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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
Anyway, I don't understand how WoS presenting a soft breadcrumb about Miller earlier should really help him, isn't it generally accepted that role breadcrumbs are not trustworthy? My opinion on WoS changed as soon as he claimed Miller, as it's the only role he really could claim if he was scum. Come on vig, shoot this scum. | ||
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getmoript
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
Stutters. He replaced for DrH. DrH made 0 posts and since stutters replaced in he has made basically none as well. He has promised detailed posts that have not come and he defended clarity and attempted to push lynch towards shiao. Without Shiaos flip I cannot say if this was a 100% scum move. However given the flip of clarity + the activity level of stutters and his lack of real involvement while around makes me say scum. Artanis[xp]. This guy is intriguing. He has since joining the game replacing drazak done a lot of defending VE, made a lot of excuses of "lazy and haven't read up on x players, or filtered my main scum reads" Aside from not being overly helpful in terms of pushing the lynch along or even voting at all. The conversations he has had in thread are very superficial and easily left unnoticed as if hes attempting to be appear active without being active. hopeless1nder. He has done absolutely nothing this game. His biggest reads are "sharrant is scum" who if i recall properly was one of the first people to heavily push clarity, when his biggest reason for sharrant is scum is based on one specific read he has. He also ignored clarity almost completely as someone to talk about because of his read on sharrant. Given that clarity was also talked about by Ace, VE, and the like it should be at least something he mentions when he votes. Yamato. I have stated many things about this guy. I am not the only person who has called him out for his performance. Anyone who finds this suspicious or odd of me should more be asking "why does bc still have this guy as a scum read" when the answer is very clear in his filter. Sylencia. To many weird posts. I can't explain them in the least and they just have a feeling of "off" On April 27 2013 10:05 Sylencia wrote: Clarity hasn't been here for 72 hours now .. in which case I'd much rather go for the kill on Shiao today. I won't be around for much today (though I guess you could argue I haven't been around too much), since I'm going to be at a LAN tournament, but I'll try sneak a peek at the topic whenever I can. ##Vote ShiaoPi This for one is very weird to me. I say this because the reasoning to push the lynch onto Shiao is just weird. We don't know if he will get modkilled so pushing the lynch off to someone else is imo scummy. I also view it as a defense move of clarity. This alone is not enough for me to say scum however when I looked through his filter and found On April 25 2013 01:28 Sylencia wrote: CC - Kush Town Voted Getmoript due to wishy washyness Unvoted due to incident. Leaned towards oats based on effort. Wants to lynch ShiaoPi Sharrent Town read Note: Mentions being town billions of times WaveOfShadow: VE Town Read Voted Getmoript due to answer dodging Unvoted due to incident. Becomes a bit suspicious of VE due to lack of posting. Sharrant town read Suspicious of ShiaoPi due to attack on Sharrant Reinforced Sharrant town read grush: bandwagons yamato suspects gigyas due to bandwagon. a lot of off topic comments Note: I'm suspicious of grush here for his hypocritical reasoning: Yet his bandwagon: When asked about whether he would vote Yamato. Tube: ??? Drazak: Has posted, but has never returned since. Giygas: Suspected Oats due to attitude and lack of posts. Hopeless not suspected as scum Sharrant town read Would've supported yamato lynch if hammertime. Sylencia: Semi-suspected TRN due to the rayn defense provided Suspects Rayn due to inconsistent statements about miller lynch / scum suspicion of BM Wagoned on Oats due to lack of town contribution from Oats. VisceraEyes: Early on uneasy about Palmar. Voted getmoript for bad case against yamato (?) Suspected yamato due to "Oh well you know my posting was INTENTIONALLY bad". types of posts voted BM due to his response to BC (quote is below) Note: I don't see what is so bad about this post in general, apparently it comes off as antagonistic. Switches to yamato a few hours later without ever mentioning BM again, despite already getting a response from him and being responded to with a request for an explanation. Says he can get behind an Oats lynch. Only now does he decide to actually read yamato's filter. (Vote was originally pure omgus) switches to oats for original suspicion of oats (2 points above) Note: Reading the filter and looking at some of the points in context such as the argument for BM has made me feel rather suspicious towards VE. Now, I will continue going through everyone's filters for their suspicions and other points tomorrow if I am still alive (public holiday hooray), but from what I have seen as of so far, I would like opinions on VE and grush (am I missing something about grush gameplay here?) Also, I fully know well that filter dive posts doesn't show anything about alignment, so no need to mention that too thx This is a summary post. It is a very fucked up way to play and imo does not help at all in the slightest. It summarizes some peoples play at that point in the game. The thing that stands out most to me however is that he chose tube. Why would you add a player who has not posted at all as a player to summarize? Given the awkwardness of its structure / how it says nothing new at all I feel it + the previous post I quoted are pretty damning. WaveofShadow. This guy has been discussed a bunch already. I feel he has to be dealt with because of his claim. The only way I am comfortable with him not dying is if he seriously steps up and plays solidly and gives me a reason to think of him as a miller and not confirmed scum. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:16 getmoript wrote: Who are your top 3 scum reads Giygas? Shiao and WoS, I don't really have another right now. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22630 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also note. Palmar has also done a lot of really weird shit this game that irks me the wrong way, however I am giving him one last day before I begin to fully focus on him. thank you o mighty cobbler. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
Can't tell if serious. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:22 getmoript wrote: Why do you think those two are scum? Have you noticed anything anyone else hasn't? Shiao for what I mentionned in that big post a while back (he hasn't really done much since then), and the fact that he seemed to be avoiding lynching for Clarity with no explanation. WoS simply for that Miller claim when he came under pressure, I just see it as having few explanations: A) He's mafia, and claimed Miller to get out of it B) He's town, got Miller, and is now stupidly it. He wasn't in any real danger UNTIL he claimed, so if he's town claiming Miller was incredibly stupid. C) 3p, wouldn't mind getting rid of one of these for sure. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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getmoript
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: BC, do you think being lazy makes me scum? Yes. Not being caught up on the thread while actively stating reads (although with weak reasoning) is incredibly shady. That is time that could have been spent reading and forming more solid reads or taking more information into account for a read. | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:44 getmoript wrote: Why do you think it would've been sound to hold the hammer? What other information could we have gotten from Oats? Well we hammered right at the time that oats decided to get serious and answer questions. We should have waited for him to come back, ask some more questions, and then hammer him if we still thought he was scum. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Yes. Not being caught up on the thread while actively stating reads (although with weak reasoning) is incredibly shady. That is time that could have been spent reading and forming more solid reads or taking more information into account for a read. Reading 40+ pages and analyzing them takes longer than reading along with current thread events. The latter is also more fun. I've always said that I hate big games, and this game was already underway for 60+ pages by the time I replaced in. This has nothing to do with alignment, just with my personality. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Reading 40+ pages and analyzing them takes longer than reading along with current thread events. The latter is also more fun. I've always said that I hate big games, and this game was already underway for 60+ pages by the time I replaced in. This has nothing to do with alignment, just with my personality. Perhaps. Issue is that you replaced in at page 72. Which was almost exactly 4 days ago. I recognize there is a ton of content to read, however catching up I don't think would be the hardest thing in the world over that period of time. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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VisceraEyes
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