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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 02 2013 21:49 GMT
#281
here`s my question, considering people accuse me of being a hypocrite. Do you think I`m just trying to be disruptive or that I`m trying to save sylencia? It should be a minimum of one of those, right?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2013 21:51 GMT
#282
I feel like he got caught with his pants down trying to tiptoe around a risk.nuke lynch. He was indirectly supporting the risk.nuke wagon without adding his vote. Regardless of risk.nuke's alignment, that's a suspicious action out of Hopeless. If at the time he felt like risk.nuke was scum (which his whole association BS is supposing) then there's no reason for him to be indirectly supporting the wagon while trying to start a counter-wagon on someone else.

Furthermore he lied about it in the thread. Observe.

On April 03 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 01:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hopeless...

On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
##unvote: VE
##Vote: Risk.nuke

It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you?

Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument?

On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote:
VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant.

If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule?

No I don't.

Doesn't seem all that legit to me.



On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote:
Worst vote ever.


On the contrary, best vote ever.

I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal.

Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town.


At this point in time risk had 3 votes on him. You kinda threw some shit at him and called him scummy. What was your intention with this post?

I think risk is scummy but didn't want the day to end that soon. Also wanted to see if anyone agreed with my assessment of the supposed scumslip.

Ghor is annoying as all hell and his intentions behind voting sylencia do not match with his scum read on risk.nuke. He wants sylencia to commit to some type of a read on risk and when he refuses to do so, calls him scum for it. No where does he validate why this is scummy. Combine that with what appears to be a trolling smurf hellbent on behaving like a caveman, and I think he's a good choice for lynch.


On April 03 2013 01:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hopeless if you really felt that way your vote would be on risk.nuke. You're accusing Ghor of being risk's "scumbuddy" because he's not voting for risk. What the hell are you doing? Not voting for risk. You say Ghor is attacking Sylencia in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. What are you doing? Attacking Ghor in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. Your play is wholly and completely contradictory and scummy as sin. Do you have anything to say for yourself?

My vote on ghor was to get him to answer my bloody question about his stance on risk instead of directing me to his filter.

##Unvote: Ghor
##Vote: risk.nuke


When confronted about his vote on Ghor he says it was to get him to answer his question, but as you can see from the first post, he clearly says that he feels like Ghor should be considered for lynch today. Inconsistent. Scummy.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 02 2013 21:52 GMT
#283
STRONG COUNT



risk.nuke ( 2 ): Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, RebirthOfLeGenD, Hopeless1der
VisceraEyes ( 0 ): RebirthOfLeGenD
Sylencia ( 2 ): AxleGreaser, Ghor, Lazermonkey
Mr. Cheesecake ( 0 ): Sylencia
Ghor ( 0 ): Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der ( 2 ): VisceraEyes, risk.nuke

Not Voting ( 3 ): AxleGreaser, Mr. Cheesecake, Sylencia

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. This is instant majority lynch. If you see a mistake please notify us.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2013 21:55 GMT
#284
Hopeless who even said anything about you saving Sylencia? What are you talking about?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 21:57 GMT
#285
On April 03 2013 06:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
here`s my question, considering people accuse me of being a hypocrite. Do you think I`m just trying to be disruptive or that I`m trying to save sylencia? It should be a minimum of one of those, right?
I don't know. You being a hypocrite is actually not alignment indicative imo. What I do know is that you are calling out Ghor for stuff that you are doing yourself. So stop that.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 02 2013 21:59 GMT
#286
On April 03 2013 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel like he got caught with his pants down trying to tiptoe around a risk.nuke lynch. He was indirectly supporting the risk.nuke wagon without adding his vote. Regardless of risk.nuke's alignment, that's a suspicious action out of Hopeless. If at the time he felt like risk.nuke was scum (which his whole association BS is supposing) then there's no reason for him to be indirectly supporting the wagon while trying to start a counter-wagon on someone else.

Furthermore he lied about it in the thread. Observe.

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 03 2013 01:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hopeless...

On April 02 2013 10:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 02 2013 10:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 10:29 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
##unvote: VE
##Vote: Risk.nuke

It's like you brought up the Kenpachi rule just to see if someone else was willing to run with it and kill me. Wanting townies to do your work for you?

Why would I fake a perfectly legit argument?

On April 02 2013 09:50 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote:
VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant.

If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule?

No I don't.

Doesn't seem all that legit to me.



On April 02 2013 08:44 risk.nuke wrote:
On April 02 2013 08:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 02 2013 08:37 risk.nuke wrote:
Worst vote ever.


On the contrary, best vote ever.

I would argue that putting your vote on a townie is greatly suboptimal.

Also, scumslip in that he knows CC is town.


At this point in time risk had 3 votes on him. You kinda threw some shit at him and called him scummy. What was your intention with this post?

I think risk is scummy but didn't want the day to end that soon. Also wanted to see if anyone agreed with my assessment of the supposed scumslip.

