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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 09 2013 00:48 GMT
#16
/in
dont lynch me pls

ps do you still hate me?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 16 2013 21:50 GMT
#259
I welcome myself to this marvelous game.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 16 2013 22:35 GMT
#268
I've noticed a lot of support on a goodkarma wagon. and im in full support as of now

On March 16 2013 17:33 goodkarma wrote:
Let's look at Viscera's "policy post." I disagree with pretty much everything he has to say in his attempt at starting a circle.:

Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 17:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Tenets of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team
  • Attendance
    All members of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team are required to post at least FIVE times per phase, a total of TEN times per cycle. This is a half a page of filter per day. Failure to meet this standard will result in immediate expulsion from the team.

    I'd rather have one good post than five shitty ones. Quantity =/= to quality.

  • Logistics
    All members of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team will be expected to fill out nightly reports, due before the following Dawn phase, outlining all of his findings for the day and his most recent "Lynch List". Failure to submit this report will result in immediate expulsion from the team.

    In other words: "Let's outline who we should lynch when town has no power whatsoever to lynch"... While sometimes situationally okay, it's a pretty dumb policy. Mafia can use this information better than town.

  • Compliance
    All members of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team will be expected to vote with the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team at the end of each day unless directly specified otherwise by VisceraEyes. Failure to do so will result in immediate expulsion from the team.

    Let's not blindly sheep people...



Here at the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team, we're out to find and destroy Mafia. We have a variety of programs designed to help you, the aspiring scumhunter, attain your goals of a safe and secure future for the town. Not a member of the SAST? It's easy! Just apply here in the thread using the command "##Apply: SAST"!



Anyhow, going to bed. Will be back tomorrow. I humbly request we focus on scumhunting.

Thank you and good night.

Deliberate attempt to fit into our crowd, I'd call it pretty scummy. Any decent town would ignore it because it actually offers no reliable information.

##Vote: goodkarma
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 16 2013 22:44 GMT
#269
goodkarma. he's fairly experienced but not really i assume. Judging from my past experience with mafia, they're probably on his ass if he were scum and will throw him under the bus for the post i quoted above. They know that hes capable of better and I take that post as a quick halfassed attempt to make himself look town.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 16 2013 22:54 GMT
#271
^ HAH
we kill sciberbia next

just realized his original post

Overall, leaning scum on geript.

You're really quick to come to conclusions. You're announcing your status as you said, 2 hours into day 1. And you think it's foolish to start pushing a lynch yeah? Then how about a bit of questioning or asking for reasoning instead of flat out saying you think hes scum when you wont push a lynch on him.

Thats not all, You're critique of geript SUCKS. ITS TERRIBLE. People including DoYouHas and myself will wonder, what the fuck are you talking about? He does not look scum at all.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 16 2013 22:56 GMT
#272
also my theory on the karma bus, fully supported. but that claim can still be disputed, karma has to flip mafia first.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 00:15 GMT
#284
K BH. you know as well as i do that we dont deviate and form 2 wagons.
fuck off?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 00:16 GMT
#286
Im inclined to call you scum also
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 00:21 GMT
#290
Is he a smurf?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 00:24 GMT
#294
On March 17 2013 09:22 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 09:22 Wade Fell wrote:
On March 17 2013 09:21 Kenpachi wrote:
Is he a smurf?


TPS is almost certainly a smurf.


More reason, btw, why his so-called "case" on coag is bad. He should definitely know better.

exactly what i was thinking but its a case of WIFOM here and i honestly cant tell.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 00:35 GMT
#296
ok your bandwagon is pretty legit. I'd call for a lynch on Peashooter or goodkarma and a vig shot the next night.
No questions that is done.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 00:38 GMT
#297
actually, vig shot will be hard to organize.
idk you guys just shoot up whoever you want actually
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 04:24 GMT
#333
i will not be here tomorrow afternoon. night
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 15:05 GMT
#462
On March 17 2013 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:45 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 17 2013 06:16 layabout wrote:
On March 17 2013 05:51 cosmicomics wrote:
On March 16 2013 23:42 Vivax wrote:

Sandro:

I don't like this post.
Quick conclusions. No arguments, no read on BH and VE (just being silly) and conclusive reads on people I actually find scummy. Townish reads on a guy who contributed something pointless. Not the sandro I would expect as town. Leaning red.

What does town sandro look like?

What do you think of DarthPunk?

You can see in the nested quotes that geript drops RNG for setup spec "I thought I couldn't use it from what was said in pregame and the tarot stuff got me interested." and then moves into asking about a different topic "How do you feel about this being based on some sort of tarot stuff?"

