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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 10 2013 05:56 GMT
#2381
Yrah oh

so swap oo or sinani for mz?
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 10 2013 05:58 GMT
#2382
Perversely his nuke makes sense if he was going to do it through his lead of people diverting the Artanis lynch but I can see the need for going through with the lynch policy in the long run. Can't say "oh we have this policy but just not in this instance" because then its not a policy. Yeah... Sour. I want to believe.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 06:02 GMT
#2383
On April 10 2013 14:58 ObviousOne wrote:
Perversely his nuke makes sense if he was going to do it through his lead of people diverting the Artanis lynch but I can see the need for going through with the lynch policy in the long run. Can't say "oh we have this policy but just not in this instance" because then its not a policy. Yeah... Sour. I want to believe.

Well, the policy isn't even really the point. I never expected to enforce the policy, especially with the number of vets/ballsy "I dont give a fuck" players in this game. The real idea behind it was to try to bully "weaker"/newer players into not using the shot if they were town out of fear.

As for the bolded part, I 100% agree with you that the target of his nuke makes perfect sense from a townie perspective. It's the TIMING of the nuke that doesn't. He has 36 hours from the day post to launch his nuke, and it only detonates at the end of the day. Why do it now? It just doesn't make rational sense.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 10 2013 06:18 GMT
#2384
On April 10 2013 15:02 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 14:58 ObviousOne wrote:
Perversely his nuke makes sense if he was going to do it through his lead of people diverting the Artanis lynch but I can see the need for going through with the lynch policy in the long run. Can't say "oh we have this policy but just not in this instance" because then its not a policy. Yeah... Sour. I want to believe.

Well, the policy isn't even really the point. I never expected to enforce the policy, especially with the number of vets/ballsy "I dont give a fuck" players in this game. The real idea behind it was to try to bully "weaker"/newer players into not using the shot if they were town out of fear.

As for the bolded part, I 100% agree with you that the target of his nuke makes perfect sense from a townie perspective. It's the TIMING of the nuke that doesn't. He has 36 hours from the day post to launch his nuke, and it only detonates at the end of the day. Why do it now? It just doesn't make rational sense.

I'm with you on this as far as this point is concerned.

I'm trying to figure out Vivax (as far as that is even possible, did you ever read my meta case on him in LX? no matter how good/bad it was, I was wrong) and going by his latest lynch choices, he's interested in me, sn0, and potentially mocsta.

For me it seems he didn't like my interactions with the thread during Wrestlemania.
For sn0 it's the low activity, it seems? He's had sn0 as a read for 2 real days so I gather that's the gist of his reasons there.
Mocsta = ??????

So do his scum reads have any depth? He was suspicious of RO and I'm going through Vivax's filter to see if that's still the case or he forgot. Can't seem to find where he changes his mind except to suggest a scum team to RO:
On April 09 2013 09:19 Vivax wrote:
RO.

Oats, austin Sno final scumteam.

Thoughts?


Insanity seems to be his thing, this introspective moment from him is really the only thing I feel lends him any credit at all:
On April 09 2013 09:11 Vivax wrote:
I'd probably think I'm scum myself in some other townies' shoes. Got all my reads wrong, was willing to lynch VE but not ahead of others, defended Artanis.

Whyyyy

But past all that I can't be null. I want to say scum but would he really point out the ways he gave support for the scum team in the thread like he did in the last quote if he was scum?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 06:25 GMT
#2385
Bleh, everytime I think about MZ, I keep coming back to this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18232387

Why would a scum make that post? Why not see what town decides to do after the gonzaw flip to decide if you need to hard bus? I mean, Artanis was the fkn Assassin, which is arguably one of the strongest roles in the game (ironically, Jack is one of the few roles I would rate higher than Assassin, and the assassin killed him and he killed the assasin [in a way]). That makes even less sense than a townie insta-nuking austin as the day starts.

Fuck that nuke. Making the game even harder to rationalize.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 10 2013 06:31 GMT
#2386
Well if BM isn't full of shit then caller was already bussing artanis for credit in which case a scum M_Z would know about it and do the same.

I don't think thats the case because BM is so far looking like he's loopy, but its apparently a possibility.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 10 2013 06:36 GMT
#2387
Are you talking about the movie "Looper"?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 10 2013 06:37 GMT
#2388
On April 10 2013 15:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Are you talking about the movie "Looper"?

So you don't deny being full of it? LEFT THAT ONE OPEN DIDN'T YOU?!
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 10 2013 06:41 GMT
#2389
Based on flavor, Rayn is the mafia out of the group if people that died last night.

