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On March 18 2013 08:27 VisceraEyes wrote: DP who is your best guess for scum? Who do you want to lynch today? Either you, cosmic or layabout. Reason: I can;t believe any of you would deliberate misinterpret my posting this badly whilst being town. Actually put you at the top of that list. I KNOW you should know better. Not sure if these other guys are just terrible. I KNOW you are not. ##Vote: Viscera Eyes | ||
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On March 18 2013 08:25 cosmicomics wrote: Could you point out where geript suggested using Tarot cards to arbitrarily lynch someone? Hmm seems I was wrong about the tarot cards because I couldn;t remember the flavor of the role list. all i saw was this post with an 'idea' about tarot cards and after all the RNG shit assumed it was a arbitary lynch mechanic. On March 16 2013 16:41 geript wrote: When I hit the idea of tarot cards, there were a few things that didn't quite match up. First off the major arcana are usually comprised of roughly twenty or so cards. But in the setup there's only 17 named roles. Additionally the roles don't quite matchup exactly. The Devil, Fool and the Tower are straight copies. The Priest could be the Heirophant. The Empress could be the Snake or the Mirror. The others are harder to tell. Does anyone else think that this could be based off of a tarot reading? Yep I got it wrong. I admit that. Doesn't make me scum and doesn;t stop my first vote in the opening hour from being a plainly obvious pressure vote and doesn't stop those who think it was more from being scum trying to mislynch. | ||
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On March 18 2013 08:35 VisceraEyes wrote: WEEEEEEEE I'M DP AND I'M GONNA WASTE MY VOTE ON SOMEONE NO OTHER PERSON IN THE GAME HAS SHOWN ANY INTEREST IN LYNCHING MERE HOURS FROM DEADLINE! IN SPITE OF THIS BEING IN RESPONSE TO A DIRECT QUESTION REGARDING MY LYNCH PREFERENCE THOUGH, ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT I THINK VE IS SCUM IS OBVIOUSLY SCUM FOR MISINTERPRETING MY POST!!! WHOOPIDEEEDOOOOOOOOO!!! I don't care about what other people are doing. It's day one it's not mylo I don;t need to consolidate onto a popular candidate I don;t believe in. It's not a waste. You are probably scum from the way you have played. Tell me VE, do you actually believe that townies don't ever pressure vote in the first hour of a game? Answer me that. | ||
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On March 18 2013 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote: I believe that townies don't use their vote to try and change the way other people are playing. I believe that townies vote for people they think are scum, because that is the function of the vote. Bollocks. Policy lynches. Pressure votes. Townies pressure vote or policy vote ALL THE TIME at the start of day one and this was one hour in. I KNOW you know this because you have played too much to not know. So why are you lying? | ||
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On March 18 2013 03:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually I want to lynch DarthPunk. ##Unvote ##Vote: DarthPunk He doesn't actually think anyone is scum. Says we shouldn't go after lurkers, goes after a lurker. Says he doesn't like a post by GK and defends him, attacks BH for defending GK. The entirety of his play can be characterized as contradictory. Terrible first case. Completely different interpretation to several others. But he seems pretty confident that I am scum. Great. On March 18 2013 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote: Mr. Wiggles can you look at DarthPunk please? I think he scummy scum. On March 18 2013 03:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Hoeless you too please, I think this is the lynch. DarthPunk. On March 18 2013 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote: It's the way he's approaching this game. He doesn't seem to care at all about finding scum. This is his first vote. To this point, he has done nothing but soft defend people, and lightly agree with BH on a point he made about geript. Which is even worse because in this post he openly acknowledges that he doesn't even really think geript is scum...that his vote was exclusively to "pressure" him to "stop what he's doing". Except...that's not what townies do with their vote. Townies try and kill scum with their vote. But apparently Cosmic is now scum because he didn't like Darth's vote. Whatever maybe I can roll with this.... This blows my mind. VE says that townies never pressure vote at the start of the game. Like what in the actual fuck. Everyone here knows VE could not in a million years actually believe this but he is saying that to try and lynch me. On March 18 2013 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote: ...except by the time Darth makes this post Cosmic is a lurker. And read his last statement! :OOOOOOOO Like, his reasoning isn't that he's a lurker, that much I'll admit. But the fact remains that Darth "doesn't think lurkers are the place to look" while his vote is ON a lurker. This is poor and even you know it. Not voting for lurking and not voting for lurkers period are worlds apart. you know this which is why you mention it. But if you know how bad this argument is why make it at all. UNLESS you are pushing a mislynch and you don't care if I am actually scum or not. On March 18 2013 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote: In this post he also SIMULTANEOUSLY defends and attacks GoodKarma. I guess because it's not clear what thread sentiment is going to end up favoring or something, but ultimately ends up saying he doesn't want to lynch GK.