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On March 19 2013 03:24 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 03:19 DoYouHas wrote:
- I am still confident in my zarepath read from day 1, but that has been rehashed enough already, and it seems fruitless to pursue that further until there is more content or until we get to day2.
I agree DYH Im up to p15 and my two strongest reads are: GoodKarma + zarepath zarepath already from his first 10 posts, is posting completely different to the 3-4 games I played with him in the past 1 to 2 months (he was town in all of them). 3rd read = weak is Vivax from his first post.. very odd reads, but will reevaluate as i read more of the thread.
On March 19 2013 03:09 Mocsta wrote:
Im only up to p13. but GoodKarma is scum yo
On March 19 2013 09:46 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 09:43 goodkarma wrote:
EBWOP:
If you think I'm scum make an actual case, and use your time more productively. For blatant scummy play like yours, there is no need for a case why do i need to convince YOU, you are scum. I pegged you as scum from the first 10 pages I read.. and now at page 43, your still scum.. its as clear as water. We must cleanse the town of this BadKarma
On March 19 2013 11:58 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 11:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 19 2013 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 19 2013 11:46 Mocsta wrote:On March 19 2013 11:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
No I thought I made it clear that it's the MANNER in which you're calling them out that I'm taking issue with. So wats ya point of "taking this issue" publicly. What is your purpose? TO MAKE YOU FUCKING SOTP ITONAGOAWINBA EORBINA OBNAQ AIOENB Q BQNPNTIO ABNW ANIRJBR aBUBN Yeah I could swear you just said something along the lines of you wanting to stop this...? But yeah Mocsta, this is shit play reminiscent of your end of day Hydra mafia scum shenanigans. I never thought I'd ask this, but where's the 26-page-filter Mocsta we've all come to know and love? I dont see how anything I have done is scummy.. u guys based way too much on post style which is easily changed do u think im trying to create chaos? cos that would be my inteniton as scum.. sit by idly and pretend im reading the thread unfortunately I am still on page 22... but I saw a shitty post from GK and called him out for it.. than zarepath made a shitty post and i called him otu for it... FACT: there posts were so shitty, id idnt need to read the thread to know they had a scummy vibe.. its classic scum.. big post that says nothing, or remains at a null conclusion If you think I am doing the same thing in my posts today.. then perhaps you need to stop playing mafia.. my intention was been pretty clear cut, blunt, and aggressive. And it all points towards hunting scum.
On March 19 2013 14:08 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 14:04 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 19 2013 14:00 Mocsta wrote:On March 19 2013 13:57 Wade Fell wrote:On March 19 2013 13:52 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 19 2013 13:45 Mocsta wrote:On March 19 2013 13:39 Wade Fell wrote:
As an aside, another reason I masoned GK is that I've interacted with him in QTs before when I coached him, and I knew I'd be able to get a perfect read on him from doing so, as well as help his scumhunting.
Coming in as a replacement. I noticed you keep trying to reenforce you know GK well cos you coached him I find, a one time admission of this is usually what a town player does. But you have done it repeatedly, leading to two conclusions (1) You hope you have town cred, and trying to make an appeal to popularity for GK to be town (2) You are establishing a minor "newbie" shroud over GK, essentially an additional appeal Considering I dont have a town read at all from GK... and factoring your coach comments above AND CONSIDERING AS WELL you're a much more meek and timid personality (comp. Mafia LX). I would bank you are both scum Sandroba said it best...Let me remind you. On March 16 2013 22:24 sandroba wrote:
