• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:59
CEST 19:59
KST 02:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru0BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack0Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 37887 users

RED Team's Prize - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 15:45 GMT
#1415
Just wanna bump in and say that I don't really find InsertSmurfHere's defense of me weird. The various arguments against him have been how he was right when nobody else was (I remember that Palmar said that wherebugsgo was scum in some game just for that reason and then wherebugsgo put it in his signature because wherebugsgo was actually town). There's also the argument that he was very adamant in his defense of me at a relatively early point but if you look at this post it looks like he takes a certain pride in being able to discern my alignment (something I don't think anybody other than yamato77 and marvellosity would ever do).

Finally I'd like to point out that just about everything he said about me was, at least in my opinion, perfectly true. He wasn't just bullshitting, he was actually interpreting my posts really well and squeezed every little thing out of them that he could while not taking anything too far. Good analysis in my opinion. Would not lynch.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 15:48 GMT
#1417
This case on InsertSmurfHere is a stretch and everybody should look elsewhere.

@marvellosity What do you make of InsertSmurfHere's reluctance to drop his suspicions of two claimed masons?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 15:53 GMT
#1421
On March 29 2013 00:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 00:45 prplhz wrote:
Just wanna bump in and say that I don't really find InsertSmurfHere's defense of me weird. The various arguments against him have been how he was right when nobody else was (I remember that Palmar said that wherebugsgo was scum in some game just for that reason and then wherebugsgo put it in his signature because wherebugsgo was actually town). There's also the argument that he was very adamant in his defense of me at a relatively early point but if you look at this post it looks like he takes a certain pride in being able to discern my alignment (something I don't think anybody other than yamato77 and marvellosity would ever do).

Finally I'd like to point out that just about everything he said about me was, at least in my opinion, perfectly true. He wasn't just bullshitting, he was actually interpreting my posts really well and squeezed every little thing out of them that he could while not taking anything too far. Good analysis in my opinion. Would not lynch.


Correct/good analysis is super-fucking easy as mafia, sweetie.

Correct analysis obviously is, good analysis not so much and no matter what, good analysis should just about never be held against people.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 16:01 GMT
#1427
On March 29 2013 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
See my last post.

It's not the fact that he is potentially correct with the analysis, nor is it about whether the analysis in question is good. You're misrepresenting/not getting what people are getting at with this.

Considering the post is about you, you should ask yourself why *you* like it, but so many other players seem to have a problem with it. That's my little thought exercise for you ^_^

Because the only person who has read as much into my posts as InsertSmurfHere is me. I don't care that he was right when no one else was as long as he was right for the right reasons. Would you really have felt better about InsertSmurfHere if he had just jumped on me after Haparathi and Keihauli did?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 16:05 GMT
#1429
On March 29 2013 01:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 00:53 prplhz wrote:
On March 29 2013 00:48 marvellosity wrote:
On March 29 2013 00:45 prplhz wrote:
Just wanna bump in and say that I don't really find InsertSmurfHere's defense of me weird. The various arguments against him have been how he was right when nobody else was (I remember that Palmar said that wherebugsgo was scum in some game just for that reason and then wherebugsgo put it in his signature because wherebugsgo was actually town). There's also the argument that he was very adamant in his defense of me at a relatively early point but if you look at this post it looks like he takes a certain pride in being able to discern my alignment (something I don't think anybody other than yamato77 and marvellosity would ever do).

Finally I'd like to point out that just about everything he said about me was, at least in my opinion, perfectly true. He wasn't just bullshitting, he was actually interpreting my posts really well and squeezed every little thing out of them that he could while not taking anything too far. Good analysis in my opinion. Would not lynch.


Correct/good analysis is super-fucking easy as mafia, sweetie.

Correct analysis obviously is, good analysis not so much and no matter what, good analysis should just about never be held against people.


The argument myself and others are making is that yamatos defense of you is seemingly correct but not "good" due to how littl you had done at that point in the game.

I'm saying that the reason he was so adamant is because:

He was right and for the right reasons.
He takes a certain pride in being correct about me specifically.

