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InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 27 2013 06:45 GMT
#801
what the fuck?

why would scum dayvig him?
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 27 2013 06:45 GMT
#802
On March 27 2013 15:45 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
what the fuck?

why would scum dayvig him?


Why do you assume it was a scum dayvig?
Grubby's #1 Fan
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 27 2013 06:46 GMT
#803
The overwhelming consensus is against town dayvigs shooting on day 1.

Looks like a blue snipe to me, honestly.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#804
On March 27 2013 15:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
You guys are going from town games and saying it's somewhat different, when I'm going from a scum game and showing how it is ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.

Seriously.

One scum game does not a scum meta make. Just like one town game does not a town meta make. I'm only giving you quotes specifically from Nomination because YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I can go link other town prplhz quotes to back me up if you want.

And, your point completely falls apart when you look at other scum prplhz games. Hell, look at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925 and compare it with LIX. They don't look alike.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 27 2013 06:49 GMT
#805
On March 27 2013 15:46 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
The overwhelming consensus is against town dayvigs shooting on day 1.

Looks like a blue snipe to me, honestly.


So you never liked to follow the overwhelming consensus? Just like you shot Kei in Personality?
Grubby's #1 Fan
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 27 2013 06:51 GMT
#806
On March 27 2013 15:49 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 15:46 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
The overwhelming consensus is against town dayvigs shooting on day 1.

Looks like a blue snipe to me, honestly.


So you never liked to follow the overwhelming consensus? Just like you shot Kei in Personality?

:o

I wasn't in personality.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 27 2013 06:51 GMT
#807
On March 27 2013 15:47 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 15:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
You guys are going from town games and saying it's somewhat different, when I'm going from a scum game and showing how it is ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.

Seriously.

One scum game does not a scum meta make. Just like one town game does not a town meta make. I'm only giving you quotes specifically from Nomination because YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I can go link other town prplhz quotes to back me up if you want.

And, your point completely falls apart when you look at other scum prplhz games. Hell, look at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925 and compare it with LIX. They don't look alike.

It looks the fucking same.

Defending himself, stupid policy lynch idea, etc. Like, can you even read?

FROM GSL:

On September 05 2012 07:26 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 07:13 marvellosity wrote:
na I like to make you bitches work for it

day1 policy lynch imo


On September 06 2012 06:09 prplhz wrote:
@Risen

Could you please tell me why you are voting me? Your explanation appears to be some metaphor that doesn't make any sense to me.


On September 06 2012 06:31 prplhz wrote:
Fuck it.

I can't believe that Risen can be serious about this. It's three posts into the game and the two posts before me were nonsense. He is actually trying to make a full case on me and I just can't believe he is serious about this. No benefit of the dumb here.

Contrast this with his first vote in his latest game (clink). It's a pressure vote for someone who made a dumb vote but it's a while into the game and it's got more of a "whim" feeling about it. This looks a lot more careful but [u]we're three dumb posts into the game. I just can't believe this.

##Vote Risen
[/url]

FROM LIX:

On January 20 2013 10:43 prplhz wrote:
i am running for mayor

i will lynch chezinu

that's non negotiable

@Vivax Why are you running for mayor? All you say is "I might do this, I might do that, I don't like scum, vote for me." and it seems like you don't know why you are running for mayor either. Why would we put you into office over these vets that you're not going to lynch because of how valuable they are to town?


On January 21 2013 04:53 prplhz wrote:
@DearestSnot I don't like the idea of lynching me. Why do you want to lynch me?


On January 21 2013 09:47 prplhz wrote:
when no one has posted chezinu is clearly the best lynch. the guy is a lunatic in more ways than i care to know about and most importantly, he never seems very occupied with anything but himself and his lunacy and this makes for bad reads on him. if you don't want to get read then i believe it's a lot harder to play with you and chezinu is one of these (maybe the only one).

why would i "delurk" when you call me out but not when sandroba called me out? that makes no sense, sandroba is SANDROBA and you're just some german with a low post count. it makes a lot more sense that i was just around at that particular time especially considering that it was around 6pm iirc.

no i'm not worrying too much about who to lynch right now. i read gonzaw and he seems like a perfectly good mayor candidate to me and the scum reads i have are pretty i'm not sure about them at all. that's why i asked who he wanted to lynch, so i could read up on that person. i don't see the JX thing that sandro sees.

i don't really care for you irrationally going for me because i seem to recall that you do that i most of your games. i think it's really weird that you're not spamming more though but maybe that's because you were smurfing and you didn't want to play like you usually do, you picked it up after you revealed yourself.


Looks like a fucking scum meta to me!
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 27 2013 06:52 GMT
#808
Oh fuck it I can't remember shit anymore. Yamato shot someone in Personality with a dayvig on D1.
Grubby's #1 Fan
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 27 2013 06:54 GMT
#809
OK, Nisani is scum.

He's been using soft reads all game to make it look like he's contributing, saying people "look" or "feel" some way or another. He uses words like "possible" and "likely", phrases like "not really."
Asking others useless questions to fill up his posts.

