EPTNewbie Mafia XXXIX - Page 11
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Rainbows
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
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Rainbows
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
Looking over fishgle's filter, he hasn't said a lot, but what he has said so far hasn't been good. Starts off with a suggestion that you are the cop. Maybe to see if someone would be dumb enough to blue claim or give hints on who the blue might be. Then he goes on to list all the lurkers we should be suspicious of, doesn't scumhunt, and gets upset about aggressive scumhunting behavior. Then he lurks. Pretty similar to virtu actually. As far as Raven, I thought he was generally trying to explain things in a clear and concise way. However, I'm not feeling as good about him as time passes by. I mean last game he was pretty on the ball with reads but this game he seems to be off. Obviously I think his read on me is poor based on one little comment I made. Mad that I drew attention to him? And his read on you just doesn't make any sense, as in my eyes you have been actively scumhunting so far. Meanwhile, he soft defends virtu and instead tries to draw everyone back to me and draw paralells. On March 23 2013 07:50 TheRavensName wrote: His case on Virtu seems more like a sheep onto rainbows and he seems sure of how a godfather acts when he hasn't played one with a godfather yet when we are not certain there even is one. I think he oculd have drawn Godfather himself personally. Here is his only mention of virtu. Given the fact that two people are suspicious of virtu right now and made cases, you would think he would have offered an opinion. Instead he just says I'm sheeping and avoids the issue entirely. Calls me out for talking about a godfather even though it was virtu who said that and I just didn't quote properly. So in my opinion virtu is still the most overt scum candidate so far for discouraging scumhunting and whining when he gets called out. I like to go for the most overt ones first. But if for some reason we need to consolidate votes I could probably vote for Raven too. And I'd like fishgle to post more. | ||
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
What's bothering me the most at the moment that the good activity level we had early on in the game has dropped to basically zero. virtu disappeared last night. Fishgle made a post about what we should do and then he went back to lurk mode after i called him out for his post. He isn't even following his own advice!! Krafla is MIA. nobodywonder disappeared when we had some good discussion on last night. JarJarDrinks posted his case on you and stopped doing anything after that. It's basically we four here discussing the same topics over and over again. Again, i would really recommend you to not make connection cases pre-flip. You can't know for sure what anyone will flip unless you are mafia. Townies can defend mafiosi, it's not uncommon at all, and vice versa. After someone flips you need to look for who accused/defended them and for what reasons. Being wrong in itself is not scummy. Being wrong for wrong reasons (or for reasons that do not make sense) however is (like i feel that's the case with Raven here). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
The thing about your reaction test i don't understand is this. If you do reaction tests, you should have some kinda purpose behind this. If you think people you are testing are mafia, you should already have some kind of a clue what you expect them to answer. I don't see what you were trying to achieve with your comment. What is it that you were trying to get out from JarJar & Raven? And why do that with a comment that doesn't make sense in the first place? | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
##vote: Frorgon I can see that it is unlikely I will get a lynch off of Ray, and I'm starting to view him more like an aggressive townie like rainbows the more this goes on. I'm siwtching my vote to Frorgon, basically because hes lurking pretty had and acting suspicious and non contributing when he actually is here (Via pushing connection cases off of nothing.) Truth be told, your reminding me of arctic, someone who would probably get away if he lurked a little more and only makes himself look bad whenever he posts. I haven't posted against V simply because I don't think hes scum. I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel like I should, but I don't feel like I should go after him if I don't feel hes an issue. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 24 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: What the hell do you mean by V? Virtu. I have a bad habbit of forgetting peoples names as I type them, so I put their first letter and sometimes forget to go back and fix it when I'm done. | ||
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
