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Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 17 2013 21:41 GMT

How many people will be in this game?

Will be away for Friday and Saturday, if the game starts after that then I'll probably accept.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 00:28 GMT

#150

I highly doubt that there are people who haven't read their role PMs.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 00:31 GMT

#155

On March 26 2013 09:29 sinani206 wrote:
What's the point in saying that you haven't read your role though?

Because it seems like the standard D1 meta is to fuck around and wait for someone to take it too seriously.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 04:52 GMT

#276

Acrofales seemed to be making a lot of sense at the beginning of the game and now he's looking really bad. He said this:

On March 26 2013 10:54 Acrofales wrote:
However, if you BELIEVE OO is lying about not having read his role PM; you should really be in favour of lynching him. The ONLY reason to LIE about this, is because he's scum. There is no townie reason to lie and say you have not read your role PM.

The joking stage of the game is over and he's still trying to drag it on into seriousness. And looking back at his filter, he said a lot of things about how people should be interpreting OO's words without putting in his own opinion. And in general there isn't much real content in his filter. I think he's scum.

##vote acrofales

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 05:02 GMT

#280

The bold part doesn't mean anything, that's just what he had bolded in his post. The point is that that post is telling people to vote based on what's happening in the meaningless beginning parts of the game.

"Contentless" isn't about quantity, it's about how much of his posts have his own opinions on things. Which isn't really in his filter at all.

I don't know how prplhz is a primary suspicion in this game, he has 3 posts which all mean nothing.

InsertSmurfHere's analysis on Dandel looks like scum bait. No one bit it, which is unfortunate but these things don't always work.

I don't see anything weird about marv, is there a case on him? Because if there is then I don't remember reading it.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 05:28 GMT

#289

Acrofales was telling other people what they should do depending on whether they believed OO was lying. He did not mention if he thought OO was lying or not.

On March 26 2013 14:09 Hapahauli wrote:

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Scum-bait in the sense that InsertSmurf is scummy, or that it's a bad case and that scum will usually bite on such things?

The latter.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 19:28 GMT

#494

Good morning everyone.

The case on Grack is really weak, and if it were made by someone other than Palmar it probably wouldn't be getting nearly as far as it is now.

Just because Smurf made a bad case doesn't mean he's scum. He looks town now and there shouldn't be any suspicion on him.

Acrofales is making a bit more sense but his case on me is just a bunch of OMGUS. Acro, who is your secondary suspect?

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 19:31 GMT

#498

oh sinani is here too.

Who do you think is scum?

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 19:45 GMT

#503

On March 27 2013 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nisani: Why does Smurf look town now?

He never looked scum. The case he made was scumbait, it didn't catch anyone, he backpedaled, and now he's contributing to the thread.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 19:53 GMT

#506

On March 27 2013 04:47 Keirathi wrote:

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Why are you so sure it was a "scumbait" case? Smurf never said "okay, okay. I was faking this case" or anything of the sort. He admitted that he was wrong, but that's a pretty huge difference.

Well it's possible that he believed the case when he wrote it. I don't think he did, but I can't explain his actions.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 20:08 GMT

#525

On March 27 2013 04:56 Keirathi wrote:

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Why do you not think that he believed it when he made it? That's the part I'm confused about. Literally everything his has said about it after-the-fact points to him believing it when he said it, then changing his mind after people pointed out how terrible it was and him doing a bit more research.

Because it was a really bad case. Even if he wasn't wrong about his meta analysis, it still would have been a bad case.

I think we should stop discussing this until Smurf himself comes back to clear this up.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 20:30 GMT

#538

The initial case on Grack was bad, it was based off of his reactions to certain things, which weren't really scummy. He didn't do anything scummy after that. As I said earlier, the only reason people are voting for him is because of Palmar.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 21:06 GMT

#551

What the hell is wrong with Grack's "attitude" or "intention?" I don't see anything wrong with that.

It's possible that Palmar is scum. I'm more confident on Acrofales scum though.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 21:18 GMT

#559

I just read through Acro's filter again and I could be wrong about him.

I want to believe Palmar is scum but I've been wrong about him in the past which is why I'm not pushing against him.

I don't really know who else is scum. All of the current candidates are pretty bad. I'm gonna look into Cora.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 26 2013 21:27 GMT

#567

On March 27 2013 06:22 prplhz wrote:
@Nisani201 How do you feel about that sinani206 guy?

He has very little in his filter. He's playing slightly better than he usually does, idk if that's a scumtell or not.

I want to see what his reads are.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 03:41 GMT

#729

I don't understand why we're still taking about this meta stuff. Just because OO’s play style is different in this game than another doesn't make him scum. In fact, it means absolutely nothing.

I agree that prplhz has been flying under the radar and he could be scum. I want to hear other's thoughts on it though.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 03:50 GMT

#735

Perhaps I've been misinterpreting the thread. Why did we have a 1.5 page discussion about OO's meta?

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 04:07 GMT

#740

Can we get a vote count?

