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So I will leave for the evening now.
I will leave you with this. Lynch WoS. Why?
- His entry into thread is just total bullshit. He claims town, he tries to engage in a meaningless discussion with sci about optimal townplay, and last and most important he votes for Ace in a horrible way. Two first parts of his post looks to me like he is just trying to be active, last part looks like he is trying to join a bandwagon with absolute crap reason.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time.
Scib, is there no limit in this game as to how long a cycle lasts? If so I could see extending the day being a benefit to town but it really depends on the activity level in general.
And Palmar one entry-post example does not a meta-case make.
I'll go with marv on this one: I hear scum Ace is terrifying and last game he was town we wasted a lot of time on him and mislynched him in the end anyway.
##Vote: Ace
- He is softpushing a target that have mention him as one of his scumreads. He does this by trying to make other take stances on him, perhaps to make them be the wagonpushers? By the end it looks like rayn is his main target but he refuses to push for him, he sticks with Ace. Very strange to me.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far?
I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. On April 05 2013 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn's filter is now 3 pages long and it is 3 hours into the game. This is inexcusable in my opinion, as is his constant inane shitposting. From this point forward unless he changes his methodology I will hereby be ignoring any and all 'contributions' he has made. I'm not sure what other people's opinions are regarding him but I really don't feel like entertaining this kind of baseless annoying bullshit, so discuss with him and give him a forum if you must but I will take no part in it.
DP, welcome to the thread. You've mentioned you have no reads thus far; I can appreciate that. Anything to add at all regarding Ace? On April 06 2013 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Thanks Oats. And while I have mentioned I don't want to entertain rayn in any way, my desire to assist the town by forming coherent reads on me trumps my dislike for him. Plus it's technically answering a question from marv anyway. The first half of Rayn's ridiculous filter where he talks about how scummy I am is literally him saying "LOOK AT HOW SCUMMY HE IS DID YOU JUST READ HIS POST HERP DERP" without even offering any explanation of his own. I don't know in what world people seem to think spamming of that sort is actually useful or town-aligned in any way, but whatever. Like, he switches from scib to me to iamp and back to me to Axle AND THEN BACK TO ME in the span of 3 hours and offers no proper explanation for ANY of those switches. Clearly he doesn't expect us to take him seriously, but that in itself isn't exactly town-aligned---as town you want your votes and reasoning to be heard and recognized as scumhunting, not seen as useless spam. The second half of his filter is him picking a line or two from my posts and saying "THIS IS SCUMMY, HEY EGO MM PLAYER #XX, WHAT DO YOU THINK?" Useless, shitposting, means nothing once again. With that rationale anyone can take any line from anyone's filter, point it out and ask someone better than them what they think and call that scumhunting. This is the best thing Rayn has posted to date: Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 20:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time. There is no need to say this. This doesn't say shit. Scib, is there no limit in this game as to how long a cycle lasts? If so I could see extending the day being a benefit to town but it really depends on the activity level in general. General information, doesn't say anything. And Palmar one entry-post example does not a meta-case make.
I'll go with marv on this one: I hear scum Ace is terrifying and last game he was town we wasted a lot of time on him and mislynched him in the end anyway.
