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On April 07 2013 15:31 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 15:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 07 2013 15:10 sciberbia wrote:
marv has seen me play a lot, and I don't think my play this game has been that different from other games where I've been town. Marv should know that I like posting fluffy setup stuff as town, and overall I think he should be able to read me as town, or at the very least not have a scumread. But I suppose it's possible we both just overestimate each other and that he is impatient and doesn't think like me.
Even before the wagon on me, I was leaning scum on marv based on some things earlier in the game. I think there's a decent chance he's scum.What?
Is this like the 'You should BE ABLE TO SEE THAT I AM TOWN', scumtell thing? Cause thats is absolute bullshit and inaccurate. Do you have ANY REASONS why marv is scum? or are you just bullshitting? The one above ISNT. Yes I just explained one significant reason I have for thinking marv is scum. He has a lot of scum motivation for trying to get me lynched on Palmar's wagon. I would expect a town marv to have more reservations about lynching me for fear of losing a town scib. He had almost no reasons for voting me, and the one original reason he provided was very bad imo. I just explained this.
Why are you even pulling a comment from a past QT? I said explicitly in this game how I view your abilities. The fact is that for whatever reason you disagreed with my reasoning on you which was essentially Palmar's reasoning. I just didn't fluff mine out because Palmar had done so already.
Just to repeat, you spent half a very long analysis post defending someone who was under attack from one person, and attacked someone else who I thought and still think is clearly a bad lynch. In doing so, you completely ignored WoS who had been under some suspicion, and who may yet still be mafia. I didn't / do not understand why you devoted so much of that post to talking about someone quite townie in iamp rather than talking about someone much more controversial in WoS, who you left until much later. This not-talking-about WoS, in conjunction with the long (in my opinion kinda weird) post on iamp and Oats, gave me more the feeling of that mini you rolled mafia, where the primary determinant of seeing you as mafia is that although your posts looked ok, you seemed pretty disconnected with the thread, whereas as town you're much more in the thick of things. At any rate, even though it took ~48 hours, you now ARE more in the thick of things (even if it is with suspicion of me) and so I'm backing down from thinking you're a good lynch right now.
In any case, if a scum-marv wanted to get you lynched, dear, I'd make sure I did so in a pretty airtight fashion. Literally every single vote I ever cast as mafia is backed up by "rock solid" reasoning, to prevent stuff like *this* happening to me. What's happening right here happens to me when I'm town; e.g. Personality I was attacked for throwing votes around Day 1, e.g. "##vote: Stutters. let's see how this goes" Or in Fruity mafia a mafia Toad spent his entire time alive (until i had him killed) trying to discredit me for a vote I put on him which had very little reasoning other than "yeah i agree with sand". Anyone with any passing familiarity with my scumplay should know I never look bad for my votes. It's just basic stuff.
I was feeling pretty good about this game yesterday afternoon because Palmar had the same two reads I had with basically the same reasoning. Except I fleshed out why I found WoS scummier and Palmar ended up on my wagon, and Palmar fleshed out why he found sciberbia scummier and I ended up on his wagon, but I'm mafia? If nothing else this is monumentally inconsistent and confusing.
Going back to the Oats thing, no I don't find DP suspicious for attacking Oats because like I mentioned before I hold you in a higher regard than him, and I hold you in a significantly higher regard than a town-Ace, who couldn't make a good read if he was in a fucking library. Since I started playing here a year ago, I've only ever seen town-Ace champion town lynches or get mislynched himself. He's awful as town.
For some reason people don't seem to care that Ace is highly inconsistent with himself starting from about last night. He tells us that there is no good reason for unvoting WaveofShadow, and then concedes that his posts felt genuine - so... this is a good reason to unvote WaveofShadow. He also says "this" - I don't know what "this" is - was the reason that Ace "unvoted" him. Ace never had his vote on him. A small mistake perhaps, but in The Game Ace almost led a blatantly town VE to the gallows for "lying". I said yesterday at some point that I couldn't really read Ace as mafia because he didn't seem to be pushing any agenda; I can't say that now.
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So any thoughts on the random votes that were placed on you marv?
Also Im up for lynching
Sci
DP
Ace
(everyone who attacked me basically, looks like my hypothesis was wrong huh marv)
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sci looks better, DP looks stupid, Ace looks bad.
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This is not so good :/
Mostly I can find townreads.
Yeah, this game I have like 2 strong ones.
And a lotta nulls.
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I'm contemplating whether I can actually put something together against Ace, because his scum and town metas are both "push townies with bad reasoning". Not sure yet.
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LoL so you don't look scummy as scum is your argument essentially? Wow that makes me feel heaps better dude. LOL.
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Wow, you take a tiny bit of my post and ignore the rest? LOL YOU ARE SO AWESOME.
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On April 07 2013 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
Wow, you take a tiny bit of my post and ignore the rest? LOL YOU ARE SO AWESOME.
That was the major point defending yourself. The rest was justification of your questionable actions. Essentially the argument against the scummiest things against you (no reasons for votes, no original case, rephrasing palmar etc) is that you wouldn't do that as scum.
I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game.
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On April 07 2013 20:59 DarthPunk wrote:
LoL so you don't look scummy as scum is your argument essentially? Wow that makes me feel heaps better dude. LOL.
Do you read ANY OF MARVS SCUM GAMES?
He survived to endgame in hero
He had to get vigged in Themed for him to die, just before endgame.
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On April 07 2013 21:03 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 21:00 marvellosity wrote:
Wow, you take a tiny bit of my post and ignore the rest? LOL YOU ARE SO AWESOME. That was the major point defending yourself. The rest was justification of your questionable actions. Essentially the argument against the scummiest things against you (no reasons for votes, no original case, rephrasing palmar etc) is that you wouldn't do that as scum. I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game.
It wasn't the major point at all. I was explaining myself to sciberbia so he could understand my thought process. the bit about my past games was just some context. Learn to read.
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On April 07 2013 21:03 DarthPunk wrote:
I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game.
Then what do you want to do if you dont feel like talking to anyone?
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On April 07 2013 21:05 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 21:03 DarthPunk wrote:
I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game. Then what do you want to do if you dont feel like talking to anyone?
Go to bed?
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On April 07 2013 21:08 marvellosity wrote:
Off you toddle then.
Sure thing scummer! or I will stick around. My decision after all.
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On April 07 2013 21:05 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 21:03 DarthPunk wrote:
I am not going to engage with you buddy. I am trying not to get into Flame wars this game. Then what do you want to do if you dont feel like talking to anyone?
Also I was talking to you and tunkeg before.
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Think in your head why I've responded to sciberbia on this and not you. Because you're totally irrational and incapable of reading, whereas sciberbia is not.
The very fact that you broke my post down to the response you gave basically shows you're incapable of critical thought.
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The very essence of whatever case there is supposedly on me is "I didn't write enough to explain my sciberbia read" which is just so silly I can't even communicate properly how silly it is.
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On April 07 2013 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
Think in your head why I've responded to sciberbia on this and not you. Because you're totally irrational and incapable of reading, whereas sciberbia is not.
The very fact that you broke my post down to the response you gave basically shows you're incapable of critical thought.
No I just know that you can rationalise anything and make it seem reasonable. Disagreeing with you does not make me an idiot despite you trying to create that myth.
I am quite content in my ability to think critically thanks.
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I see. You're going to confirmation bias this read to the end of time. Glad to hear it mate.
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On April 07 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:
I see. You're going to confirmation bias this read to the end of time. Glad to hear it mate.
And you are going to try and discredit your detractors until the end of time. I understand. That is playing to your win condition. Too bad you are scum.
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