[/quote} I had a clear position so your assertion that I was hedging is bollocks. My position was I don;t want to lynch goodkarma today. On March 18 2013 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote: But in the very next post attacks Wade for defending GK on meta? HE JUST DID THIS! I didn't use meta. Explain to me how I used meta to justify not lynching Goodkarma. You can't because I didn't. On March 17 2013 22:42 DarthPunk wrote: GK is really quite an asset as town and someone who I am confident I can catch later. On March 18 2013 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote: VOTE FOR DARTHPUNK HE SCUM YO You seem really confident right? On March 18 2013 04:07 VisceraEyes wrote: That's because he's just saying it's a pressure vote to absolve himself of having to justify his vote with actual reasoning. It was the first hour of the day. It was abviously a pressure vote. Or do you find yourself with deadset scum reads one hour in? What a joke. On March 18 2013 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Thx Wiggles. With that, I'm going to play Minecraft. Clearly I'm not looking at this the right way right now. Are you still good with a GK lynch sir? Finally after all that screaming about me being scum wiggles disagrees and he is off trying to lynch goodkarma. Like seriously. Something is completly off about VE We need to lynch him. | ||
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On March 18 2013 08:50 layabout wrote: I like way you miss my point. Darth the pressure on BH doesn't have anything to do with GK alignment, it has to do with you indirectly supporting the lynch. I'm not. I clearly stated I didn't want to lynch Goodkarma. Indirectly supporting the lynch is a complete fabrication. I didn't and don't support a goodkarma lynch and stated as much. The question to blazinghand was entirely about how he had acquired a dead set town read I couldn't understand, because town reads you can't understand often come from scum as they know alignments. It had everything to do with blazinghand and nothing to do with goodkarma. | ||
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On March 18 2013 08:45 Vivax wrote: DP chill down (coming from me, so it's serious business) and work towards persuading people of your own reads. There is only a GM wagon up now as alternative so I suggest you hop on that. I find pretty much everyone scummy you do, but GM is the only working alternative now. We need to draw people to our wagon of rightfulness. NO I am not going to vote for someone I don't think is scum unless I am absolutely going to get mislynched. | ||
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On March 18 2013 05:18 goodkarma wrote: Briefly discussing some thoughts on the new suspects in the flurry of posts that have appeared since last night: Regarding DarthPunk: Darthpunk is definitely looking scummy right now. I understand where VisceraEyes is coming from in his case, and I generally agree with his points. One point I don't agree on though, is DP's defense of me. I understand where he's coming from there, and I attribute it to the several games we've played together. And yes, VisceraEyes you can feel free to jump all over this as a soft defense or yada yada... But I know what DarthPunk's capable of if he actually is town, and there's enough doubt in my mind right now as to if he's scum that I'd really rather not lynch him day one. If he's town, it's an absolute waste. Further, if he's scum I'm confident I could spot it in later days. Ironically, this is pretty similar to the reasoning he used for me. But as of right now, I would say he indeed is scummy for the reasons you've mentioned. Regarding Grey: I really like ryu's case on Grey. With Sandroba being replaced, and these new valid concerns being brought up regarding Grey's posting history, I'm changing my vote back to Grey.: ##Unvote ##Vote: Grey I would ask in the next few hours we find two candidates to consolidate our votes between. As of right now, we're kind of spread everywhere, which is poor form this close to the deadline. Give me a reason why I am looking scummy right now that isn't activity. I would really love to engage in some rational conversation with you. | ||
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On March 18 2013 09:03 zarepath wrote: Okay, I just poked in to catch up as much as I can -- sorry that I am looking scummy; I will be able to participate much more during the week (as opposed to the weekend) and will hopefully be able to prove my alignment in a better fashion than I have thus far. Darth Punk was one of something like 8 different people I suspected yesterday, and from the last couple of pages it seems as though his defense of other people's pressure hasn't been stellar. Mainly, all of his reads have been people who have been pressuring him, and much of his text is defending the first day of his game, not actively trying to find out who is scum. The people he lists as scum suspects are not people he's trying to get others to lynch; it's entirely responsive. I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but his first post seemed almost suspiciously over the top (I'm so excited for this game!), and that's another reason I feel okay about lynching him. I wish I'd had time to look over some more candidates, but at this moment (and time is running short) I don't feel too bad about throwing my vote onto DarthPunk. ##Vote: DarthPunk That's because I am being attacked for ridiculous reasons. It does town no favours for me to get mislynched day one. Thus defending myself is the pro town thing to do. I actually believe in my case against VE you should read it. | ||
