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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 03:41 GMT
#3453
The logic obviously wasn't terrible as it held.

Have u read the filters of VE/Artanis/OO.

I did, and shevlocke is a recurring theme for pushing as a lynch candidate.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 03:57 GMT
#3456
I checked him because he has been absent from the thread; and I wanted a double check.

Now I know he is vanilla; Its enough for me to treat him as confirmed town (personally)

This night kill didnt give too much info away

Sn0 was a safe kill for inventor
&
MZ was a safe kill to remove town KP

it didnt give anything away to why Kei is still alive etc or any theories akin.

Will be very curious to hear what SnB check reported..
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 13:12 GMT
#3467
On April 13 2013 16:13 yamato77 wrote:
His "bonus" might just be a GF bonus, similar to Artanis'.

This is false as per OP

On March 19 2013 05:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Politicians gain advantages for having vote manipulation roles, law enforcement has advantages to investigative, gangsters to kp roles,

=====================

Vote Rigger - You are a vote rigger! You have two oneshot powers. The first is you can, once only, force a double lynch at any time during the voting (the two leading candidates at the end of the day are lynched). The second is that you may rig the votes as you see fit. Surprise! You may only use one power per day.

Can Sinani even be lynched?

With no town KP left...?

Sinani
Please confirm what benefits you have to you're role via being Vote Rigger.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 13:16 GMT
#3468
I really hope Shelvocke isnt RebirthofLegend; but his constant fucking off and doing nothing to help town is reminding of ThePeaShooter majorly.

================
At least we can be sure scum only has 1 night KP.
================

Keirathi
Day2, I was pushing for a SnB lynch pretty hard.

Austin in particular gave me resistance, and no one else seemed to care about what I was saying. - IIRC that included you.

Night 2 you were pushing for SnB.

Can you walk me through what in particular changed your mind.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 14:15 GMT
#3474
On April 13 2013 22:57 Restraining Order wrote:
sinani says his bonus only applies to the double-lynch (2-shot instead of 1). Which sounds like the town bonus, mafia would have probably gotten 2 rigs, I guess.

He has a green check on him.

He didn't vote-rig away from their CPR doc.

Confirmed scum tried to get him lynched.


I'm inclined to believe he is town.
The lynch should be between Vivax and snb.
On April 13 2013 22:58 Restraining Order wrote:
Actually, we can just lynch both.
hint hint.

Dandel Ion, this is in my opinion; your best two posts in the whole game. And I think one of the best ideas in the game; as simple as it is, the idea didnt cross my mind.

I agree completely; enable the vote-rigger double lynch; and vote off Vivax/SnB.

Im inclined to think its SnB, but might as well cover all bases and include Vivax.
Scum only have 1 KP; so even if this somehow doesnt win the game; town is still in a commanding situation.

(I also agree with the logic for thinking Sinani is town)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 14:16 GMT
#3475
Sinani
Can you please confirm if you are happy to enable the double-lynch power?

OR.. just rig the votes and lynch SnB.

SnB has not contributed anything to the thread; since Sharrant martyred.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 15:15 GMT
#3481
Raynmaster
That post needs to be deleted.

You are dead.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&currentpage=174#3479
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 15:18 GMT
#3483
On April 13 2013 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
Yammo is vanilla townie

If deconduo was scum janitor we could be looking for a traitor, otherwise I guess we are forced to conclude he really was a townie who used janitor night 1

Why do ppl want to lynch me? This is like the first time that most of my scum reads have actually been correct

Also lynching one of our investigative roles when we don't have to seems pretty dumb. Whether I'm town or scum, anyone I give a green check to is not scum

Also also BM not wanting to shoot me is not alignment indicative towards me, because if he shoots me and I'm not scum then BM gets auto lynched

So instead of looking into other players as scum; your best contribution with 8-9 players in the game; is "there could be a traitor"

Zero analysis on who it could be.

Yeah.. and then you wonder why you are up for lynch lol.

Sinani
Are you willing to rig the vote, and remove SnB from play now?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 15:18 GMT
#3484
On April 14 2013 00:17 Restraining Order wrote:
Pretty sure that was Oats, dud.


Anyways, snb I'll give you 5 more minutes to answer my simple question.

LOL... i just saw Rayn and assumed hahah.. True true.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 16:52 GMT
#3498
On April 14 2013 01:31 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 01:24 strongandbig wrote:
Anyway keirathi do you disagree that scum likely only has one KP left and that we should have dts check me instead of lynching me? If you're worried that scum would kill the dt who checks me, we could have both you and vivax check me.

No, I don't disagree. Hence why I said "Actually that's a good point" Scum almost certainly only have 1 KP left.

My only real problem is that we have no idea how the bonuses work. We know a "Gangster" got a godfather bonus. Does that mean a "Law enforcement" character can't get a godfather bonus? Or a "politician" character?

The answer you seek is here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&currentpage=174#3467

Short answer is "no" Law enfrocement can not receive GF bonus.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 16:59 GMT
#3500
On April 14 2013 01:22 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 01:20 strongandbig wrote:
Also lynching one of our dts instead of checking them makes no sense in this situation. We have like three claimed detectives, and scum has only got one KP (assuming one of the kills last night was due to bill Murray). We can check everyone left in the game before scum can kill all of us. So if you really think I'm scum, there's absolutely no reason to lynch me instead of having a detective check me.

Actually this is kind of a good point.

Hmmm, I'll think about it.

Disagree.

SnB surely isnt lying about being a detective; so role check is useless.

