EPTu guys agreed to some extend scum.
looking for the plexa breadcrumbs
On April 10 2013 10:50 Restraining Order wrote:
Anyways, scum is still austin, vivax and mocsta.
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Anyways, scum is still austin, vivax and mocsta.
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
u guys agreed to some extend scum. looking for the plexa breadcrumbs | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 09 2013 05:35 Oatsmaster wrote: I finished Personality with him being scum, me being town. I think there is enough original thought done by him to make him town. I like most of his posting in this game. That don't sound right. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
i think im meant to be shortly after vivax. Im not claiming before Vivax, but dont want to hold up the queue. So, I did crumb my role; twice talking to the same person. Peace Out. | ||
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Vivax
21965 Posts
That'd be real gangsta. | ||
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Restraining Order
Qatar276 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote: Oats's last post on austin before M_Z's nuke is: That don't sound right. My first post of something resembling content in the QT (and I'm paraphrasing from memory here) Me: "hey I wanna lynch austin tomorrow but I cba writing a case cuz I'm lazy, you guys down?" M_Z: "I'm down" Guess he was more down than he let on! | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:42 Oatsmaster wrote: where are you going with this sn0 man? Dunno. Background-checking your claim. Trying to figure out what on earth caused the M_Z nuke debacle. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:39 Vivax wrote: Mocsta let's lynch ObviousOne. That'd be real gangsta. What would be gangsta about it? Why do you wish to be gangsta? How will it help town win this mafia game? | ||
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geript
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:02 geript wrote: Yup, still seeing no reason to move my votes. M_Z is part of a PM network with both other members asserting his towniness and I've been DT checked as town by a DT who was seperately checked as town. Seems like pretty good reasons to me. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:02 geript wrote: Do explain. Yup, still seeing no reason to move my votes. You're voting the guy nuking me AND the guy I'm more-than-hinting I checked last night and got a town result. | ||
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Vivax
21965 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:00 Sn0_Man wrote: What would be gangsta about it? Why do you wish to be gangsta? How will it help town win this mafia game? He expressed interest into VE when he got under pressure, promised to look into him, never did.But was fine with throwing around his other two reads. + Show Spoiler + VE: I've been aware he's in two games since I am/was on the replacement list for his other game (Noir Mini I) so I expect this game to suffer more due to the nature of Noir being instant majority. I'll review him as we approach the midpoint of day so there's hopefully something more there. Keirathi: I'm more green than null on Kei, but that's more bias based on how I perceive him as a person than a player so now that he's finished jerking off for 12 hours straight [lol take a nap, dude] should be able to identify if my bias is clouding my perception of him. RO: He's another one I will want to review before the midpoint of day. I believe I mentioned earlier his D0 was more helpful/proactive than he was all game in LX [my opinion, didn't review LX] so he's at least Null. He started summarizing inconclusive meta points about Artanis when he got under pressure + Show Spoiler + @Gonzaw: Artanis[XP] mafia meta highlights based on his one recorded scum game in the database: Haunted Mafia - Replaced into game at P64 - GG out P116 - Total of perhaps 8 "useful" posts over 50 pages Characteristics I picked out from Haunted [2010]: - Makes summaries {conglomerations of players posts} with blanket statements regarding alignment - I used to do this all the time especially in my earliest games - Feigned/Real inactivity/unavailability - not necessarily a scum tell but a useful scum tool - Offers to be "helpful" for a period of time - not taking the initiative and doing something useful himself - Defensive stance - possibly a product of being under suspicion when being replaced in, but in this game was used to misdirect suspicion on lurkers to non-mafia faction I'm looking for something more recent, but Artanis tends to host games rather than play... search filter only went back to March 2012 and the database shows no scum games other than Haunted. to show up the day after as 8th to vote for him with an extensive meta case, but barely considering what had been happening in the thread, and never pushing for any lynch despite posting such a huge case (which was at a weird time cause Artanis was already dead, basically, and imo he only posted it to look good after flip. | ||
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Vivax
21965 Posts
hahahahahahahahhahhahhhahhahhahaahahhahahhaaaa | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I'm still kinda blown away by the whole BM Justice-Vigging Caller and being alive thing. Because that would make BM confirmed town (picking a role like that), but it all seems so weird. That is to say, it seems so unlikely, I'd like to see BM die and flip. However, The chances of BM putting himself out there like this with so few mafia left if he were mafia also seem around 0. URGH. | ||
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Vivax
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:14 Vivax wrote: I'm confirmed town though, Palmar gave me a townread Palmar gave me a scumread and I'm confirmed town. Means Palmar was full of it. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:05 austinmcc wrote: Do explain. You're voting the guy nuking me AND the guy I'm more-than-hinting I checked last night and got a town result. I see no reason to believe your claim. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:51 Sharrant wrote: Hi, Keirathi. If VE was my scum buddy, do you think he would've responded to my post? Because he never did. The reason I brought it up to him is twofold: pretty much absolutely nobody read my case on you, or if they did, nobody commented on it, and the conversation of the thread shifted immediately away from you. And I don't know how to read VE, like I said, I thought I made a slam dunk case about him last game, but he was town. As you can read in that post, I did not expect both of you to be scum, so I wanted his opinion on you, and to help foster some discussion because his response to the game was to stick his head in the sand. After he didn't respond I pretty much gave up on him because there was more important stuff going on in the thread, and he would either start playing, or he would likely get shot. I can't speak for what VE would or wouldn't have done if he was your teammate. What I can speak of is that VE, by his own admission, wasn't really reading the thread, or really responding to anything. Why would this case have been any different if you happened to be teammates? From the way he played, and his role, it seems pretty obvious to me that he was hoping to skirt by just enough during the day to survive the lynch, and then take out anyone who tried to investigate or vig him. On April 11 2013 00:51 Sharrant wrote: Why did I defend Artanis? Because he read townie to me and he was a serious lynch candidate. He read townie to me not just for the reasons I gave in that post you quoted, but because he was the only person who seemed to be reading and responding to my posts. He genuinely seemed to be involved in the game, and read as if he was in a similar position to me in the early game: A townie that seems to oft be ignored by the thread unless something sparks particular interest from the thread. Being wrong isn't a crime. But when I look at that big post about Artanis, I don't really see you addressing any of gonzaw's points. Every quote you quoted is just calling Artanis townie for his pre-game plans. Anyways, this was the weakest part of my case against you. It just feels like a typical scum defending a scumbuddy, though, because you gloss over the scummy parts to only talk about the things that might make him town. On April 11 2013 00:51 Sharrant wrote: As for the "chainsaw defense" thing, that's particularly scummy for you. I was asked by another player to read Obvious One's filter, and comment on it. So that's what I did. If you had read the thread and not cherry picked the quote you would know that. Now if you have something that you would like to dispute with the case, talk to me about it. Now, this is an interesting response. Yes, you were specifically asked by another player to read OO. But, what exactly did S&B ask? On April 08 2013 10:30 strongandbig wrote: so how about lets talk about a player? I randomly chose obviousone. i wrote up a few sentences about his post about artanis, how about you do the same and then we can both post ours after i finish my next dota game? Except, in your entire post, you never talk about OO's post about Artanis. Why not? That seems like a pretty huge part of OO's filter, and should be a decent way for you to get a read on him. I mean, OO apparently did a lot of meta research and concluded that your strongest town read was scum. Why ignore it and only talk about other things? Another interesting point is that you seemed quite able to go read meta. Hell, all of your case on me and subsequent retraction of said case was a meta "feel" read. So the first part of your attack on OO seems strange: On April 08 2013 11:21 Sharrant wrote: This post felt very airy, it certainly felt to me like a post that was primarily summation. There are some good questions in there, but there's no hard stances. The closest he comes to that is that he says he's got his eye on Rayn, but then never specifically says he was scummy. Points out he doesn't give fit his previous town meta, but then he gives him an out on it anyways saying that he might be fishing for reactions. You didn't go check of OO makes those kinds of posts as town or scum? Why not? Ironically, this section is doing exactly what you're accusing OO of; you give a quick overview of something, but you don't actually say what you think about it. It's just "airy". (And yes, I know you are calling him scum later. My point is, what is the point of this section? You don't say whether that post in particular makes him scum or not. It doesn't add to the case). All that combined is why I called your push on OO a "chainsaw" defense. On April 11 2013 00:51 Sharrant wrote: Yep, I was pretty much 100% sure, but not as you stated 100% sure. There's a difference. Again you go with your "extraordinary" amount of thought. He made it about as obvious as BM made his own role at the start of today. You could glance at his posts and tell what he was, if you think the fact that I'm trying to determine other people's selections is scummy, that's fine. I do it because I want to know as much as I possibly can. I was using your words, not my own. And again, it wasn't obvious to ME because I just didn't care. But I digress, this is sort of a pointless argument. It's just an interesting tidbit that you seemingly knew gonzaw's role before he flipped, and were certain that the shot came from an assassin. Do you not agree that this looks fishy from my end? On April 11 2013 00:51 Sharrant wrote: I'm going to give your filter a re-read, and read some of your past games later. I want to know if you cherry pick as both alignments. Please do. I've been quite wrong myself this game. As far as cherry picking....what do you want me to do, quote your entire filter? I gave the posts that were most relevant to making my point: That you are scum. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
So you do not believe my claim either? | ||
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Vivax
21965 Posts
On April 09 2013 04:41 deconduo wrote: I come home to 300 posts and 2 mafia dead? Nice one guys. Sinani and Shelvocke next please. On April 10 2013 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have an idea. sn0_man and ObvousOne. Shoot each other. At least sn0_man has basically claimed he has a KP role and one of them like HAS to be scum. On April 09 2013 05:22 Caller wrote: i'm bad so lets lynch obviousone tomorrow actually On April 09 2013 09:13 Palmar wrote: so who's shooting that sn0 dude? | ||
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