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On March 27 2013 22:20 marvellosity wrote: It would be much better if you accepted the strength of the argument rather than arguing me off my scumread like you did in Clothes Mafia  Kind of unfair to blame for me changing your opinion  Also, I'm not smurfing this time so you know not to listen to me. | ||
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On March 28 2013 00:01 Palmar wrote: Did you read his posting so far? He's very clearly reading the thread and putting effort in his posts. Even if he is scum, which is a possibility (him realizing marv might be burned by the Personality mafia stuff and his response to my case on Grack are both somewhat strange), he is not playing scum you can catch without any information. I cannot say he isn't scum, but I can say I'm not lynching him right now. Well, actually you said in this post On March 27 2013 09:36 Palmar wrote: That question is so stupid, just like your claim. Since I think you're town, yet you're playing like an idiot I'm just going to ignore you for the rest of the game since you're clearly not capable of playing well. that you think he's town. So you can say that you think he is town but you cannot say that he isn't scum or what exactly are you saying? | ||
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On March 28 2013 00:07 marvellosity wrote: I'm going to answer for Palmar because this is silly. Very rarely are things binary in mafia. Having a town-read on someone doesn't mean you 100% think they're town. How about that Nisani meta you promised me? My problem is that in Palmar's reasonable for why Acrofales is town, he's actually spending more time explaining why he could be scum. I don't see what it is that you all see in Acrofales. I get that we're not lynching him today because he's reasonably active and there's probably nothing damning about him, but I'm still interested in why you actually all think he's so townie because I'm getting more of a Personality 2 feeling about him. | ||
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"I'm going to answer for Palmar" | ||
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I mean we can lynch him but I don't see why he should be scum. Gonna read into someone else. | ||
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On March 28 2013 02:01 Acrofales wrote: I don't disagree with your conclusion (obviously), but what happened in those three minutes to change your mind? Uh I read something in that old game, he didn't seem to sheep people and instead he actively did stuff on D1. He actually went against all thread opinion to go for his very own lynch candidate. I think Nisani201 is hard to read though. He plays similar as scum and as town and his filter usually isn't very long so it's hard to follow his thought process. I don't know, he could be scum. I'm not terribly convinced but I have nothing better right now. I don't like the InsertSmurfHere lynch. I think his defence of me against a rampaging Hapahauli/Keirathi duo looked good. | ||
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On March 28 2013 02:24 Hapahauli wrote: My original case has very little to do with meta (Yamato brought that up in your defense, but I obviously disagree with the comparison). The issue I have is your complete lack of contributions thusfar, and you spreading suspicion on multiple players in non-committal ways (soft-pushing). This, combined with your general lack of contribution this game makes you pretty darn scummy. No it doesn't. I agree that I hadn't contributed a lot, hopefully that will (or has) change(d). I have no idea about the "spreading suspicion" thing, I think that's all in your head. I remember once I got lynched for not asking questions, now I'm getting lynched for asking questions. Anyway, it's all in your head. I think I have the smallest filter in this game outside of the Insani90210s so that shouldn't be hard to go over things again. | ||
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Uh, last game I played with him. Normal Mini Mafia I I think. | ||
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On March 28 2013 02:38 Hapahauli wrote: But already here, this is complete bullshit. I thought that Acrofales was scum for the first long time so I asked Palmar for his opinion, but I wasn't really all that concerned with Palmar's opinion per se (because he looks townie enough to me already), I was worried about Acrofales alignment and why people thought he was town. Now tell me, how on earth is this spreading suspicion? Do you honestly believe that anybody did anything other than maybe take a harder look on Acrofales because of what I said here?Nisani201 and sinani206 have a history and the last time I played with either of them, I played with both of them (Normal Mini Mafia I) so I prodded him for his opinion on his pal. Maybe he had some extra information no one else knew about because of how they know each other outside of mafia. Again, this "spreading suspicion" is all in your head, pick out one single name from the playerlist who will think that sinani206 is more likely to be scum because of this question. You can't. It's a fucking question and it's absolutely nothing else.Again, you are making shit up. I am asking a scum read about why he thinks Nisani201 is scum because what he said in his initial case was "LYNCH ALL LIARS", nothing about Nisani201 being scum. How on earth is asking a person to expound on his own scum read, that I am sceptical towards, spreading suspicion? What the fuck?The spreading suspicion thing is in regard to your early-game questioning. I'm generally fine with questioning, but it's very scummy in the manner that you did it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403256¤tpage=36#720 Basically as I outlined here, you repeatedly spread suspicion on players without drawing any conclusion or analysis. On Acro... Okay, I can actually kind of see your point about the InsertSmurfHere suspicion and that's kind of true. I thought it was odd and I didn't mind that people knew about it. Originally I had written a lot more to InsertSmurfHere in this quote where I speculated on his identity but I decided that it wasn't all that important so I dropped it and just posted what I found weird: that there's someone who thinks he knows my alignment on D1 when I get lynched all the time regardless of alignment. And that is a little weird. Not only are your suspicions devoid of analysis, but you never follow up on them. You "poke" a player with a question, incite suspicion, and then that's the end of the issue. This is textbook scum-behavior really. I didn't follow up on my questions soon after I asked them in the thread. I generally don't do that, especially not when there's someone else in the thread that I'd rather like to lynch (Grackaroni). Your entire case is excessively speculative and you're wildly drawing conclusions from just about no evidence. Even though InsertSmurfHere showed you how to go about me, you didn't at any point reconsider even though my filter is very short and easy to reread. | ||
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On March 28 2013 03:24 Hapahauli wrote: ##Unvote I leik prplzh I'd would be pretty sweet and awesome if you could explain what made you change your mind. | ||
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On March 28 2013 03:33 Hapahauli wrote: I rather liked the last post, and you've been slowly improving overnight in terms of analysis. Combined with that is this lingering suspicion of InsertSmurfHere for his defense of you last night. Details will be disclosed shortly. You just read a rather big post and decided to unvote in less than one minute. Maybe you have 3rd grade reading level but in my opinion that's rather fast. You seemed very adamant about me yesterday (or whenever you made that case, like 14 hours ago). | ||
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