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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 09 2013 23:36 GMT
#728
On April 10 2013 08:34 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 08:33 marvellosity wrote:
VOTE COUNT:


TheRavensname (2) Obzy, Rainbows, Obzy

Rainbows (1) Smancer, TheRavensName, warent

jrkirby (3) JarJarDrinks, nobodywonder, Smancer, Obzy

JarJarDrinks (1) Obzy jrkirby

Moloch (1) Smancer, TheRavensName, Obzy

Fishgle (1) Fishgle

Not Voting: Warent, Moloch

Deadline is in just under half an hour. Voting is mandatory.

Currently jrkirby is set to be lynched!

If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.



I changed to rainbows again.

You also have Warent listed as not voting and Voting for Rainbows.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 09 2013 23:40 GMT
#740
On April 10 2013 08:36 Rainbows wrote:
Lie 2 isnt a lie. bad town i dont consider a read because its noncomittal as fuck.

Everyone in the thread has called me scum, of course all of my votes will seem

Please lynch Raven.

You didn't vote for the two people you said you actually had scum reads on...
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 09 2013 23:48 GMT
#761
Alright well, deadline is soon, and I posted my thoughts against rainbows like he asked... and he just blows it off again so whatever, I'm done for today. Sorry in advanced JRK sense everyone seems to be having second thoughts about you, must mean I was right to like you at the start.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 10 2013 11:53 GMT
#832
Can't say I'm surprised JRK pulled green, he was lynched off another stupid case. Serriously, that case JJD pushed was STUPID and based off of only one real point. I tried to bring that up and it got burried so fuck it.

And yea I'm going to agree with Warent: all Rainbows just successfully did was blue fish; yet I'm the one who gets a random switch at the end of the lynch (The hell is that guys? Don't even have a reason behind it. Just Fuck it why not?)

Now I woke up late and have to head to school so, I'll be back later. (I dislike posting at night and have nothing to add against Rainbows that hasn't already been stated, and I get called scum when looking for other leads so I don't see the point.)
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 10 2013 17:43 GMT
#839
On April 11 2013 00:48 Obzy wrote:
Another wonderfully active night. Outstanding. I guess Warent is posting.
+ Show Spoiler +
I really, really hope I get shot tonight. If I don't, I might land a protect on somebody and the scumteam will require an additional mislynch to win, so they had better gift me this.


Warent, entirely hypothetically, what if in my -imaginary- -luck shot- -guess- scumteam prediction you were replaced with Rainbows?

And the number of blue roles, yes, is unknown to all players, but I feel it's a safe assumption that it's either 2 or 3, and we could all have safely assumed that at the beginning of the game.

This post has me curious enough to go against my opinion of night posts: Why would you want to? I mean its cool that you want to join me and War with going against Rainbows... but why? I mean...Look at his filter, its only two tabs long, making it the second shortest besides Jarjar's and Sarafs (Who is dead.). All he has done is (No offense, just stating something) is attack rainbows with almost no retaliation from people, at least compared to the amount I seem to be getting. Doesn't that seem, just a little bit odd to you?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 10 2013 17:56 GMT
#842
On April 11 2013 02:47 Obzy wrote:
So then, to start things off tomorrow since I don't expect to be here, I'd like to propose a Jarjar lynch. The primary thing he did this game was push kirby. Other than that, he gave me and Rainbows townreads (okay), and Warent and Ravens scumreads (okay w/e). He's basically still lurking and hasn't pitched in to the major conversations. And nobody else is talking so fuck it I'll just quietly go insane for the next 6 hours before I ideally get executed and then can stop worrying about town 's lack of activity and just quietly watch games. Does anybody have any thoughts on a Jarjar lynch? Cases, if we specifically shouldn't, etc.

I see Ravens just posted - It definitely does, but really, I have no idea who's who. I could say "I think it's these 3" and then afk until I die, or I could at least TRY to promote thought. If he says his scum reads are similar to mine then (or vice-versa), it implies that he is accepting of Jarjar and Smancer lynches. Who would you remove from that equation to lynch Rain with, or would you change it up entirely?

Not too sure. I got basically two combinations in my head: Both involve Warance and Smancer, simply because Someone has to be pushing the lynch. The only flaw with this is the way Rainbows has been playing, i'm more inclined to believe that hes with Warance and just ignoring him and focusing on me; with the way the kills and lynches have gone down Its easily pushable towards me. Plus I mean, Warant and Rainbows have gotten away with basically wasting their votes both lynches. So the team would be Warant, Smancer, Rainbows.