BH is trying to emulate his previous behavior. Respond to this post BH, because it contains no ad hom attacks and raises points I'd like you to address. Why were you so bent on emulating your previous, confident play earlier on while your play since suggests a more cautious, reserved approach? I'm not emulating my confident play-- my play, if you don't count my blue actions, is utterly confident. Yes, my choice of mason targets was cautious, but I was unable to post as much as I'd like during D1 because TPS and sandro's cycles lined up. The fact of the matter is, I had more to gain and far less to lose from masoning GK than from masoning one of my scumreads, especially when those scumreads are TPS and Testsubject, both of whose intransigence would likely not translate well to a mason QT. Was GK a newbie, and probably easily impressioned by me? Sure, of course. But on the other hand, he's also a newbie who has been coached by me. He knows how I think and how I hunt scum. Of all the various newbies in this game to mason, GK is the most likely to figure me out if I am scum. Of all the various vets in this game to mason, Ve is the most ly likely to figure me out if I am scum. My blue actions are for discussion scumreads, and cautious, but if I were scum they'd be hideously risky. I'd really feel better if GK were here to talk also *nudge nudge* Course u do, it would be coordinated if GK was here. I dont like this BH.. this reads as a politician trying to sway me around "I had more to gain and far less to lose." Blah Blah Blah Town BH is Motherfucker.. i did this, its the right choice, dont question me Keep up those meek and timid speeches scumIf u want me to start pulling Mafia LX quotes and providing contrast I shall oblige... if u havnt forgotten (MilkSuckler- me) and you had epeen battles in LX.. and this is going radically different. Now that game I am town... this game im town That game you were town.. this game.. (well surely u can spot the difference) It wouldn't be coordinated though would it? I thought the mason 'connection' ends with each phase, meaning his connection now is with VE? If you look at his earlier posts defending GK he is trying to coordinate a defense there and sounds pretty confident aside from when GK basically leaves him in the lurch and doesn't show up. Which posts specifically lead you to believe he is acting rather than actually going through with 'motherfucker' BH, Mocsta? This will drop my credibility of attack. But in fairness. I am only familiar with the posts from 7->20 and 40 -> 47In those posts, BH is timid (in particular his opening).. im not aware of modkill threatens. So ima take a step back and re-evaluate P.S. the coordination wasnt in reference to mason QT lol
On March 19 2013 16:19 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 16:16 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 19 2013 16:14 Mocsta wrote:On March 19 2013 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
You have, I don't know how much of a vet GK is, Mr Wiggles, Mocsta.... THnx, but i am certianly not a vet.. check my profile. Started playing in the new year 2013 More so than me and most of the other 'newbies' named on his list, Mocsta. The list just looks to me like he's looking for easy scumreads to throw out there with minimal chance of being called out if he's wrong because they're either new/bad or lurky. I think you are takign the wrong approach. Dr.H i believe on the podcast is true advocate of RNG (with no host post-hoc balance).. hence. the scum team is just as likely being 5 vets and 5 newbies. . its not out of the question for 5 newbies to be his read. I think the right approach is to ask his insight to why those people are scummy.. he doesnt need a case to explain why.. just dot point aspects of play that dont sit right. Ascertain if he is being genuine with his reads, or taking the easy road. ( im still on page 20 lol so i cant do this pressure.. i can only comment on things happening in the thread live)
On March 20 2013 12:24 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 11:19 zarepath wrote:
If Ace is so amazing why hasn't he solved this game yet
And I think the butthurt isn't strong enough yet, Mocsta needs to make an appearance and hurt some butts YOLO I am ashamed to admit it.. but im still only up to page 22, been flat out @ work and real life. I can keep up with the dynamics happening since I joined, but to start considering who i want to build a case on, i need the context of Day1 (which is missing) Even though the game is low on post count.. im finding it hard to read, dunno why. *I must say* I didnt care for your approach to my questioning yesterday. yes I was overtly aggressive But you proceeded to not answer the question I wrote at the end. That response isnt scummy on its own... but considering I am sure you are aware that you are on my watch list; it is surprising the effort wasnt made to satiate my thirst for knowledge.
On March 20 2013 23:03 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 22:58 Vivax wrote:
WoS you seem to be tilting. Convince people about someone being a better lynch than you. If you roleclaim I will lynch you nontheless.
Mocsta another thing: During N1 and early D2 you were on zarepath calling him scummy about a lot of things (remember how he asked about the rolename?).
