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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2013 15:12 GMT
#1581
how about the first point, i'm pretty sure i could point out more than nothing in palmar's filter that shows that he has given shit about anything this game.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 10 2013 15:12 GMT
#1582
On April 11 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you just called me scum without nothing to back off your read in hopes that when we would lynch Tunkeg on D3 you could then call me scum?

No I thought you were scum because bad case, especially with Tunkeg wholesale sheeping your case when HE NEVER DID BEFORE.

Now that a day has gone, and I thought about it, I realized that my heuristic was bad and read your filter.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 10 2013 15:14 GMT
#1583
On April 11 2013 00:12 prplhz wrote:
how about the first point, i'm pretty sure i could point out more than nothing in palmar's filter that shows that he has given shit about anything this game.

What has Palmar done other than sheeped marv?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2013 15:16 GMT
#1584
On April 11 2013 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 00:12 prplhz wrote:
how about the first point, i'm pretty sure i could point out more than nothing in palmar's filter that shows that he has given shit about anything this game.

What has Palmar done other than sheeped marv?

well just to mention one thing (which disproves you "nothing" hypothesis), he voted for and pushed axle when him and marv were on ace and marv was pushing ace hard.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 10 2013 15:17 GMT
#1585
Well I was gonna wait for Palmar to answer, but since you asked,
On April 11 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Point out where am i wrong in this:
Show nested quote +
TLDR;
- There is nothing in Palmar's play that shows that he has given shit about anything in this game.
- His strange "i'll give reads about all the people" is really uncharacteristic for him, usually he pushes his strongest scumread and tries to convince other people to lynch that guy.
weird doesnt = scummy. Also the very fact that he bothered to formulate a read on everyone(except me and DP in the game at that point of time shows that he cares
- Why the fuck is he continuosly asking marv/Ace about their read on him? Normally Palmar declares himself as town and that's it. Everyone who disagrees is bad/scum.Because it helps his read on them? Ace and marv are good players and im pretty sure Palmar respects them and their opinion
- "Pushes" Ace lynch with reasoning that points Ace being more likely town than scum (rofl).No, he said that Ace does this shit in town games too, thats why he couldnt 100% think he was scum. Its fundamentally different.
- Doesn't even try to figure out if Ace is scum/town when he is unsure of him.Yeah possible, BUT Ace was not being nice. No one really tried to 'figure' out except maybe prp
- Switches to Axle when there is a lot of people who are likely to vote for Axle over Ace. No reasoning, read Axle's filter in 3 minutes and suddenly Axle goes from looking good -> maybe scum.
He can read and tab back and post? Um he doesnt need to be gone from the thread to read?. also it went from 17% to 32%, hardly a big jump. I agree with marv's argument about this actually, if Palmar is scum, he wouldve definitely tried to look like he wanted to lynch Axle at that point of time.

No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 10 2013 15:18 GMT
#1586
On April 11 2013 00:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 11 2013 00:12 prplhz wrote:
how about the first point, i'm pretty sure i could point out more than nothing in palmar's filter that shows that he has given shit about anything this game.

What has Palmar done other than sheeped marv?

well just to mention one thing (which disproves you "nothing" hypothesis), he voted for and pushed axle when him and marv were on ace and marv was pushing ace hard.

I already pointed out it was pretty clear that time that me & you were more in favor of lynching Axle rather than Ace. Ace would have voted for Axle over himself (obviously). A good player like Palmar as scum would see there is pretty much no way of saving Axle at that point.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 10 2013 15:29 GMT
#1587
On April 11 2013 00:03 iamperfection wrote:
its either WaveofShadow or prplhz imo


probably yeah.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 10 2013 15:29 GMT
#1588
or oats
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 10 2013 15:30 GMT
#1589
@rayn assume for a second I'm not the last scum. Let's just say I've had a shit game. Now tell me who is scum.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 10 2013 15:34 GMT
#1590
On April 11 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well I was gonna wait for Palmar to answer, but since you asked,
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Point out where am i wrong in this:
TLDR;
- There is nothing in Palmar's play that shows that he has given shit about anything in this game.

- His strange "i'll give reads about all the people" is really uncharacteristic for him, usually he pushes his strongest scumread and tries to convince other people to lynch that guy.
weird doesnt = scummy. Also the very fact that he bothered to formulate a read on everyone(except me and DP in the game at that point of time shows that he cares
Did you look at the reads? They are full of nothing. Does Palmar in you opinion usually give reads on everyone as town?