##Vote: Ace First he is saying he's going with marv. So he is voting for Ace because marv is voting for Ace? Another "reason" for Ace vote is "because Ace is scary as scum". roflskates. So we should kill every strong player because if they are scum they are scary? If this is a pressure vote it's like the worst pressure vote i have ever seen because the reasons are so terrible. WoS is not even taking responsibility from his own vote, as he is just "sheeping marv". Other than that his posts are about me "shitposting". Yes i might have not reasoned why i think some people are scum, but at least i am telling i think some people are scum. And i think you are one. His reasoning where he compares himself to me at the end is laughable since as I pointed out earlier his earlier scumreads are based on literally NOTHING. This is the only 'case' of any real substance he has posted thus far so having the balls to call someone scum means absolutely nothing to me coming from him. As far as his reasoning to why I'm scummy for voting Ace? I stand by it. I have been told that Ace is one of those players who you're apparently supposed to just kill if he's still alive at some point. Ok, maybe this doesn't mean we kill him D1 but it does mean that if he is scum, as a fairly new player who has barely played with Ace I should be afraid of him. As far as Rayn suggesting that I'm saying we kill every strong player because if they're scum they are scary, I don't say that anywhere, but it does seem to be the rationale on which some later lynches on strong players are based. Maybe Rayn should look up the people he's playing with a little. As far as sheeping Marv goes, good for you, Rayn, you pointed out what I already pointed out. Want a cookie? Basing a scumread he has pushed so crazily on 3 posts 3 hours into D1 is not a strong scumread by any means and it just shows Rayn's ability to critically think essentially amounts to him reading some sort of 'Scum for Dummies' guide, pointing out some seemingly obvious tells and frantically screaming at everyone else to look at his seemingly obvious tells he pointed out. I'm not going to go so far as OMGUS on Rayn because I as well find it really difficult to believe scum would play this awfully, but I guess we'll see if a more coherent Rayn enters the thread. I am not concerned by his 'scumread' of me in the slightest, but I am more concerned by others,' however. Marv why is it you said you wanted to kill me based on Rayn's posts?
- He proceeds to skip his entire attempted wagon on rayn and goes straight for prplhz. Again he attempts to get a wagon rolling, but ends up not voting for him after no one jumps on the wagon.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Since no mention has been given to him so far, I have a scumread on prplhz.
His filter is entirely opportunistic one-liners where he offers nothing concrete in terms of scumreads, he literally poses a random question then disappears for a while. This does not constitute scumhunting to me. On April 06 2013 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 02:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 06 2013 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Since no mention has been given to him so far, I have a scumread on prplhz.
His filter is entirely opportunistic one-liners where he offers nothing concrete in terms of scumreads, he literally poses a random question then disappears for a while. This does not constitute scumhunting to me. Thats what he does as either alignment dear. You gotta have something more than that  I've never played with prplhz before so I didn't know that. So in these other games he plays, does he ever do anything useful or is this how he decides to play the game and people just leave him alone? On April 06 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 06:53 Ace wrote:
I don't think anything prp has done tells us of his alignment or gets us anywhere right now. I think the two issues at hand are WoS being the only serious person on my wagon after the random joke votes stopped, and Oats' posting.
Are you worried or something? Iamp's wasn't a random joke vote either. If you're going to start saying something then come out and say it; what about me being the only person on your 'wagon' concerns you, and what about Oats' posting concerns you specifically? And Marv as to me drawing any conclusions, I don't have any right now but I find it suspect that two people both manage to look wrongly into my posting in the exact same way. It's not even like my filter was particularly hard to read or anything; I had 3 POSTS at the time. I didn't change my vote or mention lynching at all in regards to Rayn, he just took it and went: "HE WANTS TO KILL ME HE MUST BE SCUM!!!!" One more thing regarding prplhz that I wanted to mention in case anyone finds it interesting: of all of his one liners manage to be soft defenses (except for maybe the last posts regarding Axle). Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:45 prplhz wrote:On April 05 2013 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay kill WoS and iamp ok? no mention of the guy you are currently voting for? Soft defense of Axle. Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:36 prplhz wrote:
@iamperfection don't you think you're being a little overzealous here? Soft defense of Ace. Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:59 prplhz wrote:On April 05 2013 11:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time.
Scib, is there no limit in this game as to how long a cycle lasts? If so I could see extending the day being a benefit to town but it really depends on the activity level in general.
And Palmar one entry-post example does not a meta-case make.
I'll go with marv on this one: I hear scum Ace is terrifying and last game he was town we wasted a lot of time on him and mislynched him in the end anyway.
##Vote: Ace He is voting for Ace because if Ace is scum he is scary... Does it make him scum? What more do you need?? isn't marv doing the exact same thing? Soft defense of me. Soft defenses rub me the wrong way. I'm assuming by the vote and what can now barely be constituted as pressure that Axle is prplhz's primary scumread but I'd really like to know why.