Ghor is annoying as all hell and his intentions behind voting sylencia do not match with his scum read on risk.nuke. He wants sylencia to commit to some type of a read on risk and when he refuses to do so, calls him scum for it. No where does he validate why this is scummy. Combine that with what appears to be a trolling smurf hellbent on behaving like a caveman, and I think he's a good choice for lynch.


Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 01:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 03 2013 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hopeless if you really felt that way your vote would be on risk.nuke. You're accusing Ghor of being risk's "scumbuddy" because he's not voting for risk. What the hell are you doing? Not voting for risk. You say Ghor is attacking Sylencia in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. What are you doing? Attacking Ghor in lieu of pushing risk.nuke. Your play is wholly and completely contradictory and scummy as sin. Do you have anything to say for yourself?

My vote on ghor was to get him to answer my bloody question about his stance on risk instead of directing me to his filter.

##Unvote: Ghor
##Vote: risk.nuke


When confronted about his vote on Ghor he says it was to get him to answer his question, but as you can see from the first post, he clearly says that he feels like Ghor should be considered for lynch today. Inconsistent. Scummy.

I believe the scumteam is both ghor and risk.nuke. My vote came down as follows:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2013 00:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
ghor, do you think risk is scum?

On April 03 2013 00:18 Ghor wrote:
Ghor not understand why people ask questions about risk, people not read properly ghor posts?read thread then come back with good question please.

only update is ghor not think RoL that scummy any more, but not like initial play. now better.

risk talk about fluff after he say he not like doing content of his fluff (policy).
his defense, bad, he contradict.

On April 03 2013 00:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Vote: Ghor
Do you think risk.nuke is scum?


My vote was for the explicit purpose to get him to [answer the question, not because I thought he was scum (I thought he was scum but that was not the reason for voting him). Since then I've become more confident in my read.

You didn't catch me tiptoeing around anything. I directly supported a risk.nuke lynch, but neglected to vote in for him at the time. This was to ensure people didn't flip out and say OMG UNVOTE BEFORE HAMMER. Since then, I've developed a scum read on Ghor as well. I'm perfectly willing to swap back and forth between the two of them all day.
##Unvote: risk.nuke
##Vote: Ghor


Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 02 2013 22:01 GMT
#287
On April 03 2013 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hopeless who even said anything about you saving Sylencia? What are you talking about?

What do you believe my motive to be? Trying to put myself in your shoes, I'd suspect (Scum-Hopeless) of being disruptive and/or trying to save (Scum-Sylencia).

by the way, inherent in reading two people as scum is everyone else is town.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2013 22:03 GMT
#288
Well I have a town read on Ghor and a null read on risk.nuke, so that fact does little to convince me of your towniness. But whatever, make your case on Ghor if you think he should be lynched. Or make a case on risk.nuke. Do something to try and convince anyone of your reads if you're town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 02 2013 22:03 GMT
#289
Ughhh have to post on my lunch break.. :/ reading all the cases.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 02 2013 22:04 GMT
#290
RebirthOfLegend

When I wake up tomorrow you better have posted.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 22:09 GMT
#291
On April 03 2013 06:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel like he got caught with his pants down trying to tiptoe around a risk.nuke lynch. He was indirectly supporting the risk.nuke wagon without adding his vote. Regardless of risk.nuke's alignment, that's a suspicious action out of Hopeless. If at the time he felt like risk.nuke was scum (which his whole association BS is supposing) then there's no reason for him to be indirectly supporting the wagon while trying to start a counter-wagon on someone else.
isn't this like exactly what Ghor did? or am I missing something? You don't seem to think that he is scummy.

Your other point is quite good though,I must admit. But Syl looks far worse still.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 22:12 GMT
#292
EBWOP: And to clarify I don't actually agree with your first point!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2013 22:18 GMT
#293
Noted.

I'm rereading right now. I totally missed that Ghor had made a case on Sylencia. I'm gonna go read that part of the day in context and see what I see.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 02 2013 22:21 GMT
#294
Ill best leave my comments to where i can quote and read better.

First impressions are that i dont like the syl case atm. Peace out till after work.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 22:41 GMT
#295
I'm going to bed now! will be seeing you tomorrow...
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2013 22:54 GMT
#296
risk.nuke why have you disappeared? WHERE HAVE YOU GONE RISK.NUKE?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 02 2013 23:03 GMT
#297
I was just about to go to bed, I can't stay up to 6 a.m. every day. My classses start tomorrow. If you wan't to talk to me about something I can give you 30 minutes or so.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2013 23:03 GMT
#298
I can wait. Get sleep.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 02 2013 23:05 GMT
#299
Oh come'on what was it, I need to know now.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2013 23:07 GMT
#300
You never said what came of you looking over Sylencia. I'm curious if you ever got around to it and what you found.

Further, I'd like your thoughts on Lazermonkey.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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