Nisani is not acting as a townie should ask. He is hesitant and incomplete in his "analysis" and has been trying to deter discussion (here and here).

Not to mention voting prplhz with no reasoning and only 2 sentences mentioning him, asking for a vote count before voting.

Nisani's play is not townlike. There are no third parties. Therefore he is scum.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 27 2013 06:54 GMT
#810
oh yeah ##Vote: Nisani201
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 27 2013 06:55 GMT
#811
oh wow vig kill while i was typing
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 27 2013 06:57 GMT
#812
On March 27 2013 15:54 sinani206 wrote:
OK, Nisani is scum.

He's been using soft reads all game to make it look like he's contributing, saying people "look" or "feel" some way or another. He uses words like "possible" and "likely", phrases like "not really."
Asking others useless questions to fill up his posts.

Nisani is not acting as a townie should ask. He is hesitant and incomplete in his "analysis" and has been trying to deter discussion (here and here).

Not to mention voting prplhz with no reasoning and only 2 sentences mentioning him, asking for a vote count before voting.

Nisani's play is not townlike. There are no third parties. Therefore he is scum.


Thanks for talking about something that we were not talking about.

I'd like to ask you how Nisani's play is different from Rayn's (partial), prp's, and Yamato's? The reasons you give for calling Nisani scum are really generic and are blanket terms that covers multiple people this game.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 27 2013 06:57 GMT
#813
On March 27 2013 15:51 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 15:47 Keirathi wrote:
On March 27 2013 15:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
You guys are going from town games and saying it's somewhat different, when I'm going from a scum game and showing how it is ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.

Seriously.

One scum game does not a scum meta make. Just like one town game does not a town meta make. I'm only giving you quotes specifically from Nomination because YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I can go link other town prplhz quotes to back me up if you want.

And, your point completely falls apart when you look at other scum prplhz games. Hell, look at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925 and compare it with LIX. They don't look alike.

It looks the fucking same.

Defending himself, stupid policy lynch idea, etc. Like, can you even read?

FROM GSL:

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 07:26 prplhz wrote:
On September 05 2012 07:13 marvellosity wrote:
na I like to make you bitches work for it

day1 policy lynch imo


Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:09 prplhz wrote:
@Risen

Could you please tell me why you are voting me? Your explanation appears to be some metaphor that doesn't make any sense to me.


Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:31 prplhz wrote:
Fuck it.

I can't believe that Risen can be serious about this. It's three posts into the game and the two posts before me were nonsense. He is actually trying to make a full case on me and I just can't believe he is serious about this. No benefit of the dumb here.

Contrast this with his first vote in his latest game (clink). It's a pressure vote for someone who made a dumb vote but it's a while into the game and it's got more of a "whim" feeling about it. This looks a lot more careful but [u]we're three dumb posts into the game. I just can't believe this.

##Vote Risen


FROM LIX:

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 10:43 prplhz wrote:
i am running for mayor

i will lynch chezinu

that's non negotiable

@Vivax Why are you running for mayor? All you say is "I might do this, I might do that, I don't like scum, vote for me." and it seems like you don't know why you are running for mayor either. Why would we put you into office over these vets that you're not going to lynch because of how valuable they are to town?


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 04:53 prplhz wrote:
@DearestSnot I don't like the idea of lynching me. Why do you want to lynch me?


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:47 prplhz wrote:
when no one has posted chezinu is clearly the best lynch. the guy is a lunatic in more ways than i care to know about and most importantly, he never seems very occupied with anything but himself and his lunacy and this makes for bad reads on him. if you don't want to get read then i believe it's a lot harder to play with you and chezinu is one of these (maybe the only one).

why would i "delurk" when you call me out but not when sandroba called me out? that makes no sense, sandroba is SANDROBA and you're just some german with a low post count. it makes a lot more sense that i was just around at that particular time especially considering that it was around 6pm iirc.

no i'm not worrying too much about who to lynch right now. i read gonzaw and he seems like a perfectly good mayor candidate to me and the scum reads i have are pretty i'm not sure about them at all. that's why i asked who he wanted to lynch, so i could read up on that person. i don't see the JX thing that sandro sees.

i don't really care for you irrationally going for me because i seem to recall that you do that i most of your games. i think it's really weird that you're not spamming more though but maybe that's because you were smurfing and you didn't want to play like you usually do, you picked it up after you revealed yourself.


Looks like a fucking scum meta to me!
[/url]
Are you fucking serious?

For one: that "policy lynch" you talked about WAS BEFORE THE FUCKING GAME EVEN STARTED.

So basically your town read on prplhz boils down to "defends himself when scum".

Quit misusing meta. I'm done with this conversation.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
March 27 2013 07:01 GMT
#814
On March 27 2013 15:51 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 15:47 Keirathi wrote:
On March 27 2013 15:43 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
You guys are going from town games and saying it's somewhat different, when I'm going from a scum game and showing how it is ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.

Seriously.