-His cop out retreat from voting Ace. Claiming his vote was half assed, and only there to produce pressure. But why on earth would he keep his vote on him for that long, and defending his stance on it, after all the pressure votes and joke votes had gone?? His excuse to why he voted Ace in the first place rubs me in the wrong way.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 09:07 sciberbia wrote:@WoS I don't know if you missed my last post, but.. First of all, as a point of fact, rayn didn't misinterpret your post in the same way Axle did. You posted this, where you ask Axle if he thinks rayn is worth paying attention to. + Show Spoiler +On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far?
I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. And rayn summarised your post as 'asking Axle if we should kill rayn', which I think is a fair (although exaggerated) summary.
Moving on, On April 06 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Are you worried or something? Iamp's wasn't a random joke vote either. If you're going to start saying something then come out and say it; what about me being the only person on your 'wagon' concerns you, and what about Oats' posting concerns you specifically?
Your stance on Ace is confusing. Maybe you could communicate it better. First, marv made a troll vote on Ace. You jumped on the bandwaggon and voted Ace. How serious was this vote? Clearly it's not THAT serious because you are talking a lot about prplhz and rayn and not pushing an ace lynch. On the other hand, it is clearly at least somewhat serious because you said you stand by it. But if it's somewhat serious, why did you say "I'm with marv on this one" when it was clear marv was just trolling? Do you really think a policy lynch of Ace is in town's best interests? I'm confused. Help me out here. I didn't miss your last post. If that's Rayn's summary of my post it's terrible because I specifically state that I don't want to pay him any mind, I just wanted to hear Axle's opinion of him, which I (sort of) got. How that = lynch I have no idea but you seem to think is somewhat justified. Whatever. As for Ace, fine, you caught me I suppose. Not the most serious vote around but I must say considering all the reverence people seem to show him it does scare me that we haven't seen anything useful from him yet and people are willing to let him go under the pretense of 'joke pressure.' I guess though it may not make sense to consider policy lynching him as I've heard suggested before if I haven't seen him at work myself. A half-serious vote you can call it I guess, but since iamp/marv left I can't hope to generate any more discussion or anything from Ace himself, it seems. ##Unvote: AceI could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me?
- In the end he proceed to post more nothingness, and even some snide remarks about rayn. He have since been MIA, and haven't even come back to defend himself, even though by now USA should be waking up.
This is the guy to lynch today. I give you the Tunkeg guarantee that he is scum.
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On April 07 2013 01:02 marvellosity wrote:
Hey Axle. You were extremely active and townie in the game you just got nightkilled Night 1 in.
Here you're far more absent and sporadic. Any particular reason?
yeah some... How many would you like...
Its 2:22 here so here is brain dump... stop reading if you get bored.
"extremely active?"
it was 3 pages in 48 hrs http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=404818&user=290296&user=290296
This is less yes.
In noir i had 3 days before the game to read everyones meta... so I walked in pre armed.
In noir, the actual game dynamic left a bunch of other players on one wagon and not saying lot.
In this game, Marv and Palmar and Ace are playing in the other game they were not.
That changes the dynamics, aka the context of the game.
For instance I would question why prplhz has vote parked on me and no other active interest...
but apparently AFAIK that is not relevant today. In the last game there was no one that
could say that that I would have listened to.
I now have a better understanding of the random bullshit phase.
I was interested, in seeing which people felt guilty enough, that as the thread wound down
they needed to go on justifying themselves.
This one I signed up went to be woke up and the game had already started...
The lack of 48hr D1 deadline means I didn't see the need to hurry.
During the 24hr period when I didn't post,
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18206825
I was specifically interested in watching Scrib WoS and Rayn
if nothing else, if they were the candidates (I know you say you like Rayn I am not sure why)
I thought it would be easiest for the towny ones to float to the top, if there were not a bunch of
people prodding at them.