If Rainbows isn't with warant, then I would say Warant, Smancer, and Jarjar... but i find it hard to just drop all my opinions on rainbows like that. Maybe thats the confirmation bias I seem to have written up. But it would give a reason to get rid of people supporting rainbows, making him look guilty, or killing people to make rainbows look right by WIFOM.

I find the idea of Warant, Rainbows, and Jarjar unlikely to be together, because then they are managing to do so much with no one pushing a lynch, and I think there has to be atleast one somewhere... right?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 10 2013 17:58 GMT
#843
On April 11 2013 02:53 Obzy wrote:
Ravens, you posting at night would be a godsend for the game, + Show Spoiler +
not for me specifically because I rather want to die, but
if you were night killed instead of one of my townreads I would be rather thrilled and feel more confident. If Rainbows were night killed I'd be ecstatic. Anything that removes questionables from the equation is a positive thing for town.

Up until this point, you've seemed to be agreeing with Warent because he wants to kill Rain - and now you mention that his filter's short and he's been tunneling Rain only. Why has this not been a problem until I bring up questioning how he would react to killing Rain instead of himself?

I didn't even realize he voted for Rain day one actually. Maybe because no one seems to be jumping at it like they are jumping on me? It wasn't until you mentioned it mixed with the vote switch I started to think about it, basically everyones case against me is I'm tunneling rainbows, but warant hasn't done much else either when you look at it.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 10 2013 18:14 GMT
#845
On April 11 2013 02:53 Obzy wrote:
[+ Show Spoiler +
not for me specifically because I rather want to die, but
if you were night killed instead of one of my townreads I would be rather thrilled and feel more confident. If Rainbows were night killed I'd be ecstatic. Anything that removes questionables from the equation is a positive thing for town.

You know as well as I do that killing anything that makes it simpler for the town is not going to happen. + Show Spoiler +
Especially not when you pulled a Rainbows. WHY DIDN'T YOU WAIT TILL TOMORROW DAMN IT?!
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 10 2013 18:21 GMT
#849
On April 11 2013 03:13 Obzy wrote:
Interesting. How would you to propose to defend Jarjar, then? If Warent, Smancer, and Rain are scum, that is. Jarjar basically tunneled Kirby with a few extra reads; if he had been tunneling Rain futilely instead, I'd think they'd occupy a similar niche.

And I did some work for a bit and then re-imagined Rain winning as scum and my vision went red so despite my post yesterday I'm open to lynching Rain largely out of potential spite. Do you think that Smancer looks objectively scummy, or is it just that he has been pushing incorrect lynches? I'd identified him through process of elimination, he has been a very difficult read for me.
Jarjar? No fucking clue. Hes only a few post behind Warant and at least he did someting thattook a risk yesterday I guess? Best I can come up with, but I'm not trying very had.
Well, when it come to Smancer, I guess I rushed when I just tossed him in, largely based off that last mnute vote switch and then actually swithcing back unlike Moloch.. Everything I said could apply to Moloch too, as they both distanced a little bit, but Smancer cared enough about his image to swich back. Fish, I don't have this extra piece of evidence so I have a more null read on him as opposed to the other two.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 10 2013 19:15 GMT
#855
Hmmm... That last fact is the most interesting, seeing as the others just say we apparently all like to vote with the same people, unless your a rebel like Moloch. Time to read far too much into the Jarjar thing as I am want to do.

Also, how can an opinion be guaranteed?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 10 2013 19:57 GMT
#857
On April 11 2013 04:44 Obzy wrote:
Picky, picky, picky.

It will be guaranteed when I die tonight, then. If you have been legitimately reading me as non-town to a point that you think my opinions are not town opinions, you are mafia, horrible, or insane.

Warent, I like that piece of information quite a bit - that JarJar's voters are dead. I don't really know why you'd specifically point out that JarJar and nobodywonder have voted on mislynches twice in a row - I mean, so did Smancer, Fish, and myself. Assuming your assumption is correct; Smancer obviously is my pick for the scum on jampi's wagon.

Eh, me throw this in as impossibiltiy hes on a scum team with rainbows and jarjar, but not that hes with smancer and rainbows. Makes Jarjar and NW look bad while forgetting about smancers.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 11 2013 11:38 GMT
#905
Wow, Rainbows went from not wanting to play to wanting to prolong the game? And all it took was Obzy dieing.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 11 2013 12:11 GMT
#906
On April 11 2013 14:01 Warent wrote:
Obzy claim did not make sense from a town perspective. Why? He just gave up the doctor. How the hell is that town motivated?

I provided reason why it wasn't a terrible move from a scum perspective.

Simple as that.

