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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 14:51 GMT
#896
On March 27 2013 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want to lynch OO or Oats. OO for reasons i stated earlier in the game and his behaviour after that (don't worry, i'll answer your case when i have more time). Oats for not having a clear train of thought for the whole game. He does another 180 out of the blue. Who can figure out where?

As for the day-vig. I see no scum motivation behind the shot because imo mafia would have shot like anyone else than Grack. Only reason i could think of is if they want to cast doubt on Palmar (assuming Palmar is town) and that's too much WIFOM in my eyes.


How is my Palmar read 180?
I 180 acro. yes.
Why is 180ing scummy?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 15:45 GMT
#931
Also this nice Palmar irks me.

People with experience with Palmar, does he get nice when people suspect him as town?
Seems really weird.

Rayn I thought about the shot, made more sense to come from town.
Anyway, I 180 all the time, hehe get used to it
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 16:03 GMT
#933
Dudes.
WTF do you see that is wrong with my Palmar case that makes you not want to lynch him?

Especially since after that,, he tried to get me to go onto other people rather than him, saying that I wont be able to lynch him.
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 27 2013 22:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
He was wrong about Grack and I was right.
That should not happen.

He pushes Grack 100% day 1, like when he is in the thread, thats basically most of what he talks about aside from smurfs bad case and stuff surrounding that.
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

Really fucking weird post. Its just weird. Like what.

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 09:36 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

I would not consider it fair, no. I also see no reason to retract that claim. Why are you bluefishing?

That question is so stupid, just like your claim. Since I think you're town, yet you're playing like an idiot I'm just going to ignore you for the rest of the game since you're clearly not capable of playing well.

I know Palmar is arrogent but what in the world is this. Day 1 is not over. Way overreaction.
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?
A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


Ok so Grack was basically the only thing Palmar pushed day 1 right?
This reads like Palmar wasnt sure/expected himself to find another read. Which isnt inline with his mentality before the dayvig.

So some scummy stuff about Palmar.

I dont see much point in putting down a vote at this time.
Do you?




Read it and comment.
Preferably vote.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 17:12 GMT
#947
How is Palmar town Marv?

Also extremely non accurate way of determining mislynch.
Nisani lynch is too easy.

Only me(im town) and Rayn(probably town) pushed any other candidate.
I dont see anything going on.
Like no one is really in favor of the Nisani lynch only going like
'Yeah he is scum, maybe'
I dont know, it doesnt sit right.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 17:36 GMT
#958
Wait.

Im confused.

Who wants to lynch Palmar?

No one.

Huh..
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 17:51 GMT
#962
Hapa can you explain why we are not lynching Palmar today, and if not today, then when do you want to lynch him?

Do you see anything townie about his play?
Do you see anything scummy about his play?

What do you think about his suspicions of marv considering Marv is probably town?
Also notice the fact that his list is basically echoing town sentiment.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 17:56 GMT
#965
On March 28 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hapa can you explain why we are not lynching Palmar today, and if not today, then when do you want to lynch him?

Do you see anything townie about his play?
Do you see anything scummy about his play?

What do you think about his suspicions of marv considering Marv is probably town?
Also notice the fact that his list is basically echoing town sentiment.


no, it isn't. Corazon and sinani aren't echoing town sentiment at all.

Yeah
those are lynchbait.

I dont know, he apparently has 5 reads but doesnt explain any of them, and just a while earlier he said that he had nothing and was still deciding who to push.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 18:00 GMT
#970
On March 28 2013 02:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hapa can you explain why we are not lynching Palmar today, and if not today, then when do you want to lynch him?

Do you see anything townie about his play?
Do you see anything scummy about his play?

What do you think about his suspicions of marv considering Marv is probably town?
Also notice the fact that his list is basically echoing town sentiment.


Firstly, I'm leaning scum on Marv. His play is very "off" on this Day 1. Not enough for me to justify lynching him, but enough for me to trust him.

Secondly Palmar is very likely town. He's showing much more interest in this game than I've ever really seen him put into a game as scum. Just because he got the Grack wrong (which was completely reasonable), I don't see how he's scum. Also as scum, why would he shoot the guy he was visciously trying to mislynch (and he would have likely suceeded too)?

If you still don't trust Palmar is town, he's always shot really early as town anyway. If he's alive after a few cycles, that's when we look into him. Otherwise, nothing about his gameplay suggests that he's "obv-scum" or whatever you're spouting.

What do you expect Marv's play to look like?
What is different from this game and Hydra/Duel/MTG?

Wait what? Did Palmar outright claim the hit?

Much more interest means being a dick day 1 and pushing Grack wrongly, then being really really nice day 2, and not pushing ANYTHING. Right.

