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On April 07 2013 20:23 Mocsta wrote:

lol

man.. the whole incident which got kush recently bad.

he was in my scum team.. him and his mate; and proceeded to bus each other.. lol

Day1, 12hrs into the day, both of them were 1 vote each off majority - or something like that

On April 20 2013 12:23 geript wrote:

and that's abnormal how?

On April 21 2013 17:17 yamato77 wrote:
I'd kill you, too.

On April 21 2013 17:30 yamato77 wrote:
I have multiple large weapons at my disposal.

On April 21 2013 18:23 Vivax wrote:
Good morning.
Is it safe to assume scum didn't post yet?

On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:


I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today.

Discuss.

On April 21 2013 20:00 Palmar wrote:


There are two ways of looking at your post. First option is that you're town and legitimately think I'm scum. The second is you're scum and know I'm town and thus want to discredit me.

Since you didn't present any arguments to back up your conclusion, I am inclined to think you must be scum.

So until you present a believable motivation for your accusations...

##vote Oatsmaster

On April 21 2013 20:45 Vivax wrote:
I kinda feel sad that I said I would treat Oats as confirmed town :/ , I feel like doing the opposite now

On April 21 2013 21:51 Palmar wrote:


Do you have no intention of explaining your accusation?

On April 21 2013 23:22 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
How will you handle someone that denies every insight into his thoughts, posting random, baseless accusations, sarcastically admitting he's scum, and whom you won't be able to read?

Would you lynch such a person or not?

On April 21 2013 23:51 Palmar wrote:


pro-tip: there is a correct answer to my accusations against you.

So for the last time, do you not intend to give any explanation as to why you think I'm scum?

On April 22 2013 01:27 kushm4sta wrote:

Yes but it would be very difficult for scum to realize that TOWN had to look at the OP as well.
Scum would not say "oh shit I had to look at the OP" because they would have no idea if town ALSO had to look at the OP.

On April 22 2013 10:33 GiygaS wrote:

You being 'wrong' isn't really anything against you, I just figured I might as well add it in.

Actively trying to spread suspicion by stopping town reads is what scum wants to do. When I read it it seemed to me that you wanted to dissuade a town read.



Thanks kush, haha.

On April 22 2013 12:14 yamato77 wrote:

Suspicious activity has been detected in the vicinity of the Oats/CC/VE/BM area.

Proceed with caution.

On April 22 2013 13:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Mafia is a game about finding mafia not town + waiting on lurkers for more reads? How about you analyze whos already here.

Also still catching up but this is the single worst post ive seen to this point of reading

On April 22 2013 16:58 yamato77 wrote:
If you guys are lucky, I'll tell you who mafia is tomorrow.

By that I mean identify the whole team.

Or, at least, the 5 people I'm most suspicious of at that time.

On April 23 2013 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
You're asking me questions that I've already mostly answered...this looks like you're prodding for the sake of prodding and that's why I'm hesitant because it seems like a waste of time especially when Oats has returned and maybe we can get something from him.

All of these questions have essentially been previously answered by me; my thoughts haven't changed.

Oats what exactly is wrong with Giygas that you want him to die so much? Is there anything new about him since your vote? I believe he has posted a little since so there must be something.

On April 23 2013 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:

This is your response? What possible town motivation is there for acting like this?
##Vote: Oatsmaster

On April 23 2013 09:48 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah, Oats' return is not impressive.

On April 23 2013 09:52 WaveofShadow wrote:

I asked you a very specific question that should be decently easy to answer and you spam shit in the thread and then just scream at people to hammer Giygas when no one is even looking at him except for you, thereby avoiding my simple question entirely. If you were town you'd care more about either trying to clear your name to prevent a mislynch or at the very least give us solid reads and reasoning in case you do go down.

On April 23 2013 09:54 yamato77 wrote:
He's trolling now.

Yeah, kill him.

On April 23 2013 09:57 TheRavensName wrote:
Huh, in my mind Oats, Yamato, and VE were all about even in terms of trolling, and then Yamato at least pretended ot be useful... and oats is just going to keep... acting like this. At least VE is trying to push a case of some kind.,

PS: If you didn't random number generate that vote it doesn't counter Oats.

On April 23 2013 09:59 yamato77 wrote:

Why let you live when you show no indication of scumhunting?

On April 23 2013 10:01 Ace wrote:


Ones in bold need to follow through and vote for Oats.

On April 23 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote:

What does drawing this out do but let you post more dumb posts in the thread?

On April 23 2013 10:07 GiygaS wrote:

So stop trolling and start posting info other than screencaps of random.org

On April 23 2013 10:10 GiygaS wrote:

I did, haha .

What we want is a list of your reads. That way, if you flip town, we get some more info.

On April 23 2013 10:16 Palmar wrote:
am I the hammer? Cause I fucking love hammering


##unvote
##vote Oatsmaster

On April 23 2013 10:24 TheRavensName wrote:
Oats: Why not read so many peoples posts? What if they bring up points that help you flesh out your scum reads or point out something you can run with?

On April 23 2013 11:34 getmoript wrote:
Oats since you're here, why do you want to lynch yamato?

On April 23 2013 11:37 getmoript wrote:
Ok, so why don't you want to lynch him now?

On April 23 2013 11:42 getmoript wrote:
What about the VE case made you exactly think that?