That's perfectly alright for me.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#1522
On March 27 2013 09:09 strongandbig wrote:
Hey older peoples - (actually woah I'm pretty sure that other than Palmar, marv and I have been playing the longest of anyone here wtf. maybe acro? grack doesn't count cause he wasn't really playing this whole time)

but anyway older peoples like marv and acro - why is palmar talking so much on day 1? at first I was like wow palmar cares about this game guess he's town, but now i'm just sort of like wtf is going on. do you think he's just super town or what?

i might be wrong but i think sinani cohosted palmar's first game (which was also my first game)

okay back to reading
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 20:48 GMT
#1526
On March 29 2013 05:15 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 05:11 prplhz wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:09 strongandbig wrote:
Hey older peoples - (actually woah I'm pretty sure that other than Palmar, marv and I have been playing the longest of anyone here wtf. maybe acro? grack doesn't count cause he wasn't really playing this whole time)

but anyway older peoples like marv and acro - why is palmar talking so much on day 1? at first I was like wow palmar cares about this game guess he's town, but now i'm just sort of like wtf is going on. do you think he's just super town or what?

i might be wrong but i think sinani cohosted palmar's first game (which was also my first game)

okay back to reading


yeah i forgot you and sinani and nisani because you tend not to say many things.

well mostly that's true for them, idk why i forgot you. w/e

because you'd think this was my first game :/
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 20:55 GMT
#1528
Not strongandbig and not InsertSmurfHere. We can talk more after the flip.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 20:56 GMT
#1530
Happy birthday!
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 20:57 GMT
#1532
On March 29 2013 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 05:55 prplhz wrote:
Not strongandbig and not InsertSmurfHere. We can talk more after the flip.


How do you know I"ll be alive post-flip?

What answer are you looking for here exactly?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 21:03 GMT
#1536
On March 29 2013 05:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 05:57 prplhz wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:55 prplhz wrote:
Not strongandbig and not InsertSmurfHere. We can talk more after the flip.


How do you know I"ll be alive post-flip?

What answer are you looking for here exactly?


Point is, we dont' know who's going to die tonight. I have 1 hour before the deadline, and I want to figure out what you're thinking now in case I get shot.

I don't know. I just read up on strongandbig and but I don't think he's scum. I started with him because people are hating on him real bad and I want form my own opinion.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 21:05 GMT
#1539
On March 29 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 06:03 prplhz wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:57 prplhz wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 29 2013 05:55 prplhz wrote:
Not strongandbig and not InsertSmurfHere. We can talk more after the flip.


How do you know I"ll be alive post-flip?

What answer are you looking for here exactly?


Point is, we dont' know who's going to die tonight. I have 1 hour before the deadline, and I want to figure out what you're thinking now in case I get shot.

I don't know. I just read up on strongandbig and but I don't think he's scum. I started with him because people are hating on him real bad and I want form my own opinion.


Okay... so who are you suspicious of? You have literally no scum-reads to speak of.

That's right, I don't have a scum read I want to discuss in the thread right now. I might or might not have a scum read I don't want to discuss in the thread right now.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 21:08 GMT
#1543
On March 29 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, why do you think SnB is town? This feels a lot like his mafia-game in Chrono Trigger, where he couldn't sustain his activity past early D1.

I don't know about Chrono Trigger (I always avoid reading up on that game when it comes to meta because I don't understand the setup in the slightest) but I don't see him being less active in this game than in his other town games. On the other hand his posting has been a lot less meticulous than in his scum games and way more like his town game.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 21:10 GMT
#1546
On March 29 2013 06:08 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, why do you think SnB is town? This feels a lot like his mafia-game in Chrono Trigger, where he couldn't sustain his activity past early D1.

I don't know about Chrono Trigger (I always avoid reading up on that game when it comes to meta because I don't understand the setup in the slightest) but I don't see him being less active in this game than in his other town games. On the other hand his posting has been a lot less meticulous than in his scum games and way more like his town game.

I also think it's a little early to conclude anything about his supposed failing activity.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 21:15 GMT
#1551
On March 29 2013 06:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 06:10 prplhz wrote:
On March 29 2013 06:08 prplhz wrote:
On March 29 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, why do you think SnB is town? This feels a lot like his mafia-game in Chrono Trigger, where he couldn't sustain his activity past early D1.

I don't know about Chrono Trigger (I always avoid reading up on that game when it comes to meta because I don't understand the setup in the slightest) but I don't see him being less active in this game than in his other town games. On the other hand his posting has been a lot less meticulous than in his scum games and way more like his town game.

I also think it's a little early to conclude anything about his supposed failing activity.


Okay, defend ALL THE THINGS. That's cool and all, but who else would you suggest for a lynching? What reason could you possibly have to not disclose your reads right now?

I wouldn't suggest anybody for lynching. If I had a gun and I had to use it, I could probably come up with someone but luckily I don't.

