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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 11 2013 22:51 GMT
#1241
On March 12 2013 07:45 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:43 Mocsta wrote:
Bad morning all.

This is my worst nightmare. 20 pages of thread to read with rhymers...

In case someone has a specific question for me, I will check the latest posts in about 30min; otherwise, will respond to things once I have caught up with the thread.


Are you voting for me, due to the fact that I am your top scumread?

Unlike what you have done so far, I've put my vote where my mouth is.

?? My vote is on WBG

On March 11 2013 16:02 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: WBG


For about 15hrs now...
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 22:52 GMT
#1242
On March 12 2013 07:48 Vivax wrote:
Nah it's not a defence just my opinion to why he contributed more than others, never opposed his lynch just gave it another priority.

Why don't you like the "defence" you think he's scum or town?
Reading is good. I'll save you the trouble of checking my filter. I think he's scum.

I don't like your "defence" because defense is spelled with an s. Your "another priority" was giving a reason why bugs shouldn't be the lynch. You may not be saying "he's super townie," but he's on the chopping block and you're giving a reason for him not to be there. But the reason itself is bad, imo, because it LOOKS like you think he contributed something he didn't.

Let alone that who contributed what =/= scumminess, and using that as your sole metric to make reads is an awful idea. But the fact that you didn't like him as a lynch previously because he'd "contributed," when in fact he wasn't the one to bring prplhz up, and all he did with prplhz was fake a shot...I fail to see how trolling is contributing.
Fe fi fo fum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#1243
Vivax also likes to count the number of times people say "Ugh" and "Um" to determine their level of scuminess. Next level shit right there.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 11 2013 22:57 GMT
#1244
On March 12 2013 07:52 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 07:48 Vivax wrote:
Nah it's not a defence just my opinion to why he contributed more than others, never opposed his lynch just gave it another priority.

Why don't you like the "defence" you think he's scum or town?
Reading is good. I'll save you the trouble of checking my filter. I think he's scum.

I don't like your "defence" because defense is spelled with an s. Your "another priority" was giving a reason why bugs shouldn't be the lynch. You may not be saying "he's super townie," but he's on the chopping block and you're giving a reason for him not to be there. But the reason itself is bad, imo, because it LOOKS like you think he contributed something he didn't.

Let alone that who contributed what =/= scumminess, and using that as your sole metric to make reads is an awful idea. But the fact that you didn't like him as a lynch previously because he'd "contributed," when in fact he wasn't the one to bring prplhz up, and all he did with prplhz was fake a shot...I fail to see how trolling is contributing.


Well it's just your opinion on what is contributing and what not I am rather able to get a read on Bugs than on Ver and that's already more contributing by Bugs by my standards. Marv goes by contribution/post ratio and you go by strange heuristics cause you feel confident into reading trolls so idk.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 23:00 GMT
#1245
Corazon, can you tell me the difference between these 2 quotes please? They seem to be contradictory points:

On March 10 2013 16:19 cDgCorazon wrote:

You aren't scumhunting, you're just throwing shit around. There's no need to do that. We find scum and lynch them. The fact that you are murking the water up means that you are not trying to scumhunt, which would make you not town.



On March 10 2013 16:41 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 16:39 yamato77 wrote:
Your argument is that I'm scum because I refused to argue with you.

Not exactly a strong one.


No, it's the fact that you are not playing as abrasive as your usual town meta is.


[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 11 2013 23:02 GMT
#1246
marv, i think corazon is town... I prefer crossfire as day1lynch right now.
I continue rereading. WBG shouldn't be an option today. That's my final thought about wbg today. Keep him alive.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 23:04 GMT
#1247
On March 12 2013 08:02 supersoft wrote:
marv, i think corazon is town... I prefer crossfire as day1lynch right now.
I continue rereading. WBG shouldn't be an option today. That's my final thought about wbg today. Keep him alive.