On April 23 2013 11:42 Clarity_nl wrote:


I never said really good scum or town, in fact I think he's bad scum.
Like I said I have no idea about you. I liked yamato's post on ace.

On April 23 2013 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote:


Posts after "VE case":




I'm JUST saying.

On April 23 2013 11:50 getmoript wrote:

Here's my problem with both of you. The typical 'vet' heuristic is that people that share reads with you are likely to be town. You two in fact seem to share a great many reads + Show Spoiler +
However, it isn't until now that you seem to be interested in not voting him despite essentially calling him town earlier you still vote for him. At least he thinks you're scum which somewhat justifies his vote, but your vote seems to be purely survival. Explain how you justify voting for someone who you think is town and shares many of your reads.

On April 23 2013 11:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Your calling out palmar for "rolling scum" isn't what I was referring to when I said "calling people out." Your D1 of Nomination was what I was referring to - your shit-fight with Mocsta and subsequent tunneling of yamato or phagga or whoever the fuck. That stuff is completely absent from this game - repeatedly seeing people post and going "U scum bro?" doesn't fucking count Oats.

On April 23 2013 11:54 getmoript wrote:
So you voted for a town read when you got mad. Are you serious? I can't even keep a straight face right now considering how fucking hilarious of an excuse that is.

Seriously? Do you really think you'd be able to bully scum to vote elsewhere especially a vet like VE?

On April 23 2013 15:53 Bill Murray wrote:
#flipflop 2013

On April 23 2013 16:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
Cause you're both anti town in the dumbest ways possible, but not convinced either of ye are scum just yet. You have a higher chance than most, though. There has also been 0 resistance to both your lynches

On April 23 2013 16:43 Clarity_nl wrote:


Yes good point, clearly I should look at myself when I say "there's been no resistance"
Anyway, I'll indulge you, why?

On April 23 2013 17:20 Clarity_nl wrote:


Cause the last 10 pages were all yamato/oats and I had nothing to add, so I focused elsewhere.
Doubt my meta has changed much since last I played, seeing as it was last I played.

And clearly you're wrong about people not calling me out if I make a (subjectively) bad case. Why would you say that?

On April 23 2013 17:38 Clarity_nl wrote:


*shrugs*, you just called my case weird cause it wasn't a trending topic. You didn't even mention anything regarding my alignment till after Wave's hard defense of him, why is that?

Although I stand by most of my observations in my case, it shouldn't have been made a case yet, shoulda just put it in the notes till I had a little more. Guess I felt like contributing something fresh since I felt guilty for missing the start of the game. It was either post that or post nothing seeing as it was quite late.

On April 23 2013 17:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
I wouldn't lynch him right now, no. Would want to hear from him first.

Don't have many full fledged opinions yet, but the people I was gonna look into next (that being tonight, have work soon) were gonna be giygas, bc and shiaopi (mainly because I don't remember much of them from reading through the thread)

On April 23 2013 18:47 getmoript wrote:

1. I don't care about the 180; I care about voting for a townread
and

However the fact that you seem to 180 in the direction of whoever you're talking to/about you 'change' your mind to match their viewpoint at the time is odd. Hell you don't even realize your vote is on Yamato an untenable position until I bring it up. That's pure survival mentality and obvious scum. You seemed more than willing to get yamato lynched when talking to VE but were willing to join yamato's wagon of justice on ace. The wagon on yamato looks like it had come and gone and you were next on the block. I think shifting people back to yamato would've been tougher than shifting them elsewhere.

At that time you were all down for a Scum VE lynch. At the time you were ALSO trying to shift VE's vote onto someone else. You can't tell me it's not weird as shit. Your actions tell me that you know that VE is town but that you aren't willing to say that.

On April 23 2013 18:24 Palmar wrote:

sup scum

On April 21 2013 19:42 Oatsmaster wrote:

oh god palmar rolled scum

On April 23 2013 21:22 Vivax wrote:
Me and ace are basically the only ones asking people to switch to Oats, others say "can do", others say it looks like a policy, or try to push other cases.

If this was a wagon on a townie, scum could be pushing it easily at this point.
Why didn't any of this happen yet? There's resistance here.

On April 23 2013 21:55 Vivax wrote:
Or yamato, for that matter.
Both are valid targets.

Somebody show me the color of Oats blood pls

On April 23 2013 22:20 Vivax wrote:
Here, I have a more scientific approach. Oats' posting frequency.

Before case:
22 posts between 21 – ~17:00 and 23 – 00:43 - 29:34 difference – 0.71 posts per hour

After case and bandwagon started:
39 posts between 23 – 00:43 and 23:22 – 22:39 h – difference – 1.74 posts per hour

On April 23 2013 22:35 TheRavensName wrote:

So your not willing to play and try to make it interesting?

On April 23 2013 22:37 Hopeless1der wrote:

I think you're too trolly in the face of dieing to be town. I'm not even certain you have a scum read on anyone at all. You've provided next to nothing. A shitty list post where your strongest scum read is "well someone has to be scum, why not Ace". gtfo.

On April 24 2013 00:03 Sylencia wrote:


Yet you actually provide something for us to go off in comparison to Oats.

On April 24 2013 00:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
uhh according to the official counts, Oats is hammered