I feel I have less to prove now in terms of actual competence. I was specifically trying to acquire
a meta for being able analyse and observe stuff.
Finally house guest.
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On April 07 2013 01:06 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:On April 07 2013 01:01 DarthPunk wrote:On April 07 2013 00:59 marvellosity wrote:
Oats isn't scum. You don't get to just say that marv. You are wrong all the time. So give me something other than that. It is insulting at the very least that I have put in a lot of time writing a strong case on a scummy player that you get to shut it down with three words. Wrong a lot less than you sweetie. I already talked about Oats in my filter and nothing's changed as far as I'm concerned. This is a bullshit argument. It doesn't matter who is wrong more. You need to provide a new argument when new evidence is available. You are wrong enough that you can't act like everything you say is fact without providing anything. Which is something I do not do.
Except he's town
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On April 07 2013 01:37 Tunkeg wrote:
This is the guy to lynch today. I give you the Tunkeg guarantee that he is scum.
Good enough for me. And I'm not even kidding.
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On April 07 2013 01:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 07 2013 00:57 iamperfection wrote:
oats want to kill axle? I dont read his posts. But Im not feeling the same activity in Noir. Convince me. DP what does a themed game have to do with your meta? You brush it away by saying. ITS WRONG OHH ITS WRONG.
Point it out for me since im clearly a 'dumbass'/scum please? You haven't even provided anything in terms of a meta analysis for me to provide you with a counter example of how it is wrong. You said my 'jovial posts are different' You have played one game with me in which I replaced in and it was a themed game. I do not have to explain why this is different. It is . If you do not understand why that is you are an idiot and shouldn't use meta. You have not played with me enough to read me with meta. Even if you had played with me enough nobody correctly reads me with meta aside from keir, who has recently misread me with meta also. Now you are asking me to provide arguments against a meta analysis WHICH DOES NOT EXIST. I am done talking to you for this game unless you are somehow ever confirmed town at all (doubtful) Night all!
I said that your jovial style of posting is SIMILAR to personality rather than THE GAME.
like these posts
PERSONALITY
On March 15 2013 02:20 DarthPunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 15 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote:Marv is like a huge fat cancer on your dick, you really love your dick and wish the best to him, and you are happy that it looks so big now, and the cancer grows and grows but you don't realize that one night you will die to it. It will kill you. You thought that it was fine that your dick kept growing, and the cancer didn't even look ugly so you leave it where it is. And there are doctors who tell you : "You have to cut that cancer off" and the cancer tells you : "If you kill me you will lose your dick let's kill those people who want you to lose your dick, let's kill the best doctor around cause he will push people to cut your dick" And all the while you don't realize that you and your dick will survive if you remove the cancer, but the cancer is too strong and looks like it's helping your dick, so you keep the cancer around even though it doesn't stop growing when you tell it to. All of this ending in the best dick surgeon of the country dying to an angry mob who wants to keep their dick. + Show Spoiler +Also he refuses to look into Acrofales after saying he found him odd without pointing exactly out what and ignoring my request to expand. So he has no interest into looking into Acrofales actually, they're probably scum together and marv set himself up for later. Best. Thing. EVAR. lololol
Generally he doesnt crack jokes in personality
THE On March 17 2013 22:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2013 14:14 Wade Fell wrote:
why does everyone in this game and last game think I have like this massive ego
I just _happen_ to always be right, it doesn't mean I have a big head about it LOL I know for a fact that you are wrong quite often. <3
On March 17 2013 23:15 DarthPunk wrote:
Righty-O off to bed. I had friends over today which is why I was useless. I'll be on in the morning to tear it up.
On March 19 2013 09:34 DarthPunk wrote:Unfortunately for SAST Viscera Eyes is scum. ##Burn SAST with Fire
So more jokey and stuff.
Here.
Ego Mini
On April 05 2013 11:39 DarthPunk wrote:
LOL. Such a spammy game already. I am here but I don't have any reads yet. Carry on.
