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Read past scum and town games please keir.
My point is that I look so different from LIX and newbie where I played scum, which is a metric you used to determine hapa's alignment.
As well as Im assuming hapa's activity is the one that makes it the best scum game he has every played by a fuck ton if he is scum, which he probably isnt. Im sure he can make similar posts as scum.
Again, the point is that I again, are way more engaged than in my scum games.
You missing that is really really bad Kier.
Really bad.
Really lazy too.
No Im telling you that that sentence is giving a TOWN read on prp. Not a townier than oats read, A TOWN READ.
Imagine if I wrote it, what would you think my read on Prp would be?
Its a question right? So you believe that scum prp wouldnt do it right? Isnt that a town/not scum read? Which I said earlier and you vehemently deined it.
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On April 02 2013 02:48 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 02:46 Keirathi wrote:On April 02 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote: how completely different he is from Newbie something and LIX If Hapa is scum this is literally the best game he has ever played And you cannot apply that to my play? And what, exactly, do you think is in your play that makes you so extremely townie? Because I'm looking in your filter and I can't find it. In fact, I find some weird things, like this: On March 26 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 26 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On top of him being stupid there is a strange contradiction in his behaviour towards s&b and smurf. Like how I want to lynch SnB for a bad case and not smurf? deal with it. Do you have town reads on both of them? If not, then why arent you asking me what is differerent instead of insinuating that I am scum. There are lots of other things. You unexplicably bad town read on marv, your soft-defending Smurf on multiple occasions, how "hard" you kept questioning/prodding Acro but never actually had a read on him. All those things point to you being scum, not town. On April 02 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Why would scum prplhz say that? It wasn't like he was in a particularly bad position at the time and needed to fake claim. How in the fucking world is this sentence not saying that you think that prp is town because of the reaction revolving around palmars death. I was asking you a question. It wasn't rhetorical. If you're so convinced that prplhz is scum, then tell me how it makes sense. I think prplhz is townier than you. If by some major fuckup, you do flip town, I would lynch prplhz. Don't forget that he was the first one to sheep Marv onto you, Kei.
And you feel the need to post this in the thread and not in the mason QT why?
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On April 02 2013 02:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read past scum and town games please keir.
My point is that I look so different from LIX and newbie where I played scum, which is a metric you used to determine hapa's alignment.
As well as Im assuming hapa's activity is the one that makes it the best scum game he has every played by a fuck ton if he is scum, which he probably isnt. Im sure he can make similar posts as scum.
Again, the point is that I again, are way more engaged than in my scum games.
You missing that is really really bad Kier.
Really bad.
Really lazy too.
No Im telling you that that sentence is giving a TOWN read on prp. Not a townier than oats read, A TOWN READ.
Imagine if I wrote it, what would you think my read on Prp would be?
Its a question right? So you believe that scum prp wouldnt do it right? Isnt that a town/not scum read? Which I said earlier and you vehemently deined it.
I haven't read your scum games. I haven't played with you as scum. I have said this before, but I almost never make meta reads for games that I wasn't a part of or intimately involved with, because meta is more than what was said, its about context and thread flow and sentiment.
So yes, I am ignoring your scum meta, because I just don't have time or patience to go spend hours reading entire games to get a feel for how you were playing.
And no, its not his activity that would make this the best scum game he has ever played. It's the fact that he's asking all the right questions, doing all the right analysis, and pushing all the right targets. His reads have agreed with mine for basically the entirety of the game except when he was pushing Sinani over Nisani after I claimed mason, and in hindsight it's very very likely that he was right there and I was wrong. (Although I wanted to lynch Smurf instead, but that wasn't happening, and I thought Nisani had a better chance of flipping scum than sinani). If Hapa is scum, he's literally hard bussed all of his teammates, which goes against everything I know about scum Hapa play.
And about prplhz, I obviously still think there is a chance that he is scum. I was asking a question that needs a damn good answer before I would ever consider lynching him before you, though. So I'm going to stop arguing about this with you, because I have no idea where you're going with it.
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Lets go with the why would scum oats do x.
Push town palmar day 1.
180 like 3 times or more
want a gun so badly/obviously.(ps I still really want a gun prp)
not fakeclaim blue.
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Ima sleep now, maybe ill be online in 5 hours, or be online in 19 hours.
Dont expect me to be online between 5 hours from now and 19 hours from now.
night babes.
Sleep well.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
There should be a way of basically ensuring we win, including killing all of Oats, prplhz, sinani, Smurf, rayn. See my notes spoilered below
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marv
Keirathi
strongandbig
Corazon
Hapahauli
sinani
Oats
rayn
Smurf
prplhz
7-3 lynch Smurf mafia
7-2
prplhz gives gun to rayn, kills him (and assume worst case scenario that rayn is town), mafia NKs
5-2
Keirathi
strongandbig
Corazon
Hapahauli
sinani
Oats
prplhz
Lynch sinani 5-1, NK 4-1
strondandbig
Corazon
Hapahauli
Oats
prplhz
Lynch both Oats and prplhz - victory.
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There's a flaw in your plan, but I kind of can't reveal it 
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 02 2013 03:31 Keirathi wrote:There's a flaw in your plan, but I kind of can't reveal it
Very useful.
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On April 02 2013 03:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 03:31 Keirathi wrote:There's a flaw in your plan, but I kind of can't reveal it Very useful.
I know.
But just trust me, it doesn't quite work out that nicely.
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That's a shame. It was so neat as well.
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Oh, in a bit of an alternative:
Why not have prplhz give a gun to one of you, S&B, Hapa (?) tonight. Then tomorrow night, the one of you that has the gun can shoot Oats. Prplhz gives rayn a gun and kills him.
That leaves only prplhz alive as "unconfirmed" on the last day.
* isclaimer: it's not perfect because mafia could kill the one of you that prplhz gives the gun to tonight. But 66% chance to game over.
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On April 02 2013 03:52 Keirathi wrote:Oh, in a bit of an alternative: Why not have prplhz give a gun to one of you, S&B, Hapa (?) tonight. Then tomorrow night, the one of you that has the gun can shoot Oats. Prplhz gives rayn a gun and kills him. That leaves only prplhz alive as "unconfirmed" on the last day. * isclaimer: it's not perfect because mafia could kill the one of you that prplhz gives the gun to tonight. But 66% chance to game over.
Yes, this is pretty reasonable.
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I won't move on to Instant Majority if I have any votes against it. There are still people who need to vote. I will not pm prod them because it is not my job to play the game.
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what if i kill one of you
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On April 02 2013 04:10 prplhz wrote:
what if i kill one of you
One of whom?
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How would that happen? Check how your role works with the host if you need to.
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no (useful) answer from kurumi
i can't really ask him if i can use my role on your role because that would confirm your role
tried to ask in a tricky way but he's a sneaky pole
why don't you ask if your role is considered vanilla or a power role?
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hypothetically, if a player's role description referred to "vanilla townies", would that mean "players whose role name is "vanilla townie"" or "player who doesn't have any powers"
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On April 02 2013 06:24 strongandbig wrote:
hypothetically, if a player's role description referred to "vanilla townies", would that mean "players whose role name is "vanilla townie"" or "player who doesn't have any powers"
If someone is Vanilla, he is vanilla and is counted so for every purpose. Just like being town means you are town.
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s&b, Kei, prplhz, Hapa etc, some of you about?
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