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SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 04:51 GMT
#1221
Jesus christ you people aren't too bright. I was asleep and sandro was posting. I told you I had 30 minutes. Can anyone actually explain what about my play makes me mafia? No one has even attempted to.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 04:55 GMT
#1222
I'm not mafia, and even if you think I'm mafia, DESPITE THERE BEING NO CASE AT ALL, you should shoot that nuke down as it confirms a player and gives us the chance to convince you otherwise
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 15 2013 04:56 GMT
#1223
On April 15 2013 13:55 SamuelLJackson wrote:
I'm not mafia, and even if you think I'm mafia, DESPITE THERE BEING NO CASE AT ALL, you should shoot that nuke down as it confirms a player and gives us the chance to convince you otherwise

Please do not listen to this man.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 15 2013 04:56 GMT
#1224
By that I mean:

Until you scumhunt, you die.
MockArmor
Profile Joined April 2013
Vatican City State88 Posts
April 15 2013 04:57 GMT
#1225
On April 15 2013 13:51 John Matrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 06:40 FiveTouch wrote:
I don't feel strongly enough about raynmaster being town to actually protect him. So we'll see how it goes.

~marv

Thats the best quote hahahah.

If Marv is scum; thats such a hillarious truth.

I think its a valid slip anyways.

Town are concerned about mislynching town, but certainly not about "protecting" town..
Scum on the other hand, are trying to protect the "brotherhood".
Mocsta + GoodKarma
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 04:58 GMT
#1226
On April 15 2013 13:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
By that I mean:

Until you scumhunt, you die.

Can you point to a single thing in my filter that is indicative of me not being straightforward with my thoughts? No, because it's not possible. Your case amounts to a stupid meta assumption of me always, under every circumstances and format, being useful and not lazy. You aren't even trying.
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 15 2013 04:58 GMT
#1227
Repost as I don't want this buried
On April 15 2013 13:26 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 13:24 John Matrix wrote:
On April 15 2013 13:15 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
I highly doubt marv/VE are mafia

But yes, out of the 4 basically confirmed town (myself, JM, SB, FT), they are definitely the weakest read.


Remove 5touch from that list. Notice how VE was backflipping around the scum lynch and using weak as shit excuses in order to do so and marv provided resistance to my RaynMaster push when I first went after him.

Basically fivetouch is null. and should be treated as such.

-DP

Can you show me?

I'm a little busy atm.


Sigh. OK

On April 14 2013 20:09 FiveTouch wrote:
Anyways, rayn seems to be a pretty hot topic at the moment. I got a kinda townie feeling from him with his stupid/dumb read of being suspicious of VE's reaction to the 'nuke'. I pressed him on it a few times, and it felt like he was legitimately trying to explain it to me rather than just saying it for the sake of saying it, even though it's nonsense.

~marv


On April 14 2013 20:15 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 20:13 raynmaster wrote:
On April 14 2013 20:09 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 14 2013 17:23 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Actually rather explain your read on Touchey. Besides what I noted earlier, their activity has remained low and I don't like the comment about me having a 0% track record on him. It's a) not true (in chrono I was initially, but not in the end wrong about him) b) a claim mafia from my experience is more likely to make.


Er... can we have some, like, clarity on who is being called what? I had assumed I/VE were being referred to as "Touchey" and the like, but apparently this is referring to FondleMyButtocks. Cue me wasting my time to see if our filter contained anything to do with syllo's reads on me because that made no sense to me.

Anyways, rayn seems to be a pretty hot topic at the moment. I got a kinda townie feeling from him with his stupid/dumb read of being suspicious of VE's reaction to the 'nuke'. I pressed him on it a few times, and it felt like he was legitimately trying to explain it to me rather than just saying it for the sake of saying it, even though it's nonsense.

~marv

Thats not the point of DP's case and his reasoning on why he thinks im scummy. Why are you still living in the past?
Comment on current ongoings, dont be like palmar please.
What do you think of his random long post btw and the reads he expressed?


I don't give a shit about DP's case, I'm commenting on the feelings *I* have got from you so far. Now shoo.

~marv


On April 14 2013 21:35 FiveTouch wrote:
He's not asking you to convince him he's mafia, he's asking you to talk about his read on him. Shutting him off won't help that very much. If he's town you're not giving him space to prove himself with dialogue with you.

You did the same "I'm not going to speak with you any more" last game on me and it was really irritating, because I was town.

~marv


Resistance to my push on RaynMaster. Not blatant defending. But it was clearly there.

Another weird thing was marv's voting up[ until the lynch didn't seem very invested.