Do you still think Prp is scum?
I guess so.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 18:17 GMT
#974
Im saying scum didnt shoot Grack.
I thought everyone agreed.

What.
lol Hapa.

Prp tends to disappear as town too.
In duel he disappeared in day 3 and got mislynched for his troubles.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 18:18 GMT
#975
On March 28 2013 03:17 Oatsmaster wrote:


Prp tends to disappear as town too.
In duel he disappeared in day 3 and got mislynched for his troubles.

Of course I mean that prp disappearing isnt alignment indicative.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 18:21 GMT
#977
On March 28 2013 03:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 03:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im saying scum didnt shoot Grack.
I thought everyone agreed.


Huh? Then where's the claim?

Day-vigi's almost always claim right before or after a shot.

Show nested quote +
Prp tends to disappear as town too.
In duel he disappeared in day 3 and got mislynched for his troubles.


Yes, but he's also scummy with or without the disappearance.

Admittedly he's improved a bit while I was away from the thread, but I can't tell how genuine that is without seeing him post more.


Because he probably has other powers and doesnt want to get nightkilled//rb.

Or he is embarrassed that he killed a townie.

Someone not claiming the kill is like the worst reason ever to call it a scum kill.
Why would scum kill Grack?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 18:42 GMT
#986
On March 28 2013 03:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 03:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im saying scum didnt shoot Grack.
I thought everyone agreed.


I mean fuck dude, this makes no sense at all with a scum-Palmar theory.
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Look at the above post.

In your story, "scum-Palmar" knows that Grack got shot by town, then goes ahead and assumes it's a scum-shot very early on? Why would scum so blatantly lie like that when they know its a lie?


Well generally people thought it was a scum shot at the time AFAIK. Then he 180s after I explain my 180.
I dont know, its just weird.
I wanna lynch palmar.
Im going keep saying this.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 19:36 GMT
#1033
KEIRATHI FOR LYNCH.

Im up for sheeping marv.

And up for a Sinani vote.

And not up for a nisani vote.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 19:38 GMT
#1037
On March 28 2013 04:36 cDgCorazon wrote:
Seriously Marv why do you bring Kei up 1.5 hours before the deadline? This would be a better case for D2. In all honesty it's too late now to get a majority behind it. Your efforts are going to be fruitless.


>.<

Who do you want to lynch?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 19:40 GMT
#1042
On March 28 2013 04:39 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 04:34 marvellosity wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:30 Keirathi wrote:
On March 28 2013 04:12 marvellosity wrote:
Beeteedubs, Keirathi is probably mafia.

What in the actual fuck?

Why aren't you voting for me? Why haven't you engaged me to try to figure out my alignment? Why are you just randomly throwing my name out?

I call bullshit.


This post also supports my case. Keirathi makes another post attacking me, and yet has still said nothing at all about prplhz.

"Another" post attacking you?

I've made 2 posts since I got to the computer this morning. One about Palmar that was on the last page before I started reading the 6 pages of posts since I went to sleep last night. And now this one about you. So, please, expand.

As far as prplhz, I just hadn't gotten around to writing up a post yet. I still contend that early game prplhz was everything that I know differentiates scum prplhz from town prplhz (lack of interest in the thread, little to no actual scumhunting/analysis, lack of care for town). Since he has come back, he is the completely opposite. I'm more than fine with his current play.

##Unvote


This post is really fucking 'flowy'

So now your proposed lynch fizzled out, WHAT NOW?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 19:41 GMT
#1043
Cora why is Nisani worse than sinani?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 19:50 GMT
#1047
Hapa you down for a keirathi lynch?

[b]##Vote: Keirathi
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 19:50 GMT
#1048
EBWOP:
##Unvote
##Vote: Keirathi
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 19:57 GMT
#1059
On March 28 2013 04:52 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
EBWOP:
##Unvote
##Vote: Keirathi

And why do YOU think I am scum. Sheeping marv is not a "reason". Give me a reason.


Why the fixation for reasons?


Basically cause you pushed prp for almost the whole of day 1, really hard, shutting down everyone who defended him then after like 3 posts from prp, and town sentiment shifting, you give up.
What.

Also the most important point, clearly, is that you have a 3 page filter. A 3 PAGE FILTER.


No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 19:58 GMT
#1060
On March 28 2013 04:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Marv and Oats:

Right now, adding in the Kei case is anti-consolidation. Because a lack of consolidation would mean a no-lynch, anti-consolidation would mean anti-town.

Why are you guys trying to add in another case to steal potential votes away from Nisani? To save your scumbuddy by forcing a no-lynch, yet at the same time looking like you are scum hunting?

It's not very hard to see through your ruse, Marv.

My town read on you = gone.


Why the fuck does marv pushing another player from you mean that he is scum??

You seem 100% sure that Nisani is scum. Why are you so sure?
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