On April 05 2013 12:17 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 12:13 marvellosity wrote:On April 05 2013 12:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:jnfsakklnfsaklnfsalnk I hear scum Ace is terrifying and last game he was town we wasted a lot of time on him and mislynched him in the end anyway. how do you read this? Mostly I read this as the fact that DarthPunk isn't WaveofShadow LOL.
This is like IT.
Also he said he was ignoring my posts in personality and in here. Although for slightly different reasons. I think its still weird though
I dont see how its a very complicated meta read.
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On April 07 2013 01:37 Tunkeg wrote:So I will leave for the evening now. I will leave you with this. Lynch WoS. Why? - His entry into thread is just total bullshit. He claims town, he tries to engage in a meaningless discussion with sci about optimal townplay, and last and most important he votes for Ace in a horrible way. Two first parts of his post looks to me like he is just trying to be active, last part looks like he is trying to join a bandwagon with absolute crap reason. + Show Spoiler +On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time.
Scib, is there no limit in this game as to how long a cycle lasts? If so I could see extending the day being a benefit to town but it really depends on the activity level in general.
And Palmar one entry-post example does not a meta-case make.
I'll go with marv on this one: I hear scum Ace is terrifying and last game he was town we wasted a lot of time on him and mislynched him in the end anyway.
##Vote: Ace - He is softpushing a target that have mention him as one of his scumreads. He does this by trying to make other take stances on him, perhaps to make them be the wagonpushers? By the end it looks like rayn is his main target but he refuses to push for him, he sticks with Ace. Very strange to me. + Show Spoiler +On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far?
I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. On April 05 2013 12:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn's filter is now 3 pages long and it is 3 hours into the game. This is inexcusable in my opinion, as is his constant inane shitposting. From this point forward unless he changes his methodology I will hereby be ignoring any and all 'contributions' he has made. I'm not sure what other people's opinions are regarding him but I really don't feel like entertaining this kind of baseless annoying bullshit, so discuss with him and give him a forum if you must but I will take no part in it.
DP, welcome to the thread. You've mentioned you have no reads thus far; I can appreciate that. Anything to add at all regarding Ace? On April 06 2013 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Thanks Oats. And while I have mentioned I don't want to entertain rayn in any way, my desire to assist the town by forming coherent reads on me trumps my dislike for him. Plus it's technically answering a question from marv anyway. The first half of Rayn's ridiculous filter where he talks about how scummy I am is literally him saying "LOOK AT HOW SCUMMY HE IS DID YOU JUST READ HIS POST HERP DERP" without even offering any explanation of his own. I don't know in what world people seem to think spamming of that sort is actually useful or town-aligned in any way, but whatever. Like, he switches from scib to me to iamp and back to me to Axle AND THEN BACK TO ME in the span of 3 hours and offers no proper explanation for ANY of those switches. Clearly he doesn't expect us to take him seriously, but that in itself isn't exactly town-aligned---as town you want your votes and reasoning to be heard and recognized as scumhunting, not seen as useless spam. The second half of his filter is him picking a line or two from my posts and saying "THIS IS SCUMMY, HEY EGO MM PLAYER #XX, WHAT DO YOU THINK?" Useless, shitposting, means nothing once again. With that rationale anyone can take any line from anyone's filter, point it out and ask someone better than them what they think and call that scumhunting. This is the best thing Rayn has posted to date: Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 20:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time. There is no need to say this. This doesn't say shit. Scib, is there no limit in this game as to how long a cycle lasts? If so I could see extending the day being a benefit to town but it really depends on the activity level in general. General information, doesn't say anything. And Palmar one entry-post example does not a meta-case make.
I'll go with marv on this one: I hear scum Ace is terrifying and last game he was town we wasted a lot of time on him and mislynched him in the end anyway.