On April 15 2013 03:26 FiveTouch wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: FondleMyButtocks


Gonna vote for him now. I'd like anyone who cares to, palmar/syllo/hapa/yamato, whoever, to talk about my concerns slightly further up though.

~marv


On April 15 2013 05:29 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 05:27 VIVAX420 wrote:
On April 15 2013 05:26 FiveTouch wrote:
On April 15 2013 05:25 VIVAX420 wrote:
i give a shit it's just that there are a bunch of people who could easily be scum. Except because of the votes it is now very unlikely that one of those people is FMB. Yet people are still voting for him...


you're still voting for him.

NO IM NOT


oh yes. My bad

let's kill NSB. why not, right?

##Unvote
##Vote: NeutralSrvivingBalrog


On April 15 2013 05:51 FiveTouch wrote:
why don't we just kill NSB to get rid of him. that sounds fantastic.

~marv


On April 15 2013 05:57 FiveTouch wrote:
I could kill Vivax, mainly because he doesn't seem to give a shit about this lynch, and Vivax always has very strong feelings about the lynch as town.

~marv


All while I was trying to get my scum lynch goign.

5touch on and off the wagon.

On April 15 2013 06:13 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 06:11 FiveTouch wrote:
I approve of this.

-VE


apparently VE wishes this. I'm gonna go play Starcraft instead.

##Unvote
##Vote: raynmaster


Then Palmar makes a joke. And i explain the joke and provide evidence but that seems a good enough reason to backflip from RM

On April 15 2013 06:20 FiveTouch wrote:
Wait wait wait....what? What was that arbitrary statistical nonsense Palmar?


On April 15 2013 06:22 FiveTouch wrote:
##Unvote

I'm hwaiting.


On April 15 2013 06:25 FiveTouch wrote:
Well I'm leaving it unvoted for a minute. I'm discussing this with marv presently. He's got a townread I don't want to dismiss.


More Resistence to the lynch

On April 15 2013 06:39 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 06:30 John Matrix wrote:
On April 15 2013 06:27 FiveTouch wrote:
It feels like one of those gutty townreads he gets...I don't like ignoring those. I have reasons for being suspicious of rayn and he hasn't commented on them at all. He likes the push on Hapa, but doesn't explain why it has to be town motivated when sentiment was against Hapa anyway (imo).

But he's not often wrong about townreads. Hence, I'm waiting to discuss it with him.


Beer goggles

-DP


it's true, i'm very rarely wrong about townreads. Oats was an exception.



On April 15 2013 06:40 FiveTouch wrote:
I don't feel strongly enough about raynmaster being town to actually protect him. So we'll see how it goes.

~marv


On April 15 2013 06:40 FiveTouch wrote:
still dunno why we're just leaving NSB alive though. Whatever.



On April 15 2013 06:41 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 06:40 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
So are we going to get the details of this town-read of yours marv?


i've talked about it already.


On April 15 2013 06:47 FiveTouch wrote:
I would love to lynch NSB. Love it.


Then after we have a majority.

On April 15 2013 06:50 FiveTouch wrote:
well I'm glad VE does. we need a majority?

##Vote: ranymaster


No but thankyou marv for explaining why you are voting your townread after providing considerable resistance to his lynch.

Then after all that marv trys to say he thought RaynMaster was scum after all?

On April 15 2013 07:18 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 07:01 John Matrix wrote:
list of marv gutreads on oatsscum:


Town
Town


who was i voting for dear?

~marv


There is no reason to have a gut town read on 5touch in my mind and every reason to continue to apply a scathing critique and watchful eye on him.

-DP
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 05:00 GMT
#1228
If there is an anti-nuker out there who understands the concept of timezones, shoot the nuke down, thanks.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 15 2013 05:01 GMT
#1229
On April 15 2013 13:58 SamuelLJackson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 13:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
By that I mean:

Until you scumhunt, you die.

Can you point to a single thing in my filter that is indicative of me not being straightforward with my thoughts? No, because it's not possible. Your case amounts to a stupid meta assumption of me always, under every circumstances and format, being useful and not lazy. You aren't even trying.

Over 48 hours, I expect you to have produced content worthy of being called scumhunting, yes.

You had this exact same metric for use as your scumhunting method, as I pointed out.

BY YOUR OWN WORDS, YOU ARE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR BEING MAFIA

It's rather easy.
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 15 2013 05:02 GMT
#1230
On April 15 2013 14:00 SamuelLJackson wrote:
If there is an anti-nuker out there who understands the concept of timezones, shoot the nuke down, thanks.


