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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:37 GMT
#341
~marv
Artanis & marv
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 13 2013 00:37 GMT
#342
On April 13 2013 09:28 VIVAX420 wrote:
Come on, some people didn't even post and I'm not guaranteeing for anyone but early tunnels for stupid reasons are something we don't need.

Hapa attacks VE cause he thinks he said anti-town stuff, yamato attacks Hapa cause he says it's not anti-town from VE.
→ not-so-good reasons from both sides. But Hapa's argument could fit into a policy against anti-town play, yamato's possible motives for defending VE and keeping up the comfy tunnel..I find scummy.

All I saw of relevance was Yamato defending FT and then denying that he's defending him, coupled with an early tunnel and excessive aggression.


I like this post.
-DP
ShotgunBiceps
Profile Joined April 2013
171 Posts
April 13 2013 00:38 GMT
#343
On April 13 2013 09:32 VIVAX420 wrote:
Shotgun, VE being openly lazy and careless doesn't make him scum, I have to say that keeping to push that as only reason for thinking he's scum doesn't look good, why don't you inquire further if you have a suspicion instead of defending your argument?


Well I'm waiting for VE to respond. Hard to pursue my suspicion when several people are sheidling him.

In fact I'd love nothing more htan to have a 1v1 conversation with VE right now so I can sort out if my read has more basis or not. Unfortunately people aren't letting me do so. But it's creating discussion, so I suppose that's fine.
Hapahauli/jampidampi
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 13 2013 00:38 GMT
#344
So now it's not alignment indicative?
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:39 GMT
#345
I'm right here. You're the one not talking to me Hapa.
Artanis & marv
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 13 2013 00:40 GMT
#346
On April 13 2013 09:27 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:22 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:11 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:10 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:55 VIVAX420 wrote:
ISH what makes you so sure that VE is town that you go as far as to defend him at this stage of the game?

Not defending him, Hapa looks odd. Why you not actually pressuring anyone?


Well you actually are defending him. Do you know what I find odd? I find it odd that VE would use being srs as an excuse for some out of character behavior and then proceed to be not srs ever since that point.

Also we are mod confirmed town now apparently.

YAY!

-DP

What the actual fuck, you better have some kind of proof of this.


Why don't you read the thread and see? I just did and when someone says they are going to be serious as an excuse and then proceed not to be serious don't you find that odd?

- DP

Yeah, but the problem is, HE'S BEING SERIOUS

Like, you're second on my lynch list if Hapa is actually town.

He was also not serious after that point.
On April 13 2013 08:27 FiveTouch wrote:
Well this is exciting and everything, but I've gotta go watch grass grow. Sorry, if it was anything less thrilling you know I'd be in here instead, but DAT FUCKING GRASS MAN.


Now I am not saying he can't joke around but I found it odd that he would say he was trying to be serious and then post something like this. W/E just found it odd. Now please discuss your threat of a vote to me? If you believe I was wrong does that make us scum? I find all this bluster ridiculous.

Also we are confirmed town or something so i don't care.

-DP
Now I am not

It does make you someone worth looking at if you're spouting pure lies, lol.

Now show me some VE wuotes after that one where he's not being serious and I'll retract my threat to lynch you.


On April 13 2013 08:51 FiveTouch wrote:
You monologued too much Hapa. Haven't you ever seen Incredibles?


If you want to lynch me you are bad. Go away.

-DP
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 13 2013 00:41 GMT
#347
Flood Control is annoying and I can't reply as rapidly as I'd like to everyone. Just goign to post on my main account and quote-block everything to my filter

On April 13 2013 09:35 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
This whole thing reminds me of RTP, Hapa, only you're me with the terrible case that ignores meta, and I'm you calling bullshit.


What's the comparison to RTP?

Also on the subject of meta, to what scum-games of mine does my behavior so far compare to?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 13 2013 00:43 GMT
#348
On April 13 2013 09:40 John Matrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:27 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:22 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:11 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:10 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:55 VIVAX420 wrote:
ISH what makes you so sure that VE is town that you go as far as to defend him at this stage of the game?

Not defending him, Hapa looks odd. Why you not actually pressuring anyone?


Well you actually are defending him. Do you know what I find odd? I find it odd that VE would use being srs as an excuse for some out of character behavior and then proceed to be not srs ever since that point.

Also we are mod confirmed town now apparently.

YAY!

-DP

What the actual fuck, you better have some kind of proof of this.


Why don't you read the thread and see? I just did and when someone says they are going to be serious as an excuse and then proceed not to be serious don't you find that odd?

- DP

Yeah, but the problem is, HE'S BEING SERIOUS

Like, you're second on my lynch list if Hapa is actually town.

He was also not serious after that point.
On April 13 2013 08:27 FiveTouch wrote:
Well this is exciting and everything, but I've gotta go watch grass grow. Sorry, if it was anything less thrilling you know I'd be in here instead, but DAT FUCKING GRASS MAN.