Now you seem to have lost track, what's your current read of zare? I havnt lost track honey i have reverted to a green read on zarepath actually i re-reading the game now; and though i still *abhor* his opener.. the following posts interacting with WoS for example are towny (And not because I think WoS is scum) its because he is calling out those ppl for the same thing I disliked and made notes about. I think keirathi was right, hes still newbie-ish town. Im only up to page 15 though  (I know.. its embarassing, but in short. so far, i dnot see zarepath as scummy anymore)
I'm intrigued by how often Mocsta claims he hasn't read the whole thread, but what's more intriguing is how his story on how much he's read keeps changing.
I find his repeated references to where he's at in the game very scummy - it's almost as if he's trying to push the idea in everyone's head that if he's wrong about someone he's accusing DON'T WORRY, he's only on page X so that could change.
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On March 21 2013 00:34 Mocsta wrote:Hi VE. yeah, if you noticed i said to DP. i tried to read the thread numerous times, and get bored each time. Not saying this to take the piss. but right now, im up to p18 Heres an idea.. if you think im scummy.. show me how what im pushing is scummy. & show me how my vote logic on WoS is scummy Otherwise, this is a pretty useless contribution. Yes, you have pointed out that I have not read past page 22. Well done.
I find your repeated insistence to remind the thread that you haven't read past page 22 scummy. The fact that you're pushing anyone from any kind of informed position at all having nto read 75% of the game is scummy.
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Ace I just woke up sir. And if it's something you found suspicious, why would that be "playing scum well"?
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Do you disagree with my assessment Ace?
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And "sheeping you onto Mocsta"? Did I even MENTION your suspicion of him or say I agree with ANYTHING you've said about Mocsta? I brought up my own point based on my own observations. Are you.....SCUM?!!?
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I'm up in the air with you DP. I don't like how everyone who accuses you just MUST be scum, but frankly none of that is actually enough for me to build a case on you. I'm not interested in lynching you today - that's about as far as my read of you goes. I think there are better targets.
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If you say so. Mafia still wanted me dead N1, if you think I'm scum vote for me.
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To which I said, "What a fucking horrible idea. You're an idiot if you do this"
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If that's your opinion then you should vote for me Mocsta. And try and convince others to do the same. Don't be skeert bro.
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The "Mirror" is a third party cult leader of some kind and he tried to recruit me last night. Everyone beware "The Mirror" - he is in our midst and he will try and convert you too.
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I'm not allowed to post logs. I said this already.
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VisceraEyes
Fuck it I accept. If I'm going to be ignored by most of the thread, I might as well punish them for it.
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The Mirror
Of course I have countermeasures for survival. I would not have been given such an arduous task if it were not. And it seems like you are perceptive enough to understand what I offer you.
Do not fret about the delay in notification. That seems to be ... a trend this game. I shall inform you that playing "townie" will be in your best interest, and will hardly conflict with the greater purpose you shall receive. Everything will be made ... crystal clear. A-haha.
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sciberbia you should probably give me the specifics of your role because you're essentially claiming 3rd party to me here. I have received no notification from DocH that my win condition has changed, so as far as I'm aware I still win with town. You see what sticky situation this puts me in.
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Ooohhhh you're good. You're REAL good.
Tell me how this arrangement works. Because I'm assuming that I am already a part of whatever you have planned considering the choice of whether to be masoned with you or not is mine.
You're representing "townie" super hard and scum are going to want to kill you. Does your role account for this?
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VisceraEyes
Too late you invited the wrong guy. I'm a compulsive claimer you see and have already revealed you to the thread. That would have been cool though.
No, if I keep surviving town would just lynch me. I'm of no use to you I'm afraid. But I may be of use to town. Thanks for the offer though! I'll tell you what: I'll give you until D4 to gather as many supporters as you can, then I reveal your purposes to town and we hunt you down.
That is, if I live that long :OOOOOOOOO
Unless you can convince me? If you have the power to give me what you say, surely you have a purpose in mind for bestowing it to me. If I were to...know that purpose?
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The Mirror
Welcome, VisceraEyes, to my humble abode.
I come to offer you a titillating proposition. I have powers. Oh so great powers. And it seems like you too have a great power. I want you to join me. I want you to employ you for my services, and in return I shall bestow upon you even greater power. Even, dare I say it, immortality.
"Surely you jest" you may think. But think closer again. I have already begun to recruit the brightest and crafty of minds. Town, mafia, these factions are child's play. These are just mere pawns in the greater power that is I, the Mirror.
I offer you an invitation to join me. It does not matter whether you herald town or scum.
If you are town, you have quite the powerful role. But dare I muse, it cannot be without limit? To you I offer an impregnable shield, one who will not falter during the night. Hide behind he and you can gain for yourself immortality.
If you are scum, then you will play the part of the double agent. Use your former teammates at your disposal. Manipulate the scum team to your own devices? To be numbered among the greats such as Keyser Söze, Mr. Orange, William "Billy" Costigan, Jr. or Staff Sgt. Colin Sullivan. Perhaps, to live out the dream that could have been Bureaucracy?
Of course if you are neither, you already know my purposes, and that you are but a step behind. Pressure me, threaten me, do as you wish, for I know it is all but a meaningless bluff.
My reach is infinite and it is not long that I will gather enough for my grand purposes. You may choose to join, you may choose to decline. What I offer you isn't employment ... but true freedom.
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VisceraEyes
I demand satisfaction, mystery mason! REVEAL YOURSELF!
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Interesting development. -.-
I suspected it was sciberbia based on the timing of the posting, but I don't think that's the case any longer. I told him I accept and immediately unmasoned him (I was told masoning with him was at my will) and came to the thread.
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Because it makes sense to accept to become a part of this third party entity and then bring it to the thread. LOL
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Thanks guys - I was worried that reading and thinking about this game while at work tonight was gonna get me fired. Now I don't have to! ^^
GL town.
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What Ace? Just kill me dude, I'm helping you! What's the problem?
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WHAT?! EVERYONE PRESENT IS LIKE "YEAH KILL VE BASED ON LOGIC THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!" WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? MY READS ARE EXPLICIT IN THE THREAD! I'VE PROVIDED REASONING! I OUTTED A THIRD PARTY CULT! WHAT MORE CAN I DO FOR TOWN?!
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On March 21 2013 02:40 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 02:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
What Ace? Just kill me dude, I'm helping you! What's the problem? I have no clue why you accepted being in the cult instead of just outting them.
I accepted and then brought them to the thread. I SAID I accept. ACTUALLY accepting would include NOT bringing it to the thread don't you think Ace? Huh? Don't you think that's part of the third party deal? NOT BRINGING IT TO THE FUCKING THREAD ACE?
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Could I not have left that line out if I actually accepted? Like I can't believe this idea is even feasible to town. Why would anyone think I actually accepted being brought into a cult IF I BRING IT TO THE THREAD AND OUT THAT IT EXISTS WHEN THERE'S BEEN NO INDICATION THAT IT EXISTS AT ALL PRIOR?!
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I'm NOT third party though that's what I'm saying. I think to become third party I would have had to stay masoned with him for longer. I broke communication immediately upon "accepting" because that was my supposition.
I got a PM saying I was masoned with "The Mirror" and given a QT. I tried to get them to speak for a bit then I outted the MASONING first. And after he finally responded, I tried to get info out of him. Since he was not forthcoming I decided that I was done with him and outted it to the thread.
That's IT. That's my explanation. If you believe that I'm ACTUALLY a part of a secret third party cult, and that I figured my best move was to OUT this secret third party cult to the thread WHEN NOBODY KNOWS IT EXISTS, then I can't do anything in my defense. Literally, there's nothing Ican do or say to change what you believe because it's already based on ludicrous reasoning.
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On March 21 2013 02:48 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Could I not have left that line out if I actually accepted? Like I can't believe this idea is even feasible to town. Why would anyone think I actually accepted being brought into a cult IF I BRING IT TO THE THREAD AND OUT THAT IT EXISTS WHEN THERE'S BEEN NO INDICATION THAT IT EXISTS AT ALL PRIOR?! I'm pretty sure you can't say "I accept" and be like lol just kidding yo. Come on lmao.
There were no MECHANICS involved. The PM stated that I can choose to not be masoned with "The Mirror" at any time I wish. So I PMed Doc and said the masoning is done. That's literally the only mechaninc involved in this masoning - that I'M in control of when the masoning is over.
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