On March 24 2013 04:09 TheRavensName wrote: ##unvote Raynpelikoneet ##vote: Frorgon I can see that it is unlikely I will get a lynch off of Ray, and I'm starting to view him more like an aggressive townie like rainbows the more this goes on. I'm siwtching my vote to Frorgon, basically because hes lurking pretty had and acting suspicious and non contributing when he actually is here (Via pushing connection cases off of nothing.) Truth be told, your reminding me of arctic, someone who would probably get away if he lurked a little more and only makes himself look bad whenever he posts. I haven't posted against V simply because I don't think hes scum. I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel like I should, but I don't feel like I should go after him if I don't feel hes an issue. Holy shit this post screams of scum. "He's lurking pretty bad and acting suspicious and non contributing when he actually is here." Are you serious? THIS is an arctic style post. First of all, there are a lot of pretty bad lurkers right now. I don't even consider myself even slightly lurking. And "acting suspicious" but you didn't elaborate as to why? Lastly, you are still trying to avoid talking about virtu, now just making it completely obvious. "I don't think he's scum" isn't a good enough explanation. Basically you are switching to me because your case against ray didn't stick and there's another person voting for me. Congratulations, you are now the most obvious scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: TheRavensName | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
yea, I haven't been following my own advice. Woops. as for virtu, I really don't think there's any reason to vote for him. He has some vapid posts and then some angry defensive ones. Again, defending yourself doesn't make you guilty. Rainbow is tunneling too hard on virtu, and basically refuses to look at other options. I find that really odd. Virtu made 1 defensive post, in which he got clearly angry. And somehow it's gotten 2 votes on virtu, by himself and Frogron, who I think is also suspicious. Furthermore, he has strange bouts of language. "what does though thinkest of me?" ""Ahh! Yes! This fine TLer right here, he is advocating pro-town things!" "IF THIS IS YOUR PHILOSOPHY ON PLAYING TOWN, PLEASE LEAVE SIR" etc. Either he's normally that theatric, or it bubbles up whenever he bullshits. I think it's the latter. But the most suspicious to me is still rayn. He's been such a flurry of fingers that no one is looking at him (apart from Raven, I guess). Every time he has gotten called out, he carefully points a finger in a different direction. So, I still have my eye on you, rayn. But anyway. ##Vote:Rainbows | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On March 24 2013 05:29 Fishgle wrote: Rayn, can you clarify what you mean by "raven [could be wrong] for the wrong reasons"? To me, it seems like all he's done is defend himself, and that to me isn't scummy. Earlier i said this: I'm still keeping my vote on Raven. He's voting me for trying to figure out stuff (lol), and for changing my mind every 5 seconds (lie). He's also adding more fuel on me by saying i didn't confront Frorgon (which i did) and when i explained that he said i lack the conclusion (lie). Other than that he has done very litte. His other suspect is Frorgon but he doesn't seem to want to figure out where Frorgon's head is at. He says Frorgon is suspicious but he doesn't want to investigate in that matter further. Every other thing he has commented is "JarJar made a suspicious post but i don't think he is that suspicious". His play makes no sense from town point of view. If you can't find out where those things have happened, you are clearly not reading the thread. I'm not going to quote half of my & Raven's posts just because you are too lazy to read. But the most suspicious to me is still rayn. He's been such a flurry of fingers that no one is looking at him (apart from Raven, I guess). Every time he has gotten called out, he carefully points a finger in a different direction. So, I still have my eye on you, rayn. What do you mean by "pointing a finger in a different direction"? I'm trying to figure out who is mafia, something that you know, includes questioning people and telling what do you think of them and watching out how people react to different things. If you think that's suspicious then you do. I think that's what playing mafia is about. But anyway. ##Vote:Rainbows If i am the most suspicious person why are you voting for Rainbows instead? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
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Krafla
United Kingdom104 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Vote Count! All votes must be in the correct format to be counted. You are required to vote. Frorgon: (2) JarJarDrinks, TheRavensName TheRavensName (2): Raynpelikoneet, Frogon, Virtu (1): Rainbows, Rainbows (1): Fishgle Krafla (1): Krafla JarJarDrinks (0): Raynpelikoneet (0): Not Voting: (2) Virtu, Nobodywonder Currently, Frorgon is set to be lynched! 1.5 hours until lynch deadline 01:00 GMT (+00:00). Please let us know if I need to go back to Muggle math class, or if my counting spell is not functioning properly. Can't trust magic for everything! | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 24 2013 08:19 Krafla wrote: Crap, I haven't voted or read anything today (it's my birthday) and I'm just about to go to bed. Uhm I can vote for myself legally right so I don't get mod killed? I'll try and make it up tomorrow, sorry! ##Vote: Krafla The hell? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
##Unvote: TheRavensName ##Vote: Krafla | ||
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