Now I am not saying he can't joke around but I found it odd that he would say he was trying to be serious and then post something like this. W/E just found it odd. Now please discuss your threat of a vote to me? If you believe I was wrong does that make us scum? I find all this bluster ridiculous.

Also we are confirmed town or something so i don't care.

-DP
Now I am not

It does make you someone worth looking at if you're spouting pure lies, lol.

Now show me some VE wuotes after that one where he's not being serious and I'll retract my threat to lynch you.


Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 08:51 FiveTouch wrote:
You monologued too much Hapa. Haven't you ever seen Incredibles?


If you want to lynch me you are bad. Go away.

-DP

No, let's talk about this, because you're all on the sidelines snidely remarking about things while Hapa, Marv, VE and I are arguing this out.

Defend your stance more explicitly, because I GUARANTEE that I can find a serious VE quote when you explicitly said he wasn't being serious.
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
April 13 2013 00:43 GMT
#349
OH NO HAPA GO BACK TO YOUR HYDRA
Kush and Vivax
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 13 2013 00:43 GMT
#350
On April 13 2013 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Flood Control is annoying and I can't reply as rapidly as I'd like to everyone. Just goign to post on my main account and quote-block everything to my filter

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:35 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
This whole thing reminds me of RTP, Hapa, only you're me with the terrible case that ignores meta, and I'm you calling bullshit.


What's the comparison to RTP?

Also on the subject of meta, to what scum-games of mine does my behavior so far compare to?

None, but I do know that you're more than capable of being aware of why I caught you as scum in Duel and how to play differently.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 13 2013 00:45 GMT
#351
On April 13 2013 09:39 FiveTouch wrote:
I'm right here. You're the one not talking to me Hapa.


Too many people talking at once - kinda hard to focus.

Anyway, my suspicions stand that your quote was completely negative and anti-discussion. But you can't really contest that, since that's just my interpretation of it.

So let's move on to other things:

You were so eager to start discussion of actual things and "serious business." Well clearly things are more serious now, yet you've been making random troll-remarks during the course of this conversation. What gives?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 13 2013 00:46 GMT
#352
On April 13 2013 09:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:40 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:27 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:22 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:11 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:10 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:06 John Matrix wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 08:55 VIVAX420 wrote:
ISH what makes you so sure that VE is town that you go as far as to defend him at this stage of the game?

Not defending him, Hapa looks odd. Why you not actually pressuring anyone?


Well you actually are defending him. Do you know what I find odd? I find it odd that VE would use being srs as an excuse for some out of character behavior and then proceed to be not srs ever since that point.

Also we are mod confirmed town now apparently.

YAY!

-DP

What the actual fuck, you better have some kind of proof of this.


Why don't you read the thread and see? I just did and when someone says they are going to be serious as an excuse and then proceed not to be serious don't you find that odd?

- DP

Yeah, but the problem is, HE'S BEING SERIOUS

Like, you're second on my lynch list if Hapa is actually town.

He was also not serious after that point.
On April 13 2013 08:27 FiveTouch wrote:
Well this is exciting and everything, but I've gotta go watch grass grow. Sorry, if it was anything less thrilling you know I'd be in here instead, but DAT FUCKING GRASS MAN.


Now I am not saying he can't joke around but I found it odd that he would say he was trying to be serious and then post something like this. W/E just found it odd. Now please discuss your threat of a vote to me? If you believe I was wrong does that make us scum? I find all this bluster ridiculous.

Also we are confirmed town or something so i don't care.

-DP
Now I am not

It does make you someone worth looking at if you're spouting pure lies, lol.

Now show me some VE wuotes after that one where he's not being serious and I'll retract my threat to lynch you.


On April 13 2013 08:51 FiveTouch wrote:
You monologued too much Hapa. Haven't you ever seen Incredibles?


If you want to lynch me you are bad. Go away.

-DP

No, let's talk about this, because you're all on the sidelines snidely remarking about things while Hapa, Marv, VE and I are arguing this out.

Defend your stance more explicitly, because I GUARANTEE that I can find a serious VE quote when you explicitly said he wasn't being serious.


I didn't mean he was EXCLUSIVELY not being serious. I found it odd that he would state that he was as an excuse and then proceed not to be. Odd. that is my stance.

-DP
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 13 2013 00:46 GMT
#353
On April 13 2013 09:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Flood Control is annoying and I can't reply as rapidly as I'd like to everyone. Just goign to post on my main account and quote-block everything to my filter

On April 13 2013 09:35 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
This whole thing reminds me of RTP, Hapa, only you're me with the terrible case that ignores meta, and I'm you calling bullshit.


What's the comparison to RTP?

Also on the subject of meta, to what scum-games of mine does my behavior so far compare to?

