Personality Mafia 2 - Page 6

marvellosity

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March 11 2013 18:03 GMT

#977

On March 12 2013 03:01 slOosh wrote:

Cause he can get massive towncred for it and use it as a platform of pushing mafia agenda and blind you guys from seeing blatant contradictions like the one I just pointed out.

how do you get massive towncred for shooting a townie? Am I missing something here?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 18:04 GMT

#979

I'm certainly not giving yamato's opinions any more weight than I was previously. Is anyone else actually doing so? I don't think so.

marvellosity

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March 11 2013 18:06 GMT

#983

On March 12 2013 03:05 Promethelax wrote:

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On March 12 2013 03:02 marvellosity wrote:

On March 12 2013 03:00 wherebugsgo wrote:

On March 12 2013 02:48 marvellosity wrote:

On March 12 2013 02:45 wherebugsgo wrote:

On March 12 2013 02:41 marvellosity wrote:

On March 12 2013 02:40 wherebugsgo wrote:

On March 12 2013 01:11 marvellosity wrote:

On March 11 2013 07:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
the man in the sky tells us the rat is not a rat but a mouse

but the not-rat (actually a mouse) says he may be a mouse with a mask today and a rat tomorrow. "Today I die," the mouse says. And, he says, he will not tell us when he turns into a rat! Of course, any doorknob would know that a rat does not announce its own presence.

So is this mouse a mouse under the bridge, or a mouse over the bridge?

I say, brothers, that we burn the mouse and say our prayers, for it shall be safer for us if the mouse does not become rabid.

So basically bugs, apart from being useless, it comes down to what we think of this post.

Of course, any doorknob would know that a rat does not announce its own presence.

Why, then, would a "rat" announce that he would turn into a rat at all? Why even mention it if you're a "rat"? There seems to be a logic breakdown.

bugs is basically advocating lynching a townie on the basis he might not be town later. It's so *lazy*.

Hello, oh sparkly one. I wish I could see in colors!

The dog does not understand your slowness. Perhaