• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:27
CET 14:27
KST 22:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1396 users

RED Team's Prize - Page 120

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 118 119 120 121 122 153 Next
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:30 GMT
#2381
But he said he used that logic in giving Palmar the gun. Why does he not use the same logic here and assumes sinani can shoot?
table for two on a tv tray
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2013 23:35 GMT
#2382
I honestly have no idea. But I don't think it matters, either.

You check prplhz tonight. Prplhz gives a gun to sinani.

We have a mislynch to give anyways. Lynch Sinani -> Oatsmaster -> prplhz and we win.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#2383
What i am saying is prplhz either:
1) assumed Palmar could not shoot on N2 but somehow now assumes sinani can on N3 if he gave him the gun
2) gave out a KP to a possible scum!Palmar without further thinking on N1.

Either way i can't see how this is in anyway townie behaviour.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#2384
On April 01 2013 08:35 Keirathi wrote:
I honestly have no idea. But I don't think it matters, either.

You check prplhz tonight. Prplhz gives a gun to sinani.

We have a mislynch to give anyways. Lynch Sinani -> Oatsmaster -> prplhz and we win.

You are right but the fact that we have the game pretty much solved does not mean we should stop playing until the game is won.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#2385
On April 01 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is prplhz either:
1) assumed Palmar could not shoot on N2 but somehow now assumes sinani can on N3 if he gave him the gun
2) gave out a KP to a possible scum!Palmar without further thinking on N1.

Either way i can't see how this is in anyway townie behaviour.


You're mistaking suboptimal play for mafia play, methinks
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:45 GMT
#2386
On April 01 2013 08:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is prplhz either:
1) assumed Palmar could not shoot on N2 but somehow now assumes sinani can on N3 if he gave him the gun
2) gave out a KP to a possible scum!Palmar without further thinking on N1.

Either way i can't see how this is in anyway townie behaviour.


You're mistaking suboptimal play for mafia play, methinks

I know for example i myself have done many things this game that are suboptimal play. Like i was completely lost on N1, and when D2 started i took a full re-look at what happened on D1 and threw every read i had to the trash can because i was obviously on the wrong track regarding the whole game.

But i do not think this is suboptimal play. This is really bad play or mafia. I don't care if prplhz is right or wrong in his logic but the fact that he is suddenly using very different logic on a thing that could confirm him as town makes this very fishy.
table for two on a tv tray
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:48 GMT
#2387
i don't know if it was suboptimal or whatever but giving a gun to palmar was obviously not a good idea in hindsight. guess you'll have to convince yourself that i thought it was a decent idea n1 but when palmar flipped d2 i freaked and decided to play safe. i already told you why i thought it was a decent idea, had a townish read on palmar and i didn't think he was blue. the kill-him-n2-if-he-messes-up wasn't why i did it at all, it was just a little extra.

anyway it sucked when i saw palmar flip blue because maybe i did that and killing one of the best townies on n1 isn't really what i was hoping to do this game so when the opportunity to play it safe came up, i did just that.

giving the gun to someone who is 100% getting lynched tomorrow is the best idea unless:
1) i'm really sure he's vanilla scum AND there's someone i am really sure is vanilla townie and is going to make it to tomorrow OR there's someone i am really sure is blue scum
2) i'm really sure he's vanilla townie AND there's someone i am really sure is vanilla townie and is going to make it to tomorrow OR there's someone i am really sure is blue scum

so playing it safe is giving it to smurf.

also, in response to marv "suboptimal" and rayn "really bad", what would you have done n1?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:50 GMT
#2388
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#2389
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"




I probably wouldn't have used the ability night 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#2390
yea maybe but i was feeling frisky and i had a funny role and how many blues can there really be in a kurumi themed game?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:52 GMT
#2391
thinking about it, if i can give the gun to you and snb that could lead to very unfortunate scenarios where i would disbelief your role and 1v1 you.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:52 GMT
#2392
Probably used the power on noone if that's possible.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:53 GMT
#2393
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!
table for two on a tv tray
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2013 23:59 GMT
#2394
On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!

And if he doesn't flip blue, then (potentially) scum has an extra KP.

That would be terrible.

Playing it safe was the right move, like I said earlier.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:59 GMT
#2395
On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!


Yes, and you left a claimed mafia vote-rigger liar alive on a double lynch day with 2 mafia up for the lynch. Whatever thought process you're criticizing, it's a much less egregious sin than that I'm afraid.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:00 GMT
#2396
burn
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:02 GMT
#2397
i wouldn't know the rest of the scum team and playing it safe was a better idea than taking huge risks for flimsy evidence.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#2398
On April 01 2013 08:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!


Yes, and you left a claimed mafia vote-rigger liar alive on a double lynch day with 2 mafia up for the lynch. Whatever thought process you're criticizing, it's a much less egregious sin than that I'm afraid.

So you are saying that as i made a mistake i am not allowed to tell why i think people are scummy?
Fine, let's just sit and hold hands and see if we win or lose.
table for two on a tv tray
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#2399
it never even occurred to me that i could do that
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#2400
lets not hold hands this is a lot more fun
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Prev 1 118 119 120 121 122 153 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
Monday #66
WardiTV1037
TKL 175
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko369
TKL 175
BRAT_OK 105
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2440
Sea 2076
Soma 653
Mini 623
Larva 579
Stork 561
Light 517
GuemChi 500
firebathero 412
ggaemo 260
[ Show more ]
Snow 251
hero 228
Sharp 190
Killer 144
PianO 144
Rush 135
Pusan 79
Mong 78
sorry 72
Aegong 71
JYJ 69
Movie 57
ToSsGirL 54
Yoon 49
soO 40
910 24
Shinee 23
Terrorterran 20
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
zelot 17
yabsab 17
Sacsri 10
SilentControl 9
Bale 9
Dota 2
singsing5262
XcaliburYe791
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2440
x6flipin685
zeus492
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor176
Other Games
Fuzer 393
crisheroes330
RotterdaM211
oskar111
hiko108
Mew2King76
nookyyy 58
Happy36
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 76
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV496
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 33m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.