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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 18 2013 03:07 GMT
#680
So i guess the goodkarma wagon is no more. In that case, i will vote for Greymist instead of zarepeth.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 18 2013 22:08 GMT
#817
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol
ill bear with it though, I'd like to claim a medic protect on me, just cause. I have a feeling mafia will gun me down first night.
GreYMisT not being scum is disappointing but it is honestly not surprising, though im having a hard time piecing information on his wagon together. Its safe to assume we will find majority of mafia, maybe even all of them, in the bunch that voted him because 1. easy as hell to sheep, 2. he is a forum veteran. 12 people voted for him, including me

RyuSuzaku, goodkarma, Vivax, geript, ThePeashooter, cosmicomics, Wade Fell, Mr. Wiggles, Kenpachi, zarepath, kitaman27, TestSubject893, WaveofShadow
Honestly, a hard group to figure out.
I'd like to assume that me and Ryu are not mafia lol.

kitaman is just not contributing as much as we'd like to did we not realize? He's as invisible as I am.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 18 2013 22:15 GMT
#819
^that's a really cool website
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 18 2013 22:56 GMT
#832
On March 19 2013 07:44 ThePeashooter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 07:08 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol
ill bear with it though, I'd like to claim a medic protect on me, just cause. I have a feeling mafia will gun me down first night.
GreYMisT not being scum is disappointing but it is honestly not surprising, though im having a hard time piecing information on his wagon together. Its safe to assume we will find majority of mafia, maybe even all of them, in the bunch that voted him because 1. easy as hell to sheep, 2. he is a forum veteran. 12 people voted for him, including me

RyuSuzaku, goodkarma, Vivax, geript, ThePeashooter, cosmicomics, Wade Fell, Mr. Wiggles, Kenpachi, zarepath, kitaman27, TestSubject893, WaveofShadow
Honestly, a hard group to figure out.
I'd like to assume that me and Ryu are not mafia lol.

kitaman is just not contributing as much as we'd like to did we not realize? He's as invisible as I am.

If anyone protects Kenpachi they are an idiot. How can you possibly think you are worth protecting? If the mafia killed you I would applaud them even if you were a jack of all trades. You have literally posted nothing of value, but you never do so that shouldn't be expected.

I forget again, why do you even play this game? You never say anything and never do anything except become an anchor on whatever team you are on.

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 07:20 Vivax wrote:
Also my scumreads still didn't provide reads on Zarepath they seem to not want to play transparently for town.

TPS didn't comment on the other reads I asked him for and he treated me aggressively.

I sense people being uncooperative or unmotivated to help town (which doesn't surprise me since I think they scum d'oh), I didn't ask them to do something hard.

If you want to see me being aggressive look above. I was nothing but nice to you so get out of this emotional state and learn to play the game. I gave you advice and you somehow keep interpreting it as a personal attack and I'm not giving you anymore leeway for English possibly being your second language.

now im really curious to know who you are
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 18 2013 22:58 GMT
#833
i shouldn't take you seriously cause you were on Coagulation's dick the entire game, yeah? So my medic request is still reasonable.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 20 2013 01:48 GMT
#1328
we're all kidding here, goodkarma is still scum. Pretty much, his defense relies on the fact that he's playing like his meta.
.. okay .. Day 1, its massively easy for you to fill in as yourself (somebody said this and i can testify but then, my testimonial isn't reliable.)
It only makes too much sense to me for him to be scum. if he isn't we figure out a lot about the alignments of all the players because right now, it's all over the place. The last 15 pages was just 1 large pressure fest and i believe we should boldly lynch goodkarma. Goodkarma was a hot topic and was taken seriously as a lynch candidate and was seriously defended by a good amount of players.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 20 2013 01:57 GMT
#1337
On March 20 2013 10:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 10:48 Kenpachi wrote:
we're all kidding here, goodkarma is still scum. Pretty much, his defense relies on the fact that he's playing like his meta.
.. okay .. Day 1, its massively easy for you to fill in as yourself (somebody said this and i can testify but then, my testimonial isn't reliable.)
It only makes too much sense to me for him to be scum. if he isn't we figure out a lot about the alignments of all the players because right now, it's all over the place. The last 15 pages was just 1 large pressure fest and i believe we should boldly lynch goodkarma. Goodkarma was a hot topic and was taken seriously as a lynch candidate and was seriously defended by a good amount of players.