Can you tell me why? I'm wrestling with his alignment entirely unsuccessfully right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 23:05 GMT
#1248
I could happily vote for Crossfire. What's keeping you back on bugs? Is it just that he's a vet?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 11 2013 23:06 GMT
#1249
On March 12 2013 08:02 supersoft wrote:
marv, i think corazon is town... I prefer crossfire as day1lynch right now.
I continue rereading. WBG shouldn't be an option today. That's my final thought about wbg today. Keep him alive.

What in the world

why would someone martrying themselves and refusing to make themselves usefu( when they are very capable of being)l make you think they are town?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 23:07 GMT
#1250
On March 12 2013 08:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 08:02 supersoft wrote:
marv, i think corazon is town... I prefer crossfire as day1lynch right now.
I continue rereading. WBG shouldn't be an option today. That's my final thought about wbg today. Keep him alive.


Can you tell me why? I'm wrestling with his alignment entirely unsuccessfully right now.

Because bugs is hard to read and XF isn't. If we take the free scum lynch now they lose kp and we gain time yo figure out bugs.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 11 2013 23:07 GMT
#1251
Do we have a proper case on corazon? I see nothing good or bad in his filter and his filter is relatively large compared to many others.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 23:08 GMT
#1252
I would also vote for Crossfire. He has contributed nothing original all game.

##Vote Crossfire
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 11 2013 23:09 GMT
#1253
No you can't bish

On March 11 2013 15:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Here is a list of the thread actions Vivax has taken, in order.
+ Show Spoiler +

Tip: Keep roles to ourselves.

Lynching Lurkers > Posters

Lynching VE for -post- No reason given.

Misrepresents my argument for Yamato scum, says I didn't suspect him for it (so what..is he trying to associate himself with me? Saying he's my scumbuddy? What's the point?) Also says he's fine lynching people speaking in riddles.

Attacks Cora for agreeing with SnB's case with no vote. Because apparently there can only be one scum ever. Does not vote for Cora

Reassures Cora that he's not attacking him.
Kurumi too. Even though...

Tells the thread to still suspect Kurumi.

Tells marv that mod can't be trusted.

Votes someone else (Prom) for being "riddler" not scum.

After the (called) shot was claimed, votes Yamato. No reason given. But seeking opposition immediately.


Now, you'll notice a distinct lack of something in that list. At no time does Vivax ever imply that someone might be scum...except in the case of Kurumi, and recently Yamato. And in both of those cases, he never gives any reasoning for thinking so. Honestly, I'm kinda curious myself re: Yamato considering he was so fast to seek opposition to the lynch...but I digress. Vivax is not trying to find scum. He's posting for the sake of posting and making sure to interact with people up for lynch in a way that causes you to remember his name, but not what he did. This is scum-motivated play.

wherebugsgo, Vivax, yamato


VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 23:09 GMT
#1254
I do what I want.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#1255
On March 12 2013 08:07 supersoft wrote:
Do we have a proper case on corazon? I see nothing good or bad in his filter and his filter is relatively large compared to many others.


There's a reasonably large post I made on him in my filter, it's easy to find because it's my longest post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 23:11 GMT
#1256
On March 12 2013 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would also vote for Crossfire. He has contributed nothing original all game.

##Vote Crossfire


give me your advice, VE. you've played with bugs for good and for bad. should i kill crossfire or bugs?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 11 2013 23:14 GMT
#1257
This is so wat VE prefers some random guy like crossfire to his scumread Bugs who seems to be about to get lynched.

It stinks.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 23:14 GMT
#1258
I always want to kill Bugs marv and you know that. I'm like the worst person to ask. I try and play nice with him all the time and he just ignores me or calls me bad (which I generally take to mean the same thing) and this game is no exception. His behavior does not speak highly of his concern for town's agenda, though.

I'm having the same problem you are with Bugs. I'm sorry.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 11 2013 23:16 GMT
#1259
It's like me convincing people to get on the yamato wagon for a day or more and then jump off a few hours before a successful lynch saying "Oh well this guy seems fine too fuck my reads".
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 11 2013 23:16 GMT
#1260
just one little sidenote:
I am rereading the thread and I often see people exaggerating and writing really onesided cases. If you don't balance pros and cons, I cannot follow your chain of thought and therefor you don't convince me.
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