So DarthPunk is acting as if geript is still attempting his RNG stuff (he isn't) and trying to lynch him off that, and doesn't actually address him. How do you get so mad at someone you totally dismiss his posting so quickly?

##Vote: DarthPunk


LoL just cacthing up now. One thing though. I doubt anyone could interpret my vote as anything more than some pressure to stop his RNG bullshit. That's clearly what it was but you claiming that I was trying to lynch him off that is complete BS.

I doubt this misinterpretation could be anything but deliberate.

##unvote

##Vote:Cosmicomics


Explain how the fuck you think I was actually doing anything more than a pressure vote on someone in order to get them to cease a terrible idea/plan?

WTF
On March 17 2013 19:41 sciberbia wrote:
Thoughts on lynch candidates

GreyMist
I could pretty easily see GreyMist being scum. I agree with what sandroba and somebody else said about his first post. Then he lurked for a while. Upon emerging from lurking, he jumped on a post of GK accusing him of lurking saying "I've been waiting for this!". Then he repeatedly piled on GK. I see scum motivation here where greymist justifies his lurking and pushes a mislynch. Two birds with one stone. Also, I don't think his arguments about GK are particularly good. I wouldn't feel too bad about a greymist lynch today.

Peashooter
I don't want to lynch him. Pretty good chance he's town. He drew attention to himself with the Coag thing, continued to push Coag, picked a fight with DH, and has shown willingness to interact with the thread. Seems more likely town than not. Not sure if he is even a lynch candidate anymore.

Coagulation
I don't vote people unless I think they are scum and I really don't have a clue. if I had to hazard a guess I would say town.

TestSubject
The main accusation seems to be that he chose to talk about stuff other than who he thinks is scum. I don't know TestSubject but he seems relatively new so it's a bit unreasonable to demand original scumreads after just one read-through. Also, his willingness to interact with the thead and some of the stuff he says about GK gives me a townie feel. Not interested in lynching TestSubject.

zarepath
I'm pretty interested in lynching this guy.

I stated some supsicions before and his behavior since then further suggests he is scum. Here are the quotes:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 17 2013 12:33 zarepath wrote:
I haven't hopped on the GK or TPS bandwagons because I'm not convinced of them entirely. I've never played in a game this large and there are a LOT of people who have posted almost literally nothing, and several people whose small contributions have been less substantial than either of these two players (DarthPunk, Trancestorm, sandroba, Coagulation). I hear what people are saying about them, but I hadn't taken into account the point that TPS is obviously a proxy, and that muddles the waters a bit.

It's not like there's an enormous wagon on GK right now -- half the thread has hardly posted and there's what, two or three people talking about him? I can see why; it's not like it's bad to talk about him, but I just don't have anything to add. I also thought it was quite scummy for him to basically give his Pro Town resume of all the wonderfully pro town things he's done (which under scrutiny he hasn't done), and I can understand that looking pretty bad. But I know what it's like to think you have a solid pro-town filter as town and apparently it wasn't as solid and obvious as you assumed.

But he's also promised he has a case coming, and I can understand the desire to wait until you feel confident about a case to really push it. I'm inclined to see what he comes up with and re-evaluate my read from there.

On March 17 2013 12:34 zarepath wrote:
EBWOP: Sundays are my busiest days and I am not likely to be around as much as some of you may like tomorrow. I will check up on the thread and read through it when I can and such and certainly have a vote in, but I won't be making it into the SAST tomorrow, that's for sure. Just an FYI for you all.



I don't like the first post at all. He says he hasn't commented on the GK or TPS bandwaggons because he isn't "entirely convinced". Again, he makes it seem like he is very suspicious of people but doesn't commit. He says that the fact that TPS is a proxy "muddles the waters a bit" but does not explain at all how it affects his read of TPS. Seems like a way to just avoid having to give a read on TPS.

Furthermore, he describes GK's behavior as "quite scummy" but then sympathizes with the same behavior that he just called "quite scummy." More of the same non-commital and devil's advocate.

Next, he says he is busy on Sundays and disappears when I ask him to clarify his read on TPS.

goodkarma
Here are some of the more important reasons that I found goodkarma suspicious:
- he felt the need to comment on VE's SAST post but didn't come to any conclusion about VE from it
- his first few posts reek of 'i am goint to say non-controversial things so please don't pay any attention to me'
- his playing mr. nice guy with coag

However, after reading through some of his previous games, I think there's a pretty decent chance he's townie this game. He loves to talk about policy in general so I can see him going out of his way to talk policy about VE. Also, his posts since his accusation of Greymist have just been giving me a townier feel. He is willing to talk with people in the thread and isn't just vanishing like scum are prone to do when under pressure.