- Why the fuck is he continuosly asking marv/Ace about their read on him? Normally Palmar declares himself as town and that's it. Everyone who disagrees is bad/scum.Because it helps his read on them? Ace and marv are good players and im pretty sure Palmar respects them and their opinion
Do you think Palmar usually does that MULTIPLE TIMES? From what i know he could say "marv if you don't see me as town by now you are scum or bad"

- "Pushes" Ace lynch with reasoning that points Ace being more likely town than scum (rofl).No, he said that Ace does this shit in town games too, thats why he couldnt 100% think he was scum. Its fundamentally different.
He said "If I hadn't seen Ace be a useless shit at town before I'd call him scum, but I'm not sure". How is this a good reasoning for lynching someone? Especially when Palmar usually thinks bad =/= scummy.
- Doesn't even try to figure out if Ace is scum/town when he is unsure of him.Yeah possible, BUT Ace was not being nice. No one really tried to 'figure' out except maybe prp
That's what bothered me about Ace lynch. I actually thought marv was more likely to be a Ace-lyncher because of his "kill Ace and if i'm wrong you can kill me tomorrow" comment. Ace not being nice does not give anyone a free pass to just lynch him without reasoning why he is scum.

- Switches to Axle when there is a lot of people who are likely to vote for Axle over Ace. No reasoning, read Axle's filter in 3 minutes and suddenly Axle goes from looking good -> maybe scum.
He can read and tab back and post? Um he doesnt need to be gone from the thread to read?. also it went from 17% to 32%, hardly a big jump. I agree with marv's argument about this actually, if Palmar is scum, he wouldve definitely tried to look like he wanted to lynch Axle at that point of time.
The point is WHY Palmar had a town read on Axle in the first place, and WHY did his town read suddenly become a scumread? He gave no reasons for it.


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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 10 2013 15:34 GMT
#1591
On April 11 2013 00:30 Palmar wrote:
@rayn assume for a second I'm not the last scum. Let's just say I've had a shit game. Now tell me who is scum.

I think prpl is town.

WoS 60% - Oats 40%.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
April 10 2013 15:35 GMT
#1592
I think looking at Prplz>oats>Wos or something in that order

But I am going to read some filters and decide who i like better for the lynch.

I need to read oats last scum game also.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 10 2013 15:36 GMT
#1593
Palmar:

Can you give your thoughts on these questions:
On April 10 2013 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I read WoS / Tunkeg filters again and i'm strating to have doubts on WoS..
Palmar do you think Tunkeg (and Axle) would push WoS they way they did if they were the scumteam?

On April 10 2013 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why would Oats say me / prplhz are both town in his opinion if he was scum?
I mean he is leaving no room for himself and you can't just count on iamp/Palmar/DP mislynchin THREE times in a row.

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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2013 15:37 GMT
#1594
WoS just seems crazy considering that both his scum buddies pushed him even though tunkeg pretty much didn't have to and axle could do whatever the hell he wanted since he was acting crazy anyway. he also ended up being the last vote for one of them. like marv said, lets consider someone else first.

@iamp are you the vig? dp seemed to think so.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
April 10 2013 15:38 GMT
#1595
On April 11 2013 00:37 prplhz wrote:
WoS just seems crazy considering that both his scum buddies pushed him even though tunkeg pretty much didn't have to and axle could do whatever the hell he wanted since he was acting crazy anyway. he also ended up being the last vote for one of them. like marv said, lets consider someone else first.

@iamp are you the vig? dp seemed to think so.

im speechless
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2013 15:40 GMT
#1596
On April 11 2013 00:38 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 00:37 prplhz wrote:
WoS just seems crazy considering that both his scum buddies pushed him even though tunkeg pretty much didn't have to and axle could do whatever the hell he wanted since he was acting crazy anyway. he also ended up being the last vote for one of them. like marv said, lets consider someone else first.

@iamp are you the vig? dp seemed to think so.

im speechless

you? hardly
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 10 2013 15:43 GMT
#1597
Oats:
- Switches to Axle when there is a lot of people who are likely to vote for Axle over Ace. No reasoning, read Axle's filter in 3 minutes and suddenly Axle goes from looking good -> maybe scum.
He can read and tab back and post? Um he doesnt need to be gone from the thread to read?. also it went from 17% to 32%, hardly a big jump. I agree with marv's argument about this actually, if Palmar is scum, he wouldve definitely tried to look like he wanted to lynch Axle at that point of time.

Where does marv say this?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 10 2013 15:43 GMT
#1598
On April 11 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats:
Show nested quote +
- Switches to Axle when there is a lot of people who are likely to vote for Axle over Ace. No reasoning, read Axle's filter in 3 minutes and suddenly Axle goes from looking good -> maybe scum.
He can read and tab back and post? Um he doesnt need to be gone from the thread to read?. also it went from 17% to 32%, hardly a big jump. I agree with marv's argument about this actually, if Palmar is scum, he wouldve definitely tried to look like he wanted to lynch Axle at that point of time.

Where does marv say this?

He says that in reference to HIMSELF. Im applying that logic to Palmar as well
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
April 10 2013 15:53 GMT
#1599
i cant believe your being serious prplhz. I refuse.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2013 15:54 GMT
#1600


and

you're*
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