On April 10 2013 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:This is how Palmar starts the game:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 05 2013 08:58 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 08:55 sciberbia wrote:
Hi everyone! I can't wait to get started. This player list is awesome.
I say we lynch you on day one. How would you like that?
##Vote sciberbia Not likely uncharacteristic to him, but then, the follow up is this:
- He is more concerned about marv's read on him than pushing his lynch.
- The only thing he is trying to figure out anything about anyone is when he asks Oats/iamp about sci. No follow up.
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Then he comes in with this post:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 00:20 Palmar wrote:honestly:
marv: strange things, but seems to be at least trying. I don't think I'll push for his day 1 lynch, but it's annoying that he doesn't just start saying shit that matters and maybe be more useful. I've noted to self/thread twice that he has said things I would not entirely expect of him, but neither makes him definite scum.
see here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168¤tpage=6#119and here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168¤tpage=13#257Ace: complete and utter null, he's a good lynch but doesn't need to be discussed until we're closing in on the lynch. If we default to a lurker from where we are now it's a toss-up between him and Tunkeg, and I think I'd rather kill Ace. Nothing in Ace's filter says anything about his alignment (good or bad).
iamperfection: I really don't know, he seemed genuinely mad that I'm poking him, but his ridiculous zeal in what is essentially a perfectly safe lurker lynch still raises some bells for me. I don't know really.
sciberbia: made a generic post and hasn't said anything ever since. I might be willing to lynch this guy based on what has happened in the game so far and if I had to make a decision right now.
Tunkeg: lurker, nothing to say.
Axlegreaser: I can't read these kind of people, so i'll mostly leave it to others. I'd say leaning town, but honestly I'm terrible at telling what strange posters are up to, I ignore Chez every game I play with him, and while Axle is more coherent than that, I really don't know.
prplhz: being his useless self on day 1. He did reach the same conclusion about iamperfection's push on Ace, and he did it before me, I think.
DP: NOT READING YOUR POSTS LOL
reyn: I don't know this guy well enough yet, so I'll just paint him tentative town right now for calling me bad. he's spamming in a very useless way. But at least he's spamming
Oats: NOT READING YOUR SHIT EITHER
WoS: his last post
here was slightly more townie than everything else he's said. He too is not a bad day 1 lynch I think. I need to hear more from this guy and I know literally nothing about him. His "glad I rolled town" seems sooo fake, but then again, it's so awful that it's hard to think mafia would be stupid enough to do it. Whatever, leaning scum, I guess...
This is very uncharacteristic from Palmar. Every read ends with "i don't know" or "whatever, i guess scum". Normally Palmar pushes his early D1 read hard and want's other people's opinions about it. Here he is throwing out a list of "meh" reads.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 19:30 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Sciberbia
I think this is the direction I want to go in.
After ~20 hours and a couple of useless posts that say nothing he goes back to this.
When Tunkeg asked for reasoning, he says this:
-"I really don't think it's reasonable to push oats at the moment." Cool, Palmar's opinion about Oats is "
Oats: NOT READING YOUR SHIT EITHER". So it's not reasonable to question a player you are not even reading.
- "Also sciberbia has a few of those indirect question things I don't really like, I mentioned it in my first post against him, this validation seeking thing." Yeah, Palmar thinks sciberbia is the best lynch at the moment. Funny, because he hasn't interacted with sciberbia even once. He only asked iamp/Oats about him. Yeah, Oats, whose posts he is not even reading...
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The he votes for WoS, but after that tells marv he thinks sciberbia is a better candidate.
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Back to sciberbia with "something about his defense of WoS just looks strange to me".
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Some voteswitching between Ace / sciberbia with nothing new.
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Here's when the fun starts. Palmar votes for Ace:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 05:12 Palmar wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Ace
Okay let's do this.
(1)Also if we lynch him he's a liar and we must lynch all liars, since he said this town wouldn't lynch a veteran player.
(2)And finally there are multiple things I find strange about him, just nothing I can say is conclusively scummy. But he is focusing on silly secret tactics, not giving much opinion on who to lynch or trying to push his lynch. He is not attempting to take any kind of a leadership role, and wanting to rather just weigh in here and there.
(3)If I hadn't seen Ace be a useless shit at town before I'd call him scum, but I'm not sure.
whatever #yolo let's kill ace.
1) This is ridiculous reasoning.
2) Multiple strange things
that are not conclusively scummy.
3) Says Ace plays like this as town.
After this he isn't interested in what Ace says. He just wants people to vote for Ace.
After this some people say they think Ace is town and start a lynch on Axle.
This is the votecount atm:
sciberbia (1): raynpelikoneet
WaveofShadow (3): Tunkeg, prplhz, AxleGreaser
marvellosity (1): Ace
Ace (4): marvellosity, WaveofShadow, Oatsmaster, Palmar
AxleGreaser (3): DarthPunk, sciberbia, iamperfection
Then marv asks Palmar's opinion on Ace. Palmar does not give opinion about Ace but instead:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 08:36 Palmar wrote:
I don't want to lynch Axle, if that's the alternative.
Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 08:36 Palmar wrote:
He looks good marv, I really don't know. can we lynch the host since I have a town read on everyone? What do you say Axle?
Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 08:38 Palmar wrote:
to clarify, by good I mean less bad than he used to.
and since I have no clue who is scum whatever.
I just want to lynch someone and I don't want it to be axle.
Sciberbia, Ace, prplhz, reyn, WoS, marv are all fine by me.
- Axle looks good, can lynch into the list of some random people.
- Next thing he does is he narrows the list to Ace/scib.
After this post me & prplhz clearly imply that we are supporting Axle lynch over Ace. prplhz even asks Palmar why does he not want to lynch Axle. Ace is sure going to vote for Axle over himself anyways.
Then Palmar just switches his vote on Axle:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 08:48 Palmar wrote:
I think you can possibly be scum, I think everyone else there except marv is more likely to flip.
But okay, mostly because I cannot stay up tonight I need to wake up tomorrow, let's just lynch Axle. At least it rids me of a person that I don't know how to read. I'd give this lynch about 17% chance of success.
##unvote
##vote AxleGreaser
"I don't care, let's just lynch someone".
Then there is this masterpiece:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 08:56 Palmar wrote:
man I just read Axle's filter, maybe he is scum. Increased chances of success to around 32%
No reasoning why Axle might be scum now. Also note that Palmar has doubleposted 3 minutes before this post. THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY HE READ THE FILTER IN 3 MINUTES! Ffs Axle's post were really hard to read, it took me 3 minutes to read one post of his.
TLDR;- There is nothing in Palmar's play that shows that he has given shit about anything in this game.
- His strange "i'll give reads about all the people" is really uncharacteristic for him, usually he pushes his strongest scumread and tries to convince other people to lynch that guy.
- Why the fuck is he continuosly asking marv/Ace about their read on him? Normally Palmar declares himself as town and that's it. Everyone who disagrees is bad/scum.
- "Pushes" Ace lynch with reasoning that points Ace being more likely town than scum (rofl).
- Doesn't even try to figure out if Ace is scum/town when he is unsure of him.
- Switches to Axle when there is a lot of people who are likely to vote for Axle over Ace. No reasoning, read Axle's filter in 3 minutes and suddenly Axle goes from looking good -> maybe scum.
Cool story bro. Lynch Palmar D3.