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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 06 2013 23:19 GMT
#661
huh..yeah..no.. ;E
table for two on a tv tray
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
April 06 2013 23:22 GMT
#662
it goes against all my principals but i may be willing to lynch rayn just so i dont have to see him post anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk jk
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 06 2013 23:25 GMT
#663
hi iamp <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 06 2013 23:28 GMT
#664
On April 07 2013 08:22 iamperfection wrote:
it goes against all my principals but i may be willing to lynch rayn just so i dont have to see him post anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk jk

Who do you want to lynch for real? Or is it me?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
April 06 2013 23:31 GMT
#665
On April 07 2013 08:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 08:22 iamperfection wrote:
it goes against all my principals but i may be willing to lynch rayn just so i dont have to see him post anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk jk

Who do you want to lynch for real? Or is it me?

see this is part of the problem if you cant tell who i want to lynch for real i simply don't get you.

CAN YOU READ

i just said prplhz
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#666
##Unvote

Based on his response to a traumatic near death experience I don't think we should lynch WoS today.

##Vote sciberbia

I am going back to my initial read. I want to add in that something about his defense of WoS just looks strange to me.
Computer says mafia
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 06 2013 23:36 GMT
#667
There is no solid reason for lynching sciberbia. Unvoting WoS makes no sense here.

Wos where did you claim?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 06 2013 23:37 GMT
#668
On April 07 2013 08:36 Ace wrote:
There is no solid reason for lynching sciberbia. Unvoting WoS makes no sense here.

Wos where did you claim?

Why is WoS a better lynch than sci?
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 06 2013 23:37 GMT
#669
On April 07 2013 07:18 Palmar wrote:
@Ace just to clarify, by distraction you mean scum right? Or do you simply want to lynch Oats for being an asshole?


both. I honestly think he will lessen the Town's chances of winning if kept around so he's Scum at best and Town at worst. In light of no better suspects imo outside of WoS (waiting to show me his claim) he is the best option.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
April 06 2013 23:39 GMT
#670
it pretty clear that wos didn't claim anything ace
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 06 2013 23:40 GMT
#671
Okay, i want to kill Ace...
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 06 2013 23:40 GMT
#672
On April 07 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 08:36 Ace wrote:
There is no solid reason for lynching sciberbia. Unvoting WoS makes no sense here.

Wos where did you claim?

Why is WoS a better lynch than sci?



We've already pointed out WoS's day 1 behavior with his vote on me that he really didn't support even though it was when marv joke voted for me. Sciberbia summed it up pretty well, which is actually the reason a lynch on him doesn't make sense. He's actually moving the thread forward and trying to figure shit out (or putting up a great act in doing so). Unless I can see some rock solid analysis on him which currently doesn't exist I'm not hopping on that wagon.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 06 2013 23:40 GMT
#673
On April 07 2013 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
it pretty clear that wos didn't claim anything ace


shhhh....
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 06 2013 23:41 GMT
#674
On April 07 2013 08:37 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 07:18 Palmar wrote:
@Ace just to clarify, by distraction you mean scum right? Or do you simply want to lynch Oats for being an asshole?


both. I honestly think he will lessen the Town's chances of winning if kept around so he's Scum at best and Town at worst. In light of no better suspects imo outside of WoS (waiting to show me his claim) he is the best option.

"yo hey show me.. i don't wanna do shit to solve this game".
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
April 06 2013 23:41 GMT
#675
I don't know how you approach a situation Ace, but I generally assume most players are somewhat naive and straightforward until I know better, as I explained earlier, it requires some basic thread comprehension skills to pull what WoS pulled when under heavy pressure. He may be getting advice from someone of course, or he may just be a better player than expected, but for now I think the simple explanation is that WoS isn't scum and his reaction was genuine.

So yes, it makes absolute sense to unvote WoS given the information I have.
Computer says mafia
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 06 2013 23:42 GMT
#676
mods when does Day end?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
April 06 2013 23:43 GMT
#677
it has no end ace
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
April 06 2013 23:44 GMT
#678
goddammit. Just had a nice post typed out and my computer crashed. I will summarize



I still don't think WoS is scum. His death posts felt fine and a few recent lines in his filter just feel genuine to me:
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
I could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me?

On April 07 2013 03:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 02:27 prplhz wrote:
##Vote WaveofShadow

busy might post more later. palmar and marv both on this one so it's probably good. skimmed tunkeg's case and it looked alright though i didn't really get all of it.

When I die, look here.

On April 06 2013 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
I still have a lot of trouble with the idea that there are people we can just 'let do their thing' and if anyone actually suspects them before that point it's scummy. I can't see myself ever getting used to that idea.

On April 07 2013 03:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Personally all the business with Oats/DP/iamp/whoever just seems to me like townies going at townies. DP seems very town to me sepcifically.
In this game I think scum are much more likely to be in the lurky category. Prplhz and Ace/Axle?



Tunkeg's case didnt' do much for me. Some of his points weren't scumtells (paragraph 1) and others were misrepresenting what happened in the thread (paragraphs 2,3,4).

My only gripe with WoS is his generally low activity before he had like 6 votes but overall I'm still thinking town and I wouldn't be happy lynching him today.


prplh'z vote on WoS reminded me of his unabashed pile-on onto Forumite D1 in Dwarf Mini. He still has hardly done anything and I'd be alright with lynching him today. But seeing as we have no time limit, I'd still like to hear more from him before hanging him.

@marv
I was confused by your refusal to lynch prplhz today, because the only two games I've read with you and prplhz on D1 (Dwarf Mini and that game you were mayor), prplhz played similarly to this game, you voted him, and he was scum. What's different about this game that makes him a bad lynch?


Palmar, not getting lynched today is one of my top priorities, so I'd be interested in having some discussion with you and hopefully help you see the light. What do you want me to address?

Also I think I owe Axle an answer to something. Going back through his filter now.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 06 2013 23:45 GMT
#679
On April 07 2013 08:41 Palmar wrote:
I don't know how you approach a situation Ace, but I generally assume most players are somewhat naive and straightforward until I know better, as I explained earlier, it requires some basic thread comprehension skills to pull what WoS pulled when under heavy pressure. He may be getting advice from someone of course, or he may just be a better player than expected, but for now I think the simple explanation is that WoS isn't scum and his reaction was genuine.

So yes, it makes absolute sense to unvote WoS given the information I have.


I also believe it's possible it really was a genuine reaction. Which is why I unvoted him and asked him that question to confirm my reasoning.

However, where does the sciberbia vote come from? Can you explain that? If you believe that WoS is playing straightforward, then based on the information you have - why isn't sciberbia being afforded the same courtesy? Nothing in his play so far seem out of the ordinary so what stands out to you that warrants a vote?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 06 2013 23:45 GMT
#680
On April 07 2013 08:36 Ace wrote:
There is no solid reason for lynching sciberbia. Unvoting WoS makes no sense here.

Wos where did you claim?


Unlike Oats, who is "scum at best, town is worst"? Super solid reason you have there, Ace.

I'm with Palmar on this one. And your irrational opposition to the lynch while championing an equally irrational lynch makes me feel better about it too.

You're telling us/town it makes no sense to unvote WoS, but you've never actually had your vote on him yourself. If you're so sure, why weren't you hammering his wagon?

#paranoia
#yolo
#willlookatthegamewhilenotundertheinfluencetomorrow

##Vote: sciberbia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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