23 2013 08:04 ObviousOne wrote: Now we know for sure he wasn't around. D1 voting he could have hammered me silently. Also lol sharks. Many thanks to Ace for not letting mafia send in actions for eachother. Let's see who suggested that would be the case in thi game. They probably knew about it since, you know, they're mafia. I guess present company is excluded right? Unless you're referring to something someone else said, you're the one saying this is the case. How do you know? On May 23 2013 08:11 ObviousOne wrote: Wait he posted that I was at L-1 right? Wtf lol guess BH told him not to? That would mean BH would have to do work. Hrm. Why didn't he hammer? The guilty conscience is palpable. It's because OO is scum and he's taking you all for a ride. I'm getting off, right here. *pulls cord* That's good enough for me actually. I want to lynch ObviousOne tomorrow which should flow nicely into a shirokami lynch the following day. Final answer. I'll get to everyone I've missed later, but I've spent too much time on this as it is and we've got another 24 hours before deadline (according to the lynch post). If anything changes after I finish filtering I'll let you guys know. OO: if you're town you're going to have to explain in further detail why you checked DP. It makes far more sense for me to believe that as scum you were just trying to buy cred by "refuting" slOosh's claim than it is for me to believe that as town you thought it was a good idea to check DP N1. shiro/prplhz: if you're town, you're going to have to do something...anything...to avoid getting lynched tomorrow. Everyone needs to be aware that going into tomorrow, scum are going to be in a position to hammer anyone if even one person votes incorrectly. Regardless of how strongly you feel about your reads, don't be a hero and think "oh well my target is 100% scum" and just blatantly disregard the opinions of others. It's not fair, and I want to win. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
@OO see this is what I was talking about. I only care about if I die because the people who they don't kill are going to start doing retarded shit. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
I'll break it down for you, the heretic, right before I dunk you tomorrow. My power is watcher. I watch 1 person. I talked a lot about potential circumstances surrounding the miller claim from DP. One such possibility included a potential framer action. Regardless of whether not not DP died, I wanted to test my theory regarding him potentially being framed for cops to check him. The results were: he was killed. No cop checks, no framer usage, no protection, just death. By watching DP I potentially get a ton of information based on how much discussion n0 revolved around him and his claim. Sloosh made a parity cop claim and as such I knew he was bullshitting because NO INVESTOGATIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN ON DP. Outside of the claim, look at what sloosh said: he checked DP and then he checked me and got same AND HE DROPPED IT. Miller is red. Therefore I should have been red and he should have been on my testicles like pubic hair. The fact that you overlooked this is staggering. You're thinking like mafia and you should die for it. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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ObviousOne
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