##Vote: Ace First he is saying he's going with marv. So he is voting for Ace because marv is voting for Ace? Another "reason" for Ace vote is "because Ace is scary as scum". roflskates. So we should kill every strong player because if they are scum they are scary? If this is a pressure vote it's like the worst pressure vote i have ever seen because the reasons are so terrible. WoS is not even taking responsibility from his own vote, as he is just "sheeping marv". Other than that his posts are about me "shitposting". Yes i might have not reasoned why i think some people are scum, but at least i am telling i think some people are scum. And i think you are one. His reasoning where he compares himself to me at the end is laughable since as I pointed out earlier his earlier scumreads are based on literally NOTHING. This is the only 'case' of any real substance he has posted thus far so having the balls to call someone scum means absolutely nothing to me coming from him. As far as his reasoning to why I'm scummy for voting Ace? I stand by it. I have been told that Ace is one of those players who you're apparently supposed to just kill if he's still alive at some point. Ok, maybe this doesn't mean we kill him D1 but it does mean that if he is scum, as a fairly new player who has barely played with Ace I should be afraid of him. As far as Rayn suggesting that I'm saying we kill every strong player because if they're scum they are scary, I don't say that anywhere, but it does seem to be the rationale on which some later lynches on strong players are based. Maybe Rayn should look up the people he's playing with a little. As far as sheeping Marv goes, good for you, Rayn, you pointed out what I already pointed out. Want a cookie? Basing a scumread he has pushed so crazily on 3 posts 3 hours into D1 is not a strong scumread by any means and it just shows Rayn's ability to critically think essentially amounts to him reading some sort of 'Scum for Dummies' guide, pointing out some seemingly obvious tells and frantically screaming at everyone else to look at his seemingly obvious tells he pointed out. I'm not going to go so far as OMGUS on Rayn because I as well find it really difficult to believe scum would play this awfully, but I guess we'll see if a more coherent Rayn enters the thread. I am not concerned by his 'scumread' of me in the slightest, but I am more concerned by others,' however. Marv why is it you said you wanted to kill me based on Rayn's posts? - He proceeds to skip his entire attempted wagon on rayn and goes straight for prplhz. Again he attempts to get a wagon rolling, but ends up not voting for him after no one jumps on the wagon. + Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Since no mention has been given to him so far, I have a scumread on prplhz.
His filter is entirely opportunistic one-liners where he offers nothing concrete in terms of scumreads, he literally poses a random question then disappears for a while. This does not constitute scumhunting to me. On April 06 2013 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 02:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 06 2013 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Since no mention has been given to him so far, I have a scumread on prplhz.
His filter is entirely opportunistic one-liners where he offers nothing concrete in terms of scumreads, he literally poses a random question then disappears for a while. This does not constitute scumhunting to me. Thats what he does as either alignment dear. You gotta have something more than that I've never played with prplhz before so I didn't know that. So in these other games he plays, does he ever do anything useful or is this how he decides to play the game and people just leave him alone? On April 06 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 06:53 Ace wrote:
I don't think anything prp has done tells us of his alignment or gets us anywhere right now. I think the two issues at hand are WoS being the only serious person on my wagon after the random joke votes stopped, and Oats' posting.
Are you worried or something? Iamp's wasn't a random joke vote either. If you're going to start saying something then come out and say it; what about me being the only person on your 'wagon' concerns you, and what about Oats' posting concerns you specifically? And Marv as to me drawing any conclusions, I don't have any right now but I find it suspect that two people both manage to look wrongly into my posting in the exact same way. It's not even like my filter was particularly hard to read or anything; I had 3 POSTS at the time. I didn't change my vote or mention lynching at all in regards to Rayn, he just took it and went: "HE WANTS TO KILL ME HE MUST BE SCUM!!!!" One more thing regarding prplhz that I wanted to mention in case anyone finds it interesting: of all of his one liners manage to be soft defenses (except for maybe the last posts regarding Axle). Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:45 prplhz wrote:On April 05 2013 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay kill WoS and iamp ok? no mention of the guy you are currently voting for? Soft defense of Axle. Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:36 prplhz wrote:
@iamperfection don't you think you're being a little overzealous here? Soft defense of Ace. Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:59 prplhz wrote:On April 05 2013 11:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Phew. Real happy I rolled town this time around; I feel really bad for whoever is on my scumteam when I roll mafia for the first time.
