As scum is it better to have a player who is playing the game or one who isn't? IIRC Blazinghand said the replacements were all dried up and it would be modkills from here out. Clarity had idk a day or two to show up. Let's say he hasn't even been in the QT. Do you bus the living scum that cares enough to post in the thread or the scum who's on the fast track for a modkill? As scum, I would bus the fuck out of Clarity to save any other active scum. In the worst it's like having town waste a day doing what the mods would anyways. There's no reason to bus someone else unless Clarity comes back and magically looks like a virgin. I think Tube was the framer so maybe if Clarity was godfather-type and got a green check, maybe then it could be ok. But there's literally 0 reason not to bus another scum to save Clarity for a modkill. This is especially true if they don't have another framer.

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April 28 2013 05:57 GMT

#2546

On April 28 2013 14:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript are you calling yamato a supercollider?
SCUM RIGHT HERE FOLKS

... It's supposed to be a tunnel

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April 28 2013 05:58 GMT

#2547

On April 28 2013 14:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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There is no way you can know if clarity is gonna come back or not, unless he has said so in scum chat and you magically know this somehow. What is this, a scumslip?

Let me ask you this. When did the clarity lynch target pop back up again?

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April 28 2013 06:00 GMT

#2549

Yamato or VE can tell you about the Snarfs bus in Nomination. He wasn't posting in the thread; he wasn't posting in the QT. What happened... CC and VE hard bussed him to prevent the lynch from turning towards VE. It's not very hard to figure out that this EASILY could be a bus. It EASILY could be a situation where scum just aren't doing shit.

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April 28 2013 06:01 GMT

#2551

On April 28 2013 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The thing is i do not think all scum are inactive.

Explain why you think that. Who are the active scum who are throwing shit around shitting up the thread?

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April 28 2013 06:02 GMT

#2552

Yes yamato, Ace could be mafia. Doubtful but possible.

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April 28 2013 06:09 GMT

#2559

Right now, I really just want to flip yamato.

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April 28 2013 06:21 GMT

#2569

Why are you being so obtuse? The actual push for Clarity didn't happen until yesterday.

On April 26 2013 10:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Unvote: VisceraEyes
##Vote: Clarity_nl

That's 50 hours which is more than enough for a modkill. Hell the vote didn't drop until earlier today. There's no reason to assume that scum didn't help push the case along for towncred or didn't bus their own player to save Shiao. Maybe he told them to bus him. Maybe he was inactive and didn't come back and then said bus him. Maybe anything. I remember being at work watching that train get pushed over the Shiao train. Clarity flipping scum in no way should lead you to believe that Shiao is town.

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April 28 2013 06:33 GMT

#2573

On April 28 2013 15:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Okay, so your conclusion is that mafia did nothing to try to save a mafia guy for getting lynched on D2. Fine. Let's make a deal. We vig ShiaoPi tonight. If he flips town we lynch who i tell the town to lynch. If he somehow flips mafia the mafia is so terrible you can lynch me on D3 and still solve the game easily.

Because i can't possibly believe the mafia team this game is so bad and if it is, i'd rather not waste my time with this game any more, because it's useless.

Deal... sort of. If he flips scum, then you have to vote with me on D3. If he flips town, I'll sheep you for a day. Sound fair?

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April 28 2013 06:52 GMT

#2576

Could WoS be 3p?

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April 28 2013 06:54 GMT

#2577

Nah, Ace's analysis doesn't fit 3P. Nevermind.

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April 28 2013 16:54 GMT

#2600

On April 28 2013 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS promised to provide reads to make people believe him. geript, can you take a look at his filter from D2 and tell me what reads he provided that helps us finding scum? ShiaoPi and GiygaS, and "they deserve to be looked into".

Well there's this gem:

On April 26 2013 23:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Posting from phone: like your analysis of kush, BM.
This is one of those things to me that seems to be only one of two possibilities:
BM is either extremely right about this, or this is one of those massive fabricated cases by scum in order to achieve a mislynch (like the one kita attempted on me in The Game before I claimed).

Great analysis. Either you're right about kush or you're scum. It's like hitting two different birds with one stone while saying he's going to vote for Shiao.

In all seriousness, I don't see him having provided any reads or analysis. I'm not even sure why he thinks Shiao is scum. It's pretty generic +1s or likes.

On April 28 2013 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all, if WoS thinks ShiaoPi is mafia, why does he think he has been "so wrong" at the start of D2, that he needed to claim..???? Also if he thought he is so wrong, why does he still want to look into ShiaoPi? He doesn't mention anyone as scum suspects that Shiao/GiygaS.

Look Rayn, you're a far better player than myself or WoS which makes me exceptionally sad. As a bad player, having a reasonably claimable role is a huge boon. It's like having something to push off of... an anchor so you don't get blow too far. When under pressure, lots of times I've wanted to snap claim (and a have a few times). Yes, it's the wrong thing to do 99% of the time regardless of role. TBH, I don't think he was thinking when he claimed and that's what makes him town. There's such a gut instinct to snap claim under pressure and I can see the reasoning to claim in this situation to prevent wasting a DT check.

On April 28 2013 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He does no research, just asks people what they do think about people.

Do you really think that's worse than yamato? He's been playing so differently from hydra that I can't see him being town anymore. I'll be looking to case him up tomorrow after my exam.

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April 28 2013 17:16 GMT

#2602

Who are your top 3 scum reads Giygas?

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April 28 2013 17:22 GMT

#2606

Why do you think those two are scum? Have you noticed anything anyone else hasn't?

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April 28 2013 17:23 GMT

#2608

On April 29 2013 02:22 Palmar wrote:

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thank you o mighty cobbler.

Can't tell if serious.

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April 28 2013 17:44 GMT

#2612

Why do you think it would've been sound to hold the hammer? What other information could we have gotten from Oats?

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April 28 2013 17:53 GMT

#2616

So you still think ace is scum right?

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April 28 2013 18:38 GMT

#2625

How is Ace being 3P consistent with Palmar being mafia?

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April 28 2013 18:45 GMT

#2631

On April 29 2013 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote:

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A better question is how is it not?

So mafia either attacked BC or witheld KP and defensively roleblocked palmar ?? Or Palmar is flat out lying about about the roleblock and mafia attacked BC or withheld KP? Why is it so hard to believe that Palmar was jailed and attacked? It's easy to believe in conspiracy theories when the simplest answer is the best one.