Then this whole day so far is very out of character for you. Quick question since your the guy here who analyzes EVERYTHING from a scum perspective... want to analyze the No lynch vote with no real debate first motivations by rainbows or should I just do that for you?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 11 2013 12:46 GMT
#909
On April 11 2013 21:20 Warent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 21:11 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 11 2013 14:01 Warent wrote:
Obzy claim did not make sense from a town perspective. Why? He just gave up the doctor. How the hell is that town motivated?

I provided reason why it wasn't a terrible move from a scum perspective.

Simple as that.

Then this whole day so far is very out of character for you. Quick question since your the guy here who analyzes EVERYTHING from a scum perspective... want to analyze the No lynch vote with no real debate first motivations by rainbows or should I just do that for you?


Analyzing things from different perspectives can be useful. I think Rainbow did it as a joke (?), not sure though. Molochs reasoning made sense. If you have an analyzis you are obviously welcome to provide it.

Well put it this way, sense I'll take your job from you the downside of a no lynch is if we pass it, we went from being up 2 votes, to only being up one vote. This would make a quick last minute mass switch tomorrow far too easy. For this reason, I think we should at least discuss it.

As to why Rainbows would want to all of a sudden play: He lost Obzy, and out of the 7 people left (Not counting himself or scumbuddies) The only person who has publically stated a favorable opinion of him is Smancer and maybe Moloch (I don't remember seeing it, but I don't not either). Combined with the earlier mentioning of how a no vote today COULD hurt town, and you have motivation for Rainbows to purpose the No lynch from a scum perspective. He would only have to convince at most one person of his claim as opposed to two.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 11 2013 16:20 GMT
#917
So just curious Rainbows, because I don't like how you and Warrant both acted out of character today, and I'm trying to draw some opinion between the two of you that makes my brain hurt: Why the sudden interest in playing now that Obzy is dead?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 11 2013 16:32 GMT
#920
On April 12 2013 01:25 Rainbows wrote:
Because Obzy led the horses to water. Someone has to make them drink.

Hmmm, Thats certianly food for thought, one would argue you should have been helping round them up so they could be led. We all know you are capable of that.

Well this is probably my last post for today, I got mandatory school functions ontop of classes I have to attend before I take a quiz, draw up a resume, and salvage some kind of grade out of my paper,so...I will see you all tomorrow after my classes around about noon EST. Please do not say mean things behind my back, or I will be very sad.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 11 2013 16:39 GMT
#923
Very well Mr Rainbows. I don't like how War got away without much scrutiney for the same things I was doing, I don't like how he was acting Last night and didn't scrutinize something that has morepotential scum motivations then that bad medic claim,ut, and I don't like how hes posted so little and hasn't at least pushed something like NW or JarJar did, so I will throw my vote onto him, and you are more then welcomed to tear it apart or get him to talk. Or whatever you want to do. I posted my thoughts on Rainbows already, and if I like what War has added and not what Rainbows has after lurking so long, I will swap around.
##Vote: Warent
Good hunting Gentlemen.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 11 2013 22:11 GMT
#945
Yea warent, I saw how short your filter was for basically pushing rainbows with me with no backlash compard to me. I didn,t like that; felt like maybe if you were scum you could set me up and get rainbows at the dame time. I rwally hated how you reacted to obzys medic claim; its obvious anyone who claimed med night phase would end up dead if they wernt scum seemed like maybe it was a distancing attempt and then you went from wearing a tinfoil hat to accepting a no lynch without any consequences. Added up this casted you in enough of a bad light for me to vote for you to see how people would react and what analysis people would make if any... and I got nothing for it outside a decent read off smancer; this lynch is so far too easy, even if everyone hasn't showed up yet.##unvote
##vote:Rainbows I'm not posting a case; it would be a repeat of everything I said so far.. I will only add that rainbows basically bluefished our medic, started the no lynch thing then hopped off it without trying to defend it, and only decided to care when the one person who liked him died. Now my chinese food is done, I may post again while I eat if anyone is around but then I got to go for a bit like I said earlier.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 12 2013 03:38 GMT
#950
Yay its time for Rainbow's classic defense: I don't have to defend myself outside of call everyone who votes for me scum! A classic!
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 12 2013 03:48 GMT
#951
I'm really disapointed, I finish my paper enough that I can at least stomach to read it and am willing to just edit the changes base on feedback, I finish my quiz, get all my school stuff done, and realize I don't need my resume till 5 PM tomorrow so I have plenty of time to finish it... and I come back to find nothing.

Smancer, you said you had three main things you wanted to focus on, and only really came up with the voting patern of jarjar and NW: Did you come up with anything else fun to discuss?
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