You think his play past Day 1 points to him being scum?

I think the meta argument in day 1 is weaksauce.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 20 2013 02:15 GMT
#1343
On March 20 2013 10:58 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 10:57 Kenpachi wrote:
On March 20 2013 10:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 20 2013 10:48 Kenpachi wrote:
we're all kidding here, goodkarma is still scum. Pretty much, his defense relies on the fact that he's playing like his meta.
.. okay .. Day 1, its massively easy for you to fill in as yourself (somebody said this and i can testify but then, my testimonial isn't reliable.)
It only makes too much sense to me for him to be scum. if he isn't we figure out a lot about the alignments of all the players because right now, it's all over the place. The last 15 pages was just 1 large pressure fest and i believe we should boldly lynch goodkarma. Goodkarma was a hot topic and was taken seriously as a lynch candidate and was seriously defended by a good amount of players.

You think his play past Day 1 points to him being scum?

I think the meta argument in day 1 is weaksauce.

Ok, but what about after that? Do you think how he acted after that shows that he's scum, or is your argument based only on the Day 1 stuff?

k so i believe i am wrong. Admittedly, I was pretty much using my intuition to build up momentum for a case but I'm looking at his posts and they are pretty solid :/..
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 20 2013 02:17 GMT
#1344
Plus, he actually makes a darn good amount of sense. It doesn't go right with me though, some of his posts are just bleh and scream scum
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 00:58 GMT
#1928
today im busy but I want to bring attention to Vivax later, maybe for tomorrow's lynch. I was never alright with his presence and some of the posts like this
On March 21 2013 09:41 Vivax wrote:
It's so easy to find people scummy who contribute when there are guys playing so obviously anti-town or trolling or invisible that you don't want to lynch them.

"The vigs will settle it" is not a valid attitude. Imagine if you have a whole bunch of such guys but not a vig for each one of them, which will likely be the case in most games. It doesn't look like we have vigs anyway,so it's in our hands.

Let's teach this kind of people how to play the game plz

Unvote
Vote: Coagulation

really just sets me off. He was just talking about how VE is scum and he takes his vote off and puts it on coag. Plus, his motive is because coag is being a pile of shit. Ok, but this doesn't line up with your preference of lynching a surefire scum over 3rd party and coag? You dont really say hes scummy, just hes annoying as shit.
On March 21 2013 08:37 Vivax wrote:
Don't think TestSubject is scum, I like his early contributions. But I agree that the read isn't too reliable cause I have to go with so few, that only means that he has just commited himself to posting more in the future.

Please stop spamming the thread and put huge quotes in spoilers thanks. You doing conversation like that only makes you both look like idiots and doesn't get anyone lynched.
/moderation

While I think VE is 3p by now I think we should try to hit scum today, but w/e

also notice how he talks about Testsubject but says nothing about him. "Oh hey guys, Testsubject.. yeah i dont think hes scummy but dont listen to me i might be wrong"
......
Im going to continue some other time.
yeah im busy so sorry for lack of participation, i realize a lot has been said and i can follow up and ill do it for the next day cycle. i have a surprise exam soon also ><
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 01:01 GMT
#1929
if someone wants to look into Vivax for me, go for it. I do not have a solid read on BH and VE cause they are incredibly difficult to read (they sway in persona every game from my experiences). However, VE is a better lynchbet cause he does offer a bit of information i'd say.
unvote: goodkarma
vote: Vivax


ps: zarepath, you dont look all too hot with that post you mentioned me ^^

+ Show Spoiler [i bolded this load of crap by mistake…] +
On March 21 2013 02:23 zarepath wrote:
Kenpachi has completely disappeared, which is odd considering this:
On March 19 2013 07:08 Kenpachi wrote:
I'm personally not very comfortable not getting any limelight, good or bad lol


TestSubject has been completely AFK ever since he voted for GreyMist, save for this post, so look for his contributions soon:
On March 20 2013 11:28 TestSubject893 wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I've been really inactive. I had a couple of things come up that have been taking up a lot of my time. I'm like 20 pages behind but am going to catch up right now.


glurio's last post is calling WoS scum, and since the Eye claim, glurio's said nothing. I want to know if he believes WoS's claim and who his scum reads are now.

Cosmicomics' last post looked pretty scummy, and his VE case seemed absurd to me:
On March 20 2013 13:47 cosmicomics wrote:
WaveofShadow, could you tone down on the swearing please? It can turn people off (including townies), which will in turn fuel this bandwagon against you, and the worst kind of wagon is one where it is town pushed.

I think it would be most beneficial to everyone if you could consolidate your posting and present your defense against kita's main case. Or build a strong case of your own on somebody. Because right now it is getting more difficult to read you and you are giving scum / good intentioned townies more fuel.

I'll be looking over your meta, the case and the posts in interest in the meantime.


Mr. Wiggles still has no new reads except for WoS, and he hasn't reacted at all to WoS's blue claim.

RyuSuzaku hasn't done anything since his N1 reads on VE, TranceStorm, and glurio.

Of all of these, I like cosmicomics the most as a lynch. He hasn't done much, and the things he's done lack follow-through -- he made the poor VE case and never spoke of it again, he showed up to tell WoS to quit being a baby after everyone else was already on WoS, and hasn't said anything about WoS again after that. He looks like scum to me.



Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 01:07 GMT
#1931
ill admit, i got a general gist of it to stay up to topic so briefly read it but didn't go too much into anything.

Oh ya, wiggles was another hot topic for good reason. He's also a tricky dude to understand when he's scum because he very illusive as an experienced mafia player (Hes mafia every game) and I don't get a particularly good vibe of him. I have very limited experience with him being town so I have nothing to compare my vibe to. However, I don't like that in our conversation, all he proposed was a questionnaire so think about it. I generally think a barrage of questions is a shitty attempt to enter into the townie blend so FoS on him too.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 01:12 GMT
#1934
also his questions feigned usefulness. They didnt actually provide anything useful despite their objective tone. Also, he revealed halfheartedness when he just strayed away from the questionnaire after my last response so theres a lack of concern in Wiggles which makes me inclined to believe he is suspicious
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 01:13 GMT
#1936
i think it's pretty reasonable. Ill get you tomorrow!
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 01:17 GMT
#1940
btw, 1 last disclaimer before i leave. If VE is indeed scum by some odd chance (he can be scum i believe lol) Vivax, you're off the hook. I would never buss VE + Show Spoiler +
(WELL TOADESSTERN WOULD ........)
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 23:29 GMT
#2451
... wtf
Ace lynch are you guys 4 rela
like
really
what

i wanted to cringe when i read through the last 20 pages honestly. That just was not even fair and more importantly, easy as fuck for mafia to manipulate. Where is the justice in lynching somebody without a fair trial? are you fucking kidding me? We have numerous veterans in this game and this game is for experienced players and you guys go ahead and lynch Ace, not even there to defend himself. Honestly forget Vivax, the dude isn't as blatantly obvious as DP and Wiggles if he were scum because they literally just walked into the vote with 4 hours left and screamed LYNCH GOODKARMA/LYNCH ACE. Not only that, Wiggles wagon was about to catch fire and VE is going to be easy to kill for the next night regardless of his alignment, making it even easier for scum to manipulate our lynch. Fucking unbelievable. Ace was barely in this game too, I thought we might have learned something with that GreYMisT lynch. SERIOUSLY.
Also, VisceraEyes is a clown. BH is town, GK is town, Coagulation is town. Get off their dicks, and actually think for once.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 21 2013 23:32 GMT
#2452
also Mocsta called me a troll. Tell me you're not joking cause you are despicable if you're saying SHEEP ME as town.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 22 2013 00:44 GMT
#2457
On March 22 2013 09:42 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 08:32 Kenpachi wrote:
also Mocsta called me a troll. Tell me you're not joking cause you are despicable if you're saying SHEEP ME as town.

Go fuck yourself

woah, why so aggressive my lamb?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 22 2013 20:42 GMT
#2506
hot damn this changes everything
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 22 2013 20:44 GMT
#2507
BH mason'ed me but nothing important was said in it. I don't want to post it cause I did vent my rage at town last night but here it is.

+ Show Spoiler [Logs] +
Blazinghand
03-21-2013
08:00 PM ET (US)
Oh there it is. He thinks I'm pushing a scum agenda (unspecified) and that setup-wise it's unlikely town has 2 masons.
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Blazinghand
03-21-2013
07:55 PM ET (US)
Well he eventually realized the timestamps weren't adjusted for time zones so he retracted that argument. He said I'm a "wild card" for whether or not I'm scum now. I'll ask him.
10
K
03-21-2013
07:43 PM ET (US)
or is it just because of the timestamps
9
K
03-21-2013
07:43 PM ET (US)
Vivax thinks you're scum and I'm not entirely sure. can you fill me in on his reasons?
8
Blazinghand
03-21-2013
07:33 PM ET (US)
This only lasts until daybreak

So i had vivax down as scum until he made this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18089009

Basically he thought my mason logs were faked due to timestamps, and he called me out on it. He hadn't corrected for timezones so it looked like I posted a huge post in the QT at the same time as I did in the thread (within like a minute). I don't think scum would be trying to prove my logs were fake via timestamp since scum would know (or at least have no reason to doubt) my mason claim. Aside from that, he's played pretty scummy, but pushing a line of inquiry like that really relies on _believing_ your target is lying. It would have been a waste of time if he was scum, and he'd know that.

GK, yeah not scum.

Ace lynch was pretty shit but honestly it's just kicking a dead horse at this point. I don't even know what VE is doing any more, but this isn't the town VE I'm used to. I'll be pushing him more and voting him if I'm alive tomorrow.
7
K
03-21-2013
07:19 PM ET (US)
Goodkarma, hes not scum. I believe Vivax could be mafia still but i am not sure at all
6
K
03-21-2013
07:18 PM ET (US)
Mocsta is also a chaotic little fellow and he called me a troll so i dont like him by default
5
K
03-21-2013
07:18 PM ET (US)
Reading the thread made me forget that you mentioned coag.
i dont care! He's not interesting
4
K
03-21-2013
07:17 PM ET (US)
how long does this mason last? If its only for the night cycle, poor choice cause I have an exam tomorrow lol.
im annoyed how ace got lynched for no good reason. honestly, im really mad at this town. i think this town is a big pile of dogshit.
im not allowed to say that in the thread though but seriously, ACE LYNCH? also, why were people taking DP seriously for the gk lynch? why didnt they counterattack DP? He's obviously fucking scum. So is Wiggles. Forget Vivax, these guys make it so obvious that theyre scum. Like, wtf?

Also, i dont understand the craze about sciberbia. He has a good rep but honestly, i don't get good vibes from him at all.
Although VE is a nulltell, i think a lynch on him would be much more crucial than some random lynch on Ace. He has barely played so far and he gets lynched without even being able to defend himself. WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THIS TOWN???
3
Blazinghand
03-21-2013
06:59 PM ET (US)
Coag is almost certainly town. He's doing his best to pry apart bad arguments and pressure people for answers, even in his coag-ey way.
2
Blazinghand
03-21-2013
04:12 PM ET (US)
so what's up you around or are we just being afk
1
Blazinghand
03-21-2013
01:20 PM ET (US)
hello my gentle friend
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