Gives us some reads because If you are town you may actually be confirmed shortly.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 05:07 GMT
#1231
I'll likely come up with something when I'm home and get a chance to discuss things with sandro, although putting in effort after being nuked out of the blue n1 while I was asleep is difficult
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 06:30 GMT
#1232
On April 15 2013 07:38 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 07:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
Hmmm I'm not sure about killing syllo. Everyone remember his plan for people to nuke themselves?

On April 13 2013 16:51 SamuelLJackson wrote:
How about we have either have everyone nuke themselves? It's seems very likely that at least mafia has a nuke, and possibly both mafia and town. It's 8-3, but, without taking nukes into account, that doesn't impact the number of mislynches we have, and therefore I think it's very unlikely that mafia has no roles given how much everyone being a hydra favors town. With this assumption at worst we get a 1-1 trade and if there's an anti-nuker, we could even decide to save one.


Not a bad plan and I wouldn't expect mafia to come up with something like this.

No, it was a terrible plan.

Terrible.

No, you are terrible. It was an incredibly pro-town plan that was only foiled by the fact that you could also nuke over PMs, which I clearly did not know about, because if you work on the assumption that I'm mafia, I would have known that someone would point out the flaw and make the plan would suddenly look pro-mafia.
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 06:33 GMT
#1233
So, by nuking me, congratulations for essentially nullifying the advantage we gained by lynching the mafia nuker on day 1.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 15 2013 06:37 GMT
#1234
Syllo - the issue here is that you (or sandro) left us promising to read through filters hours before the deadline, and did nothing instead, leaving your vote on what looks to be a guaranteed townie at this point.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 15 2013 06:39 GMT
#1235
Smurf you asked what I meant about 5touch and I posted a heap. What do you think?

Sammy, I would like to know who you think is most likely to flip scum assuming you are town. We lynched scum day one so even if you die it is not the end of the world.

I understand that you are furious about getting nuked like this, but it would be greatly appreciated if you could make an effort and put us on the right track.

-DP
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 15 2013 06:40 GMT
#1236
Btw, anti-nuker should claim.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
SamuelLJackson
Profile Joined December 2011
223 Posts
April 15 2013 06:41 GMT
#1237
On April 15 2013 15:37 Hapahauli wrote:
Syllo - the issue here is that you (or sandro) left us promising to read through filters hours before the deadline, and did nothing instead, leaving your vote on what looks to be a guaranteed townie at this point.

I didn't promise anything, I said I had 30 minutes and then went to bed. Sandro apparently had to go out for a dinner and it doesn't look like he promised anything either.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 15 2013 06:50 GMT
#1238
On April 15 2013 15:39 John Matrix wrote:
Smurf you asked what I meant about 5touch and I posted a heap. What do you think?

Sammy, I would like to know who you think is most likely to flip scum assuming you are town. We lynched scum day one so even if you die it is not the end of the world.

I understand that you are furious about getting nuked like this, but it would be greatly appreciated if you could make an effort and put us on the right track.

-DP

It's something to think about, but I have a decent townread on VE, so I'll leave it alone for now.

I haven't seen my copyright VE scumtell of ultimate certainty, so there's that in his favor.
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 15 2013 06:59 GMT
#1239
On April 15 2013 15:50 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:39 John Matrix wrote:
Smurf you asked what I meant about 5touch and I posted a heap. What do you think?

Sammy, I would like to know who you think is most likely to flip scum assuming you are town. We lynched scum day one so even if you die it is not the end of the world.

I understand that you are furious about getting nuked like this, but it would be greatly appreciated if you could make an effort and put us on the right track.

-DP

It's something to think about, but I have a decent townread on VE, so I'll leave it alone for now.

I haven't seen my copyright VE scumtell of ultimate certainty, so there's that in his favor.


He shouldn;t be a town read is what i am saying.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 15 2013 07:01 GMT
#1240
On April 15 2013 15:59 John Matrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 15:50 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 15 2013 15:39 John Matrix wrote:
Smurf you asked what I meant about 5touch and I posted a heap. What do you think?

Sammy, I would like to know who you think is most likely to flip scum assuming you are town. We lynched scum day one so even if you die it is not the end of the world.

I understand that you are furious about getting nuked like this, but it would be greatly appreciated if you could make an effort and put us on the right track.

-DP

It's something to think about, but I have a decent townread on VE, so I'll leave it alone for now.

I haven't seen my copyright VE scumtell of ultimate certainty, so there's that in his favor.


He shouldn;t be a town read is what i am saying.

It's not like I'm coming to any conclusions based on my read of him at this time.

It's really inconsequential, as there are many better targets.
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