None, but I do know that you're more than capable of being aware of why I caught you as scum in Duel and how to play differently.


Well the reason you caught me in Duel is because I can't play differently. I simply can't replicate my activity in my town games in my scum-games. If you think I'm capable of my current posting as scum, it's rather flattering, but unfortunately it's wrong.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 13 2013 00:47 GMT
#354
Oh heya DP - was that vote on me by you or Palmar? If it's you, just gimme the reasoning and whatnot.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:49 GMT
#355
On April 13 2013 09:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:39 FiveTouch wrote:
I'm right here. You're the one not talking to me Hapa.


Too many people talking at once - kinda hard to focus.

Anyway, my suspicions stand that your quote was completely negative and anti-discussion. But you can't really contest that, since that's just my interpretation of it.

So let's move on to other things:

You were so eager to start discussion of actual things and "serious business." Well clearly things are more serious now, yet you've been making random troll-remarks during the course of this conversation. What gives?


I don't think I've been making random troll-remarks during this conversation. I think I've been stating my mind and being honest with the thread. If you can point out which remarks you're referring to I might be able to help you further.
Artanis & marv
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 13 2013 00:49 GMT
#356
On April 13 2013 09:47 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh heya DP - was that vote on me by you or Palmar? If it's you, just gimme the reasoning and whatnot.


All my posts have been signed. So it was palmar.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
April 13 2013 00:50 GMT
#357
On April 13 2013 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Flood Control is annoying and I can't reply as rapidly as I'd like to everyone. Just goign to post on my main account and quote-block everything to my filter

On April 13 2013 09:35 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
This whole thing reminds me of RTP, Hapa, only you're me with the terrible case that ignores meta, and I'm you calling bullshit.


What's the comparison to RTP?

Also on the subject of meta, to what scum-games of mine does my behavior so far compare to?

None, but I do know that you're more than capable of being aware of why I caught you as scum in Duel and how to play differently.


Well the reason you caught me in Duel is because I can't play differently. I simply can't replicate my activity in my town games in my scum-games. If you think I'm capable of my current posting as scum, it's rather flattering, but unfortunately it's wrong.

I do doubt that you're mafia, but I find the likelihood high. I genuinely don't think you're bad enough to make that case.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 13 2013 00:50 GMT
#358
On April 13 2013 09:50 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Flood Control is annoying and I can't reply as rapidly as I'd like to everyone. Just goign to post on my main account and quote-block everything to my filter

On April 13 2013 09:35 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
This whole thing reminds me of RTP, Hapa, only you're me with the terrible case that ignores meta, and I'm you calling bullshit.


What's the comparison to RTP?

Also on the subject of meta, to what scum-games of mine does my behavior so far compare to?

None, but I do know that you're more than capable of being aware of why I caught you as scum in Duel and how to play differently.


Well the reason you caught me in Duel is because I can't play differently. I simply can't replicate my activity in my town games in my scum-games. If you think I'm capable of my current posting as scum, it's rather flattering, but unfortunately it's wrong.

I do doubt that you're mafia, but I find the likelihood high. I genuinely don't think you're bad enough to make that case.


Actually DP can tell you a thing or two about my bad cases on Day 1 as town.

Anyway I'm going to finish with VE and then we can have a chat. Toodles for now.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
John Matrix
Profile Joined October 2012
163 Posts
April 13 2013 00:53 GMT
#359
On April 13 2013 09:50 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On April 13 2013 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Flood Control is annoying and I can't reply as rapidly as I'd like to everyone. Just goign to post on my main account and quote-block everything to my filter

On April 13 2013 09:35 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
This whole thing reminds me of RTP, Hapa, only you're me with the terrible case that ignores meta, and I'm you calling bullshit.


What's the comparison to RTP?

Also on the subject of meta, to what scum-games of mine does my behavior so far compare to?

None, but I do know that you're more than capable of being aware of why I caught you as scum in Duel and how to play differently.


Well the reason you caught me in Duel is because I can't play differently. I simply can't replicate my activity in my town games in my scum-games. If you think I'm capable of my current posting as scum, it's rather flattering, but unfortunately it's wrong.

I do doubt that you're mafia, but I find the likelihood high. I genuinely don't think you're bad enough to make that case.


Just saying, this is bad reasoning. I used to say the same thing about marv, and then thought he was scum several times for being 'bad' when he was not. I think we can agree that marv is probably a better player than hapa (no offense) and if marv can be wrong/bad a whole hell of a lot so can hapa.

FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
April 13 2013 00:53 GMT
#360
@Hapa
Oh and I bolded the statement that invalidates your entire stance. You've been arguing that your read is good because my post is objectively scummy, yet you state yourself that there's NO DEFENSE TO BE MADE because it's based on your interpretation of my post, or in other words, not objective at all, rather subjective.
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