Scib, is there no limit in this game as to how long a cycle lasts? If so I could see extending the day being a benefit to town but it really depends on the activity level in general.
And Palmar one entry-post example does not a meta-case make.
I'll go with marv on this one: I hear scum Ace is terrifying and last game he was town we wasted a lot of time on him and mislynched him in the end anyway.
##Vote: Ace He is voting for Ace because if Ace is scum he is scary... Does it make him scum? What more do you need?? isn't marv doing the exact same thing? Soft defense of me. Soft defenses rub me the wrong way. I'm assuming by the vote and what can now barely be constituted as pressure that Axle is prplhz's primary scumread but I'd really like to know why. -His cop out retreat from voting Ace. Claiming his vote was half assed, and only there to produce pressure. But why on earth would he keep his vote on him for that long, and defending his stance on it, after all the pressure votes and joke votes had gone?? His excuse to why he voted Ace in the first place rubs me in the wrong way. + Show Spoiler +On April 06 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 09:07 sciberbia wrote:@WoS I don't know if you missed my last post, but.. First of all, as a point of fact, rayn didn't misinterpret your post in the same way Axle did. You posted this, where you ask Axle if he thinks rayn is worth paying attention to. + Show Spoiler +On April 05 2013 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey Axle, if you're still around, what do you make of rayn flitting about the thread thus far?
I liken him unto a chicken without a head, spraying blood and entrails wherever his dying nervous system directs him. Personally I am loathe to pay him any more mind than this but it would be nice to get a fresh opinion on the matter before partaking of other more worldly pursuits. And rayn summarised your post as 'asking Axle if we should kill rayn', which I think is a fair (although exaggerated) summary.
Moving on, On April 06 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Are you worried or something? Iamp's wasn't a random joke vote either. If you're going to start saying something then come out and say it; what about me being the only person on your 'wagon' concerns you, and what about Oats' posting concerns you specifically?
Your stance on Ace is confusing. Maybe you could communicate it better. First, marv made a troll vote on Ace. You jumped on the bandwaggon and voted Ace. How serious was this vote? Clearly it's not THAT serious because you are talking a lot about prplhz and rayn and not pushing an ace lynch. On the other hand, it is clearly at least somewhat serious because you said you stand by it. But if it's somewhat serious, why did you say "I'm with marv on this one" when it was clear marv was just trolling? Do you really think a policy lynch of Ace is in town's best interests? I'm confused. Help me out here. I didn't miss your last post. If that's Rayn's summary of my post it's terrible because I specifically state that I don't want to pay him any mind, I just wanted to hear Axle's opinion of him, which I (sort of) got. How that = lynch I have no idea but you seem to think is somewhat justified. Whatever. As for Ace, fine, you caught me I suppose. Not the most serious vote around but I must say considering all the reverence people seem to show him it does scare me that we haven't seen anything useful from him yet and people are willing to let him go under the pretense of 'joke pressure.' I guess though it may not make sense to consider policy lynching him as I've heard suggested before if I haven't seen him at work myself. A half-serious vote you can call it I guess, but since iamp/marv left I can't hope to generate any more discussion or anything from Ace himself, it seems. ##Unvote: AceI could vote prplhz, but how can I be sure that isn't just his 'typical play' as Oats previously told me? - In the end he proceed to post more nothingness, and even some snide remarks about rayn. He have since been MIA, and haven't even come back to defend himself, even though by now USA should be waking up. This is the guy to lynch today. I give you the Tunkeg guarantee that he is scum.
Are you still town on Scib?
If so, why?
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On April 07 2013 01:42 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 01:02 marvellosity wrote:
Hey Axle. You were extremely active and townie in the game you just got nightkilled Night 1 in.