The only alignment check we have is Vivax & SnB.
I am role check; and I believe Kei is as well.

Both alignment checkers are "questionable". SnB >>> Vivax though.

Obviously, if SnB is scum; he will shoot Vivax (or vice-versa).. and then what?

We should not be tempted to win this game by DT checks; there should be enough in filters to implicate final scum.
Its pretty much pointing out SnB for a long time.
A reminder from Sharrant.
On April 12 2013 11:57 Sharrant wrote:
I'm going to say this again:

Lynch StrongAndBig tomorrow. He showed up tonight not to help town on the lynch, but to see if he was on the chopping block, and when he realized he wasn't he left. He's not trying to figure out alignments because he's the last scum.

Lynch StrongAndBig.
It was true Day2; and is still true now, Day3.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 17:04 GMT
#3502
On April 14 2013 01:57 Keirathi wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 14 2013 01:52 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 01:31 Keirathi wrote:
On April 14 2013 01:24 strongandbig wrote:
Anyway keirathi do you disagree that scum likely only has one KP left and that we should have dts check me instead of lynching me? If you're worried that scum would kill the dt who checks me, we could have both you and vivax check me.

No, I don't disagree. Hence why I said "Actually that's a good point" Scum almost certainly only have 1 KP left.

My only real problem is that we have no idea how the bonuses work. We know a "Gangster" got a godfather bonus. Does that mean a "Law enforcement" character can't get a godfather bonus? Or a "politician" character?

The answer you seek is here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&currentpage=174#3467

Short answer is "no" Law enfrocement can not receive GF bonus.

You're reading that part wrong.

It says "politicians gain bonuses FOR HAVING vote manipulation roles" not "politices gain bonuses TO vote manipulation roles".

By your logic, how is godfather a logical bonus to assassin, a KP role?

In fairness, i didnt quote the whole OP as it was a response to something specific. Here we go
On March 19 2013 05:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
All roles that may be chosen are in the spoilers below. This game also has heavy theme elements. For instance every player will receive as part of their alignment PM a character from the show Boardwalk Empire. Depending on which character you receive you will have benefits for selecting a role that would fit the theme of your character.

For example. If you are a character like Richard Harrow a KP role would be more powerful in your hands compared to a detective role. IE if you were a 1 shot kp role normally but are also Richard Harrow you would have 2 shots instead. Politicians gain advantages for having vote manipulation roles, law enforcement has advantages to investigative, gangsters to kp roles, Kingpins have advantages to Traditional mafia roles such as godfather, prince of darkness, janitor, framer, roleblocker. All other characters gain advantages to defensive roles.
[/b]
I get what you are saying though: why wasnt the # of shots increased.
WIFOM, but perhaps because assassin is unlimited shots (if correct).
Assassins blend in, so GF is a flavour satisfying bonus for an unliminted shot role (in my opinion) but yes, wifom.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 17:05 GMT
#3503
On April 14 2013 02:03 Keirathi wrote:
I'm an alignment check, goofy.

Ahh ok.. hmm much more plausible then.

That reminds me.. Who did Vivax parity check?

Will be really convenient if it was BM.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 17:23 GMT
#3508
Too tired for this shit.

Night guys.

One thing I learnt from filter diving last night (Art/VE/OO)

was that, Artanis and IIRC OO; gave Vivax town reads with weird justifications.

Artanis town reads on ppl like u, felt real (like he really thought u were town, and was giving points).
But with Vivax, he just commented on some stuff about meta.

Just something to keep in mind; if Vivax parity check was on BM; I would just lynch him.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 18:01 GMT
#3511
I dont see the point.

I can only role check.

and he was so confident to immediately say parity cop... i saw no reason to validate that.

All the other cops tried to be more reserved, and just say cop.

If anything that makes vivax look worse though. Point is.. im sure my check would come back parity, so what then?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 18:44 GMT
#3515
Right.. and scum wont pick JusticeVig either

and scum wont hard bus day 1

This game; almost anything goes.

The only person I am truly certain of is myself, Restraining Order, Shevlocke, Sinani and perhaps Oats.

I know you are slippery as scum; and your day1 was questionable.. but i have to put trust in you trying to figure out this game being town; and remove that WIFOM out of the equation.

That leaves; yam/SnB/Vivax.

I see no reason to not have the vote rigger enable double lynch; and start getting rid of the drift wood, and expedite this game to completion.

Anyways, really super tired, so def going to bed now. peace Out, will be out most of the day tomorrow.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 13 2013 18:51 GMT
#3518
On April 14 2013 03:49 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 03:44 Mocsta wrote:
That leaves; yam/SnB/Vivax.

S&B has green+VT check on yam. Whether S&B is town or scum, the check is valid. And a VT can't get any "bonuses" afaik. Which means yam is almost certainly green.

Ahh ok. I can live with that

That leaves Vivax really

kk

##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 14 2013 03:39 GMT
#3533
On April 14 2013 05:50 sinani206 wrote:
##Vote: Sinani206

I will kill whoever town agrees on with the rig to prove I have it.

Why are you martyring?

We dont want you dead.

We want Vivax dead.

Pls organise his death.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 14 2013 04:01 GMT
#3535
Ugh?

Why vote himself regardless. wats the point.

Its pretty clear who the town wants dead; so why bother to make this. just do the fucking action.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
April 14 2013 04:08 GMT
#3537
But he hasnt rigged the vote; and its fuckn clear what to do.

Stop wasting my time. I asked him clearly to rig Vivax
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