Blech I dunno about this guy. Right now my gut feeling is town.

cosmicomics
I don't know if he's really a lynch candidate but his filter is pretty alarming. It consists of a pretty much 100% sheep off of layabout onto DP and pretty much nothing else. Also I think he is a smurf which makes this an even bigger cause for concern.



I feel best about a zarepath lynch. I'm voting him now. Going to bed pretty soon but will be online for at least a little while longer if anyone wants to discuss something with me.

##Vote: zarepath

WTF
On March 17 2013 22:48 Vivax wrote:
A NEW CHALLENGER IS APPROACHING


## Vote: DoYouHas

WTF
On March 17 2013 23:29 glurio wrote:
Ok finally done with reading.
Here are some of my thoughts on the first read through.

zarepath: I played two newbie games with him and he's always busy on weekends, and so far he always gave me a slightly scummy vibe D1 although he was town. He usually picks up his play along the way, so i really can't support a zarepath lynch today.

TestSubject: In his last game where he was anti-town he played pretty tame D1, usually agreeing to stuff and basically not drawing attention, picking a fight with one of the loudest voices in the thread? Don't think he would draw that much attention to him as scum. He won't get a vote from me either.

TPS: While i think his setup speculation makes for a scummy beginning he kinda redeemed himself for me with his posts pointing out coagulation who i think looks scummy right now.

Coagulation: I think he looks scummy. Although he has a few posts none of them have any kind of content. Since he obviously is not new to mafia, i really think he should pick up his play.

sandroba: His play (or the lack of) also lacks town motivation. If you compare it to his last game where he was town (Fruity Mafia). He actively pursuits his scum reads, asks them question, all of this completely non-existant this game.
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 22:30 sandroba wrote:
Update: Greymist is suspicious.

He posts this but so far no follow-up.
Scum.

##Vote: sandroba

WTF
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 15:05 GMT
#463
btw i lied, plans were cancelled and i'll be here today
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 15:10 GMT
#465
Settle this you fuckers, we have too many lynch candidates for 1 day.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 15:14 GMT
#466
OK, How many of you guys are trying to lynch based off inactivity?
r u dumb?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 15:17 GMT
#469
On March 17 2013 23:29 glurio wrote:
Ok finally done with reading.
Here are some of my thoughts on the first read through.

zarepath: I played two newbie games with him and he's always busy on weekends, and so far he always gave me a slightly scummy vibe D1 although he was town. He usually picks up his play along the way, so i really can't support a zarepath lynch today.

sandroba: His play (or the lack of) also lacks town motivation. If you compare it to his last game where he was town (Fruity Mafia). He actively pursuits his scum reads, asks them question, all of this completely non-existant this game.

Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 22:30 sandroba wrote:
Update: Greymist is suspicious.

He posts this but so far no follow-up.
Scum.

##Vote: sandroba

What i dont get is how you're defending zarepath for inactivity but you accuse sandroba for inactivity. do you consider that sandroba may just be busy? You can only back yourself up with 2 days of evidence.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 17:46 GMT
#508
On March 18 2013 02:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'm still catching up, but to Kenpachi and Kitaman if you're still around, are you still in support of your votes on GK, or are you looking at other candidates?

yes. I have been considering TPS as a 2nd alternative. I'm reading other cases atm but I don't really want to give up my case on gk. FoS for now because evidence has been weltering as of recently.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 17 2013 18:23 GMT
#533
Ok, so i personally believe most of these accusations are weak but that's how i see it on day 1 generally. I will admit my case on goodkarma is piled by a bunch of assumptions and that is, like BH has pointed out, not a great thing for a lynch. However, there is a lack of response but I did say what others said and he is apparently playing like he normally does. TPS did not provide any form of defense so i still am suspecting him.
Greymist is a shady figure because his actions, greatly resemble what I do when I am scum. There is literally nothing to accuse DarthPunk and DoYouHas imo.

Vivax is looking to be an easy target to jump ship on, and i can't get a good read on him personally. He sheeped onto random people when there is a clear wagon he can contribute to as well as some of these random people being inactive or lurking. I also dont like the scumslip argument, it wasn't a hardslip at all and it's easy to bring attention to. I'd look at the people focusing on that tbh.
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