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Can we get our shit together please. It is almost deadline and the apathy being this close to the deadline worries me. | ||
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On March 18 2013 09:19 sciberbia wrote: Why did you defend DP from cosmicomics yesterday if you thought his first post was suspiciously over the top and you suspected him? Wow. That is huge. The fact he is just piling on the wagon and his reasoning directly contradicts his previous position is worrying. | ||
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Sciberbia just brought up something massive on zarepath. I could lynch him today. WoS has had so little impact I barely remember what he has even done. But I probably wouldn't lynch him today because there are better candidates in my opinion. | ||
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Anyway, Vote: Zarepath | ||
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On March 18 2013 09:29 goodkarma wrote: Why not Greymist? What about his play has you thinking he is town? I think a part of the reason for the explosion of votes against you is you seem more concerned about defending yourself than getting out your reads. You're in danger of getting lynched right now, and the only real scum suspect you have comes off as a heated OMGUS response... If you're town, then doing your best to get all your reads out on paper is your best play. Help us to see your thought process and show you're townie. The case against VE is not pure OMGUS. Please tell me what you think of it. Regardless OMGUS is not alignment indicative at all. I have my reads on paper. The reason I don't want to lynch greymist is that he has read as sensible and productive to me and as a rule I generally don't like lynching players like that day one. One second though. You said that you thought I was scummy before I started posting this morning. So it can't really be because of the 'OMGUS' case on VE (which is actually good) So why did you feel I was scummy earlier? before I started posting this morning. | ||
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I thought he was talking to me. LOL. | ||
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On March 18 2013 09:49 GreYMisT wrote: I'm sure I speak for Dr.H when I say watch the insults. I think the cases surrounding me are very weak, but honestly I don't care. If I am lynched so be it. I think GK is the best option today and I urge people to vote for him. How could you not care if you are lynched? That doesn't make any sense. | ||
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On March 18 2013 09:58 goodkarma wrote: It had to do with your proactive interest in lynching the lurker cosmic, as well as your super-early vote of geript. I get that these may have been "pressure votes," but you must understand this is all we had to go on for you for the longest time. So in the absence of nearly any other scumhunting involvement, I would say it looked pretty scummy. And as far as OMGUS and emotional responses, yes these can come from town or scum. In my experience, though, you tend to be more emotional in your responses as scum than as town. It's something I've been looking out for. I'm not discounting what you've said about VE as entirely invalid. But it also didn't feel to me to be a particularly strong case. That you were ready to drop consideration of all other cases and beeline for VE with what you presented seemed odd to me. At best, it was a passionate townie getting into a heated argument. At worst, a scum attempt to redirect conversation. In short, I don't have you pegged as town right now (I would say leaning scum) and I understand why others are voting for you. My read on Grey is still much stronger though, especially considering his resistance toward addressing the case against him. I still stand by what I said earlier though about giving you a chance. I believe there's still the possibility that this can be attributed to your prolonged absence. You'll just have to work overtime now though (if you're town) to prove yourself. If you feel that being emotional is scummy for me you should look at my last 3 town games for evidence that this is false. My interest was not lynching a lurker. It was lynching someone who I felt was deliberately misrepresenting things in order to lynch me, and then discovering that he was also sheeping. It happened to be on a lurker. It had nothing to do with the fact that he was lurking. But sure. I will endeavour to try and lynch scum and you can read me from that. I would expect nothing less. Do you buy VE saying that townies never vote for pressure or policy or any reason other than a scum read? | ||
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