Figure something out yourself to the second question. You want me to say that I'm not sure about my reads and I'd prefer to hold on to them for now? You want me to say that I'm a vigilante and I don't want to poke the scum I'm shooting in the thread before deadline? Should be pretty obvious that I don't want to talk about it so I'm not talking about it. No, asking me to talk about it is not going to change my mind.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 21:18 GMT
#1556
On March 29 2013 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote:
On March 29 2013 06:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 29 2013 06:10 prplhz wrote:
On March 29 2013 06:08 prplhz wrote:
On March 29 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, why do you think SnB is town? This feels a lot like his mafia-game in Chrono Trigger, where he couldn't sustain his activity past early D1.

I don't know about Chrono Trigger (I always avoid reading up on that game when it comes to meta because I don't understand the setup in the slightest) but I don't see him being less active in this game than in his other town games. On the other hand his posting has been a lot less meticulous than in his scum games and way more like his town game.

I also think it's a little early to conclude anything about his supposed failing activity.


Okay, defend ALL THE THINGS. That's cool and all, but who else would you suggest for a lynching? What reason could you possibly have to not disclose your reads right now?


maybe he's a DT and doesn't want his check to get framed?

Maybe he's scum and is going to kill you so he doesn't have to answer your question because we totally aren't going to make him answer this exact same stuff whether or not you're dead?

maybe he thinks scum will kill him if his reads are correct? (this one is unlikely)


With the DT thing, you should almost never check your scumreads or people you think you can get lynched. You should be checking null reads.

Whaddya think of our buddy prplhz anyway?

Do you think I'm scum Hapahauli?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 21:46 GMT
#1570
On March 29 2013 06:39 cDgCorazon wrote:
Just in case my next game is a TvT, I'm going to post my thoughts going into D2.

Obviously, my main target is Yamato. He's basically shitting up the thread with baseless accusations and meta cases and isn't actually scum hunting.

Here's the definition of "Projection" from Wikipedia:
+ Show Spoiler +

Projection: Projection is a primitive form of paranoia. Projection also reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the undesirable impulses or desires without becoming consciously aware of them; attributing one's own unacknowledged unacceptable/unwanted thoughts and emotions to another; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting". It is shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, feelings and impulses within oneself onto someone else, such that those same thoughts, feelings, beliefs and motivations are perceived as being possessed by the other.


Funny how that sums up Yamato's cases on me. I'll leave it at that.

I'm still a bit iffy on Marv, especially after the fact that he led the bandwagons on two townies (Kei and Nisani) and decided 2 hours before that Kei was scum. It's very interesting, but I can't see a town or scum motivation behind his actions. I'll keep an eye on him.

Last but not least is Palmar. Looking through his filter again, I found a lot of posts talking about town reads while he was tunneling Grack. He made a lot of town reads (at least 6-7), and did not give very much explanation on many of them. However, the other stumbling block with Palmar is Grack's kill. If Palmar was scum, why would he kill his tunnel and the person that his primary scumhunting was on? I could see him being town from that, but his other actions have me worried. His random flip-flopping between Nisani and Sinani was really sketch as well, and his D1 play just worries me.

Why exactly do you think that scum killed Grackaroni?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 22:20 GMT
#1620
How much KP does scum have?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 22:24 GMT
#1623
On March 29 2013 07:23 strongandbig wrote:
at least 2

What do you base this on?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 28 2013 23:06 GMT
#1645
Okay.

##Vote marvellosity
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 698
BRAT_OK 95
ProTech76
MindelVK 25
UpATreeSC 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 6262
Sea 3408
Mini 648
EffOrt 534
ggaemo 284
Stork 280
Nal_rA 207
actioN 133
Dewaltoss 112
Mong 58
[ Show more ]
Aegong 34
Movie 32
sSak 26
Backho 25
Sacsri 22
yabsab 13
Shine 10
Counter-Strike
fl0m6272
olofmeister3116
Stewie2K328
rGuardiaN91
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor170
Other Games
tarik_tv39567
gofns13307
singsing1439
Beastyqt690
FrodaN672
B2W.Neo559
Lowko248
XaKoH 170
Mew2King91
TKL 72
Trikslyr59
QueenE58
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream1581
StarCraft 2
angryscii 49
Other Games
BasetradeTV43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta18
• Reevou 3
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki26
• HerbMon 25
• Michael_bg 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4526
• masondota21360
League of Legends
• Nemesis5950
• Jankos1758
• TFBlade1110
Other Games
• imaqtpie649
• Shiphtur303
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
6h 1m
GSL Code S
15h 31m
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 8h
GSL Code S
1d 15h
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
SOOP
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Cheesadelphia
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.