One scum game does not a scum meta make. Just like one town game does not a town meta make. I'm only giving you quotes specifically from Nomination because YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I can go link other town prplhz quotes to back me up if you want.

And, your point completely falls apart when you look at other scum prplhz games. Hell, look at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365925 and compare it with LIX. They don't look alike.

It looks the fucking same.

Defending himself, stupid policy lynch idea, etc. Like, can you even read?

FROM GSL:

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 07:26 prplhz wrote:
On September 05 2012 07:13 marvellosity wrote:
na I like to make you bitches work for it

day1 policy lynch imo


Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:09 prplhz wrote:
@Risen

Could you please tell me why you are voting me? Your explanation appears to be some metaphor that doesn't make any sense to me.


Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:31 prplhz wrote:
Fuck it.

I can't believe that Risen can be serious about this. It's three posts into the game and the two posts before me were nonsense. He is actually trying to make a full case on me and I just can't believe he is serious about this. No benefit of the dumb here.

Contrast this with his first vote in his latest game (clink). It's a pressure vote for someone who made a dumb vote but it's a while into the game and it's got more of a "whim" feeling about it. This looks a lot more careful but [u]we're three dumb posts into the game. I just can't believe this.

##Vote Risen


FROM LIX:

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 10:43 prplhz wrote:
i am running for mayor

i will lynch chezinu

that's non negotiable

@Vivax Why are you running for mayor? All you say is "I might do this, I might do that, I don't like scum, vote for me." and it seems like you don't know why you are running for mayor either. Why would we put you into office over these vets that you're not going to lynch because of how valuable they are to town?


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 04:53 prplhz wrote:
@DearestSnot I don't like the idea of lynching me. Why do you want to lynch me?


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:47 prplhz wrote:
when no one has posted chezinu is clearly the best lynch. the guy is a lunatic in more ways than i care to know about and most importantly, he never seems very occupied with anything but himself and his lunacy and this makes for bad reads on him. if you don't want to get read then i believe it's a lot harder to play with you and chezinu is one of these (maybe the only one).

why would i "delurk" when you call me out but not when sandroba called me out? that makes no sense, sandroba is SANDROBA and you're just some german with a low post count. it makes a lot more sense that i was just around at that particular time especially considering that it was around 6pm iirc.

no i'm not worrying too much about who to lynch right now. i read gonzaw and he seems like a perfectly good mayor candidate to me and the scum reads i have are pretty i'm not sure about them at all. that's why i asked who he wanted to lynch, so i could read up on that person. i don't see the JX thing that sandro sees.

i don't really care for you irrationally going for me because i seem to recall that you do that i most of your games. i think it's really weird that you're not spamming more though but maybe that's because you were smurfing and you didn't want to play like you usually do, you picked it up after you revealed yourself.


Looks like a fucking scum meta to me!
[/url]

k, using a little meta is fine, but not for your whole argument.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 27 2013 07:01 GMT
#815
Marv says it better:

On March 26 2013 10:04 marvellosity wrote:
Here's a post I made in LIX, s&b:

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:46 FiveTouch wrote:

Ok, I can roll with this read. I looked up two of his recent town-games, and in one he lurked and got lynched Day 1 (Mad Men Mafia). In both games (Rock Band, Mad Men) he opened up by asking people to consolidate and not spam, whereas in his mafia games he opens in a more trolly style - in Dwarf he came in laughing that he hadn't read the thread, in Normal mini mafia 2 he spammed votes down. Similar with GSL Open.

InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 27 2013 07:03 GMT
#816
I'm telling them, the alignment indicative stuff prplhz does as mafia is not present in this game so far. They argue it's "different" from his town games, but that is nitpicking IMO.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 27 2013 07:09 GMT
#817
Anyway, I'm going to bed. When I wake up tomorrow, I'm going to figure out who out of the people I suspect is actually the best lynch.

I will say, I like the Nisani case. I said it before, dude is just lurking while we argue about everyone else.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 07:21 GMT
#818
This is the last I'll say about Prplhz for the night.

I can say many things about town-prplhz's meta, but it's NOT objectively scummy. He tries to contribute, displays a clear attatchment to the thread, and is pretty clear about his reads.

This game is NOT that. Prplhz's play is extremely objectively scummy. He soft-pushes multiple people for vauge/unstated reasons and has adopted a strategy of "poking" other players with short questions rather than contributing any analysis.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 27 2013 07:24 GMT
#819
And as a last-last word:

Meta is best used to describe broad, conceptual, and glaring differences in someone's play. When you start getting into specificity, meta gets woefully inaccurate because of the natural deviations and differences in how players post in different games and circumstances.

In this case, prplhz is playing an objectively scummy game, and his overarching meta of being "detatched" from the thread as scum holds very true.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 09:34 GMT
#820
Hapa you are reading that quote very wrongly.
Chill the fuck out.

And let Prp respond whatever.


He says that if sinani thinks that Palmar is pushing a bad case, why does he not care about Palmar?

Also I want to lynch Palmar and Acro mainly, at this point.



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