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 04:10 GMT

#742

Alright, throwing my vote on prplhz.

Not gonna do the ## thing here though because I'm on my tablet.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 19:22 GMT

#1020

i just remembered why i stopped playing mafia

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 19:25 GMT

#1021

Also I don't remember who it was or where it was but someone in the past ~5 pages said that "we need to consolidate our votes on either nisani or smurf" and whoever said that is probably scum.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 19:53 GMT

#1052

On March 28 2013 04:45 cDgCorazon wrote:

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Because Sinani has at least explained his vote somewhat (that Nisani is scum). Sinani has also done a slightly better job being active in the thread and responding to different topics brought up, whereas the majority of Nisani's filter is him talking about Palmar and Grack.

When it comes down to people playing this anti-town of games we have to start nitpicking stuff and looking at details like this.

This post is untrue. And horrible.

I would be down with a Kei lynch.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 20:15 GMT

#1093

On March 28 2013 04:59 marvellosity wrote:

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I would say that this is a very valid point.

It's partly why I'm very interested in hearing what Nisani has to say about sinani.

I don't have any special insight into how Sinani plays mafia. Anyone who's played with him in the past knows his playstyle, and that he's very hard to read. The only content in his filter is the case against me, which is horrible but indicative of nothing.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 20:17 GMT

#1099

Gonna throw my vote on Kei, even though I'm probably dead.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 20:18 GMT

#1100

On March 28 2013 05:16 sinani206 wrote:

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On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:

On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:

Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.

Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?

It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.

My town read on you = gone.

Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum??

You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure?

I'm not 100% sure Nisani is scum, but I'm more sure about him than I am with Yamato. There's no use making a hipster vote because we need to lynch someone today. A no-lynch would only leave us with more questions and give the scum a huge victory for D1.

It's not because he is pushing a different players, it's because he is pushing a new read so close to the deadline. It reeks of trying to save Nisani from being lynched.

@Hapa: I think you are putting way too much faith in Nisani's meta. I went and read his vote on Acro and there's not much beside him quoting one scummy sentence and saying that Acro doesn't have much else in his filter so he must be scum. His vote on prp is absolutely silly, and he has refused to give a reason. Just like you shouldn't build cases solely on metas, you shouldn't build defenses solely on metas.

Fuck me I need to do a podcast on meta. All y'alls have no idea what you're doing when it comes to it.

Meta is fantastic for highlight broad/general differences in mentality. In Nisani's case, he has very two different mindsets between his scum and town games wiht a HUGE sample-size to back it up.

While he's a lurker in all his games, his town games are markedly more productive. He pushes cases, and tries to scumhunt, and all his posts are towards an objective purpose. When he's scum, he's "chatty," "trolly," and barely contributes.

And this is consistent over MANY MANY of his games. 4 scumgames, and many more town games.

Nisani plays very similarly as scum and town, and according to you, I know him well. This knowledge of him allows me to determine whether he is scum or town more efficiently than others (hint: you) who seem to be extremely confused

Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play?

As town, Nisani generally uses very logical analysis to determine who is scum and will stay confident on said player. As scum, Nisani is unsure and just tries to win favor of the town without being too aggressive, which is what he has done in this game.

ok you're scum

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 20:20 GMT

#1104

On March 28 2013 05:19 sinani206 wrote:

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On March 28 2013 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:16 sinani206 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:

On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum??

You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure?

Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play?

ok you're scum

ok why

Because your extreme overgeneralization of my playstyle is total horseshit.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 20:22 GMT

#1111

On March 28 2013 05:21 sinani206 wrote:

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On March 28 2013 05:20 Nisani201 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:19 sinani206 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:16 sinani206 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:13 marvellosity wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:11 sinani206 wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:05 Hapahauli wrote:

On March 28 2013 05:02 cDgCorazon wrote:

On March 28 2013 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]

Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum??

You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure?

Could you tell me what distinguishes his scum and townplay then? What are you seeing here that you see in his usual mafia play but not his town play?

ok you're scum

ok why

Because your extreme overgeneralization of my playstyle is total horseshit.

And that makes me mafia?

Yes, I think you're deliberately lying.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 21:01 GMT

#1143

OK what is the current votecount?

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 21:11 GMT

#1157

damnit

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 21:25 GMT

#1195

Well sinani is still a liar so he's the best lynch for now.

##Unvote
##Vote sinani206

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 21:32 GMT

#1208

I don't really know who else is mafia. I was thinking Cora was suspicious but he's probably not scum.

I'll have to look things over.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 21:53 GMT

#1241

On March 28 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:

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The thing is with sinani. Look at his last 3 mafia games on the database. He basically doesn't post.

He's already posted more in this game than any of those 3 games where he was potentially alive for days. I'm not seeing it.

Just because he's posting more in this game or "cares more" about this game doesn't mean he's scum/town. He has been apathetic as both scum and town, so that's indicative of nothing.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 27 2013 22:00 GMT

#1264

i think i'm gonna do this shadowing thing because i clearly have no idea what the fuck i'm doing

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