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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:30 GMT
#2381
But he said he used that logic in giving Palmar the gun. Why does he not use the same logic here and assumes sinani can shoot?
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2013 23:35 GMT
#2382
I honestly have no idea. But I don't think it matters, either.

You check prplhz tonight. Prplhz gives a gun to sinani.

We have a mislynch to give anyways. Lynch Sinani -> Oatsmaster -> prplhz and we win.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#2383
What i am saying is prplhz either:
1) assumed Palmar could not shoot on N2 but somehow now assumes sinani can on N3 if he gave him the gun
2) gave out a KP to a possible scum!Palmar without further thinking on N1.

Either way i can't see how this is in anyway townie behaviour.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#2384
On April 01 2013 08:35 Keirathi wrote:
I honestly have no idea. But I don't think it matters, either.

You check prplhz tonight. Prplhz gives a gun to sinani.

We have a mislynch to give anyways. Lynch Sinani -> Oatsmaster -> prplhz and we win.

You are right but the fact that we have the game pretty much solved does not mean we should stop playing until the game is won.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#2385
On April 01 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is prplhz either:
1) assumed Palmar could not shoot on N2 but somehow now assumes sinani can on N3 if he gave him the gun
2) gave out a KP to a possible scum!Palmar without further thinking on N1.

Either way i can't see how this is in anyway townie behaviour.


You're mistaking suboptimal play for mafia play, methinks
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:45 GMT
#2386
On April 01 2013 08:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i am saying is prplhz either:
1) assumed Palmar could not shoot on N2 but somehow now assumes sinani can on N3 if he gave him the gun
2) gave out a KP to a possible scum!Palmar without further thinking on N1.

Either way i can't see how this is in anyway townie behaviour.


You're mistaking suboptimal play for mafia play, methinks

I know for example i myself have done many things this game that are suboptimal play. Like i was completely lost on N1, and when D2 started i took a full re-look at what happened on D1 and threw every read i had to the trash can because i was obviously on the wrong track regarding the whole game.

But i do not think this is suboptimal play. This is really bad play or mafia. I don't care if prplhz is right or wrong in his logic but the fact that he is suddenly using very different logic on a thing that could confirm him as town makes this very fishy.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:48 GMT
#2387
i don't know if it was suboptimal or whatever but giving a gun to palmar was obviously not a good idea in hindsight. guess you'll have to convince yourself that i thought it was a decent idea n1 but when palmar flipped d2 i freaked and decided to play safe. i already told you why i thought it was a decent idea, had a townish read on palmar and i didn't think he was blue. the kill-him-n2-if-he-messes-up wasn't why i did it at all, it was just a little extra.

anyway it sucked when i saw palmar flip blue because maybe i did that and killing one of the best townies on n1 isn't really what i was hoping to do this game so when the opportunity to play it safe came up, i did just that.

giving the gun to someone who is 100% getting lynched tomorrow is the best idea unless:
1) i'm really sure he's vanilla scum AND there's someone i am really sure is vanilla townie and is going to make it to tomorrow OR there's someone i am really sure is blue scum
2) i'm really sure he's vanilla townie AND there's someone i am really sure is vanilla townie and is going to make it to tomorrow OR there's someone i am really sure is blue scum

so playing it safe is giving it to smurf.

also, in response to marv "suboptimal" and rayn "really bad", what would you have done n1?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:50 GMT
#2388
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#2389
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"




I probably wouldn't have used the ability night 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#2390
yea maybe but i was feeling frisky and i had a funny role and how many blues can there really be in a kurumi themed game?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 31 2013 23:52 GMT
#2391
thinking about it, if i can give the gun to you and snb that could lead to very unfortunate scenarios where i would disbelief your role and 1v1 you.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:52 GMT
#2392
Probably used the power on noone if that's possible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 31 2013 23:53 GMT
#2393
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!
table for two on a tv tray
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 31 2013 23:59 GMT
#2394
On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!

And if he doesn't flip blue, then (potentially) scum has an extra KP.

That would be terrible.

Playing it safe was the right move, like I said earlier.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 31 2013 23:59 GMT
#2395
On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!


Yes, and you left a claimed mafia vote-rigger liar alive on a double lynch day with 2 mafia up for the lynch. Whatever thought process you're criticizing, it's a much less egregious sin than that I'm afraid.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:00 GMT
#2396
burn
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:02 GMT
#2397
i wouldn't know the rest of the scum team and playing it safe was a better idea than taking huge risks for flimsy evidence.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#2398
On April 01 2013 08:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 01 2013 08:50 prplhz wrote:
also i'm sure you can find something more scummy about killing a townie blue palmar n1 than "why didn't you try to repeat it n2"


But the point is if sinani flipped blue by now you would know who the rest of the scumteam is!!


Yes, and you left a claimed mafia vote-rigger liar alive on a double lynch day with 2 mafia up for the lynch. Whatever thought process you're criticizing, it's a much less egregious sin than that I'm afraid.

So you are saying that as i made a mistake i am not allowed to tell why i think people are scummy?
Fine, let's just sit and hold hands and see if we win or lose.
table for two on a tv tray
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#2399
it never even occurred to me that i could do that
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 01 2013 00:04 GMT
#2400
lets not hold hands this is a lot more fun
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
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