Here you're far more absent and sporadic. Any particular reason? yeah some... How many would you like... Its 2:22 here so here is brain dump... stop reading if you get bored. "extremely active?" it was 3 pages in 48 hrs http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=404818&user=290296&user=290296This is less yes. In noir i had 3 days before the game to read everyones meta... so I walked in pre armed. In noir, the actual game dynamic left a bunch of other players on one wagon and not saying lot. In this game, Marv and Palmar and Ace are playing in the other game they were not. That changes the dynamics, aka the context of the game. For instance I would question why prplhz has vote parked on me and no other active interest... but apparently AFAIK that is not relevant today. In the last game there was no one that could say that that I would have listened to. I now have a better understanding of the random bullshit phase. I was interested, in seeing which people felt guilty enough, that as the thread wound down they needed to go on justifying themselves. This one I signed up went to be woke up and the game had already started... The lack of 48hr D1 deadline means I didn't see the need to hurry. During the 24hr period when I didn't post, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18206825I was specifically interested in watching Scrib WoS and Rayn if nothing else, if they were the candidates (I know you say you like Rayn I am not sure why) I thought it would be easiest for the towny ones to float to the top, if there were not a bunch of people prodding at them. I feel I have less to prove now in terms of actual competence. I was specifically trying to acquire a meta for being able analyse and observe stuff. Finally house guest.
Who do you want to lynch?
Reasons please.
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You have to bear in mind, Axle, that your activity concerns me, because it was the easiest way to catch you as mafia in LIX.
Probably you're disappearing now or very soon, which means for the first 48 hours of this game I'm not quite sure where to put you, and I don't like that.
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okay tunkeg, I'm willing to roll with this.
##Unvote
##Vote WaveOfShadow
To be honest most of my reservations lynching him have simply been how many people called him out, sciberbia seems like the harder lynch.
But ok, let's do this, murder him.
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Votecount:
sciberbia (3): Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, AxleGreaser
WaveofShadow (3): Tunkeg, marvellosity, Palmar
AxleGreaser (1): prplhz
Oatsmaster (1): DarthPunk
prplhz (1): iamperfection
Not voting (3): sciberbia, Ace, WaveofShadow
7 votes needed to lynch.
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On April 07 2013 02:00 Palmar wrote:
okay tunkeg, I'm willing to roll with this.
##Unvote
##Vote WaveOfShadow
To be honest most of my reservations lynching him have simply been how many people called him out, sciberbia seems like the harder lynch.
But ok, let's do this, murder him.
They're both looking pretty tough to me right now >.<
I kinda just want someone to die and flip really.
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@axlegreaser don't use other players as an excuse to not post in a game, that's stupid.
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WoS I feel is really coinflippy.
Like his filter is newb town/scummy.
Im leaning newb town though.
Seems similar to other games.
1st time scum players dont have metas similar to their town meta(at least for me)
Also Sciberia is pushing him
Vote for Oatsmaster
means LYNCHING SCIBERIA.
I trust I have your full cooperation.
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His filter in this game isn't similar to his other games at all.
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And sciberbia is calling him town. Can you read at all?
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On April 07 2013 02:16 marvellosity wrote:
And sciberbia is calling him town. Can you read at all?
nope I cant apparently.
Playing dota and mafia not conducive apparently
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On April 07 2013 02:15 marvellosity wrote:
His filter in this game isn't similar to his other games at all.
YOU CAN SHOW ME THE WORLD
(or in this case, difference in meta )
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Kindly do one at a time instead of just talking bullshit.
Thank you for YOUR continued cooperation.
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On April 07 2013 02:18 marvellosity wrote:
Kindly do one at a time instead of just talking bullshit.
Thank you for YOUR continued cooperation.
I thought you liked it :/ 
</3
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In LX and especially The Game, he was active, involved, and in the thick of things. He made conversation about all kinds of things, volunteering information and his thought process left, right, and centre.
This game he's bitched at rayn repeatedly without ever calling him mafia, he called prplhz mafia, totally recanted it, and then put suspicion on him anyway, and... and... uh, yeah, that's it.
I don't understand what similarities you think you're drawing.
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