EPTOn March 11 2013 16:55 Vivax wrote:
Many of VE's points are wrong so I suggest you do your own research before believing them or at least force him to prove his points with actual quotes.
You don't need me to write a defence to every point to see what's already there for you, just compare it with my filter and check for yourselves please.
I'll mention a few things nonetheless:
1. Cora is scummy, I have said so and pushed him and opinions on him by asking many questions. → VE lied.
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2.Yamato's actions in shooting Kurumi are scummy. Opinions may differ but it's enough for me to lynch him he took the risk of shooting a possibly mod-confirmed townie where it should have at least gave him a benefit of the doubt to not get vigged.
3.I've mentioned one of the points I've found scummy about VE's post, so I did reply to VE (with link) although it's not the only reason:
So basically I don't know what makes me so scummy my stances are clear I don't comment on meaningless stuff and I tried to get people to post/post in a way that is understandable for town (although stopped after Prom cause I can follow him regardless and got my attention caught by Cora).
That said I think it's a really bad idea to want to keep yamato alive after that stunt.
Don't know if Foolishness is town yet but if he genuinely thinks I'm scum then he must not be as good as people think
, he played with me as scum so he should know better.
Many of VE's points are wrong so I suggest you do your own research before believing them or at least force him to prove his points with actual quotes.
You don't need me to write a defence to every point to see what's already there for you, just compare it with my filter and check for yourselves please.
I'll mention a few things nonetheless:
1. Cora is scummy, I have said so and pushed him and opinions on him by asking many questions. → VE lied.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 11 2013 07:46 Vivax wrote:
Well those are also my questions cause the way he handled S & B's post doesn't make much sense, he dodged my question now he seems to be dodging yours which is essentially the same.
He kinda looks to me like noob scum, says things that look acceptable without showing real interest behind what he's saying. He doesn't pursue his own case while saying S & B's is very good but doesn't push for an Oats lynch either.
Well those are also my questions cause the way he handled S & B's post doesn't make much sense, he dodged my question now he seems to be dodging yours which is essentially the same.
He kinda looks to me like noob scum, says things that look acceptable without showing real interest behind what he's saying. He doesn't pursue his own case while saying S & B's is very good but doesn't push for an Oats lynch either.
2.Yamato's actions in shooting Kurumi are scummy. Opinions may differ but it's enough for me to lynch him he took the risk of shooting a possibly mod-confirmed townie where it should have at least gave him a benefit of the doubt to not get vigged.
3.I've mentioned one of the points I've found scummy about VE's post, so I did reply to VE (with link) although it's not the only reason:
you say yamato wants to pressure lurkers just to look like contributing and I did the same but you didn't attack me for it
So basically I don't know what makes me so scummy my stances are clear I don't comment on meaningless stuff and I tried to get people to post/post in a way that is understandable for town (although stopped after Prom cause I can follow him regardless and got my attention caught by Cora).
That said I think it's a really bad idea to want to keep yamato alive after that stunt.
Don't know if Foolishness is town yet but if he genuinely thinks I'm scum then he must not be as good as people think
, he played with me as scum so he should know better.1. You never said you think Cora is scummy. You said you thought his actions were strange, and you specifically tell him that you're not attacking him. The only question in your entire filter directed to him is "Why don't you try and convince me of a yamato lynch" which, by the way, he DID respond to....by trying to convince you of a Yamato lynch. Yet you referenced "questions you want answered" a couple of times in your filter as if you'd made a case on him that you were waiting on a response to. Here, I'll quote it so you can't call me a liar anymore.
On March 11 2013 07:07 Vivax wrote:
I don't think I said I wanted to hammer you it's just strange that you comment on someone's case as being very good without reacting to it by either voting for the guy in the case or putting it into relation with your own case.
I don't understand why you are so afraid of me I just asked you something that made me curious
Why aren't you trying to persuade me about the yamato lynch then?
You too Kurumi I only asked you to write in a way that is understandable I don't get why you react like that (also you failed to roleplay didn't I break the Chezinu role or something like that ?
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I don't think I said I wanted to hammer you it's just strange that you comment on someone's case as being very good without reacting to it by either voting for the guy in the case or putting it into relation with your own case.
I don't understand why you are so afraid of me I just asked you something that made me curious
Why aren't you trying to persuade me about the yamato lynch then?
You too Kurumi I only asked you to write in a way that is understandable I don't get why you react like that (also you failed to roleplay didn't I break the Chezinu role or something like that ?
)The bolded statements make it seem like you don't want to seem like you're attacking him. This is why I say you never attack Cora - because you never do.
2. Yamato's actions in shooting Kurumi are scummy. Neat! Except you don't say as much ever.
On March 11 2013 09:22 Vivax wrote:
Well that's cool. I suppose you had to shoot day1 cause of your role but your choice of target is telling.
##Vote yamato77
Anyone opposing a yamato lynch?
Well that's cool. I suppose you had to shoot day1 cause of your role but your choice of target is telling.
##Vote yamato77
Anyone opposing a yamato lynch?
How is it telling? What is it telling of? You never say his actions are scummy or look scum motivated.
On March 11 2013 09:34 Vivax wrote:
Well good I'll take this as you willing to lynch him. Honestly I don't understand what you're waiting for are you expecting him to argue his way out of this? He looks worse cause of this and on this he should be judged, not on what happens later that might change your opinion cause there's something else catching your attention.
So yeah, we should be lynching yamato today as general consensus the scumhunt still continues although in that case the other scum will know that they won't be lynched today, but that might reveal them later on actually.
Well good I'll take this as you willing to lynch him. Honestly I don't understand what you're waiting for are you expecting him to argue his way out of this? He looks worse cause of this and on this he should be judged, not on what happens later that might change your opinion cause there's something else catching your attention
.So yeah, we should be lynching yamato today as general consensus the scumhunt still continues although in that case the other scum will know that they won't be lynched today, but that might reveal them later on actually.
Again, no reasoning given - simply "we should be lynching yamato today as general consensus".
3. He thinks yam is scummy for trying to pressure lurkers to contribute but not me.
First of all, that's a gross misinterpretation of my post. I was saying that yamato's explanation for his actions were bullshit - that nothing he was doing was advocating "lurkers posting" whatsoever and he just said something to make his actions seem pro-town. Sarcasm doesn't translate well in text, it's a failing of mine. But second of all, who the fuck cares? Why would you be suspicious of me for being suspicious of someone for something YOU are doing in the first place? That doesn't even make any sense from a townie perspective.