I'd also be willing to bet that there's still a town justice vig alive, as I don't think Palmar picked that role.
Writer@WriterYamato
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 06:43 GMT
#2390
On April 10 2013 15:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well if BM isn't full of shit then caller was already bussing artanis for credit in which case a scum M_Z would know about it and do the same.

I don't think thats the case because BM is so far looking like he's loopy, but its apparently a possibility.

It seems like BM's whole reason for thinking Caller was scum was because Janitor was used. Deconduo already claimed Janitor becuase Mocsta claimed shooting him. It's pretty unlikely that decon was town, because 1) why would town pick janitor in slot 19? They have no reason to suspect its open, when half of the game revolved around telling early pickers to counterpick if they weren't sure they could use their roles well. Only scum picking that late would really think it might be open because they could coordinate. (Also possible that decon was another role, and claimed janitor instead of a teammate, just to fuck with us.) and 2) Why would a town janitor use the fucking ability at all? It is a 100% anti-town ability that serves no purpose in town hands. Decon is not on idiot.

Not sure if BM is just bad for shooting the towniest person in the game, or if he's scum. Neither would surprise me nearly as much as Caller actually being scum and me being wrong about this.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 10 2013 06:43 GMT
#2391
One more vote on M_Z may have interesting results.

In the meantime, Bedtime!
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 10 2013 06:46 GMT
#2392
keirathi, i love how you're saying MY reasoning

no, that is not MY reasoning

I have reasoning you wouldn't even begin to fathom... you know.. .the kind that can lead to clear town

but since you're scum you won't realize that

im going to keep my vote on you for the rest of this game, and I am 100% killing you if I don't die tonight
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 10 2013 06:47 GMT
#2393
On April 10 2013 15:25 Keirathi wrote:
Bleh, everytime I think about MZ, I keep coming back to this post:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18232387

Why would a scum make that post? Why not see what town decides to do after the gonzaw flip to decide if you need to hard bus? I mean, Artanis was the fkn Assassin, which is arguably one of the strongest roles in the game (ironically, Jack is one of the few roles I would rate higher than Assassin, and the assassin killed him and he killed the assasin [in a way]). That makes even less sense than a townie insta-nuking austin as the day starts.

Fuck that nuke. Making the game even harder to rationalize.

We also can't discount Caller's busting out Showtime when he did, it's not an impossibility that votes could have swung anywhere else in the remaining hours of the day. But, look just a few posts down in his filter, he was readying to move on to VE next and that's just as pro-town a move as sticking with Artanis. (His inference seems to be that Artanis was getting shot at that point, not that it was about to be Showtime!).

...
Fuck that nuke indeed.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 06:50 GMT
#2394
On April 10 2013 15:46 Bill Murray wrote:
keirathi, i love how you're saying MY reasoning

no, that is not MY reasoning

I have reasoning you wouldn't even begin to fathom... you know.. .the kind that can lead to clear town

but since you're scum you won't realize that

im going to keep my vote on you for the rest of this game, and I am 100% killing you if I don't die tonight

If you have reasoning that can lead to a clear town, then why aren't you sharing it?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 10 2013 06:54 GMT
#2395
Changed my mind.

Voting Bill before bed. More in the morning
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 06:58 GMT
#2396
On April 10 2013 15:41 yamato77 wrote:
Based on flavor, Rayn is the mafia out of the group if people that died last night.

I'd also be willing to bet that there's still a town justice vig alive, as I don't think Palmar picked that role.

Explain.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 10 2013 07:01 GMT
#2397
Kei

i like your idea.decon feign janitor to hide that a live scum is vt only by using jan power

very feasible. As the move to claim jan is weird in itself

i would bet a left nut this is the real story
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 07:03 GMT
#2398
On April 10 2013 16:01 Mocsta wrote:
Kei

i like your idea.decon feign janitor to hide that a live scum is vt only by using jan power

very feasible. As the move to claim jan is weird in itself

i would bet a left nut this is the real story

I wouldn't go that far. Role Cop would out the real Janitor so fast as scum. I mean, it would anyways for using the power night 1, but doubly so in this case because decon would have been lying for him.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 07:04 GMT
#2399
EBWOP:

Although maybe scum picked Role Cop to go along with their Assassin, so they wouldn't be scared of it.

That seems like a weird scum strategy though. NRA, Janitor, and Role Cop? That's a lot of roles that could have been direct KP.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 10 2013 07:09 GMT
#2400
Kei

as i asked before

if we voting mz to clear all doubt with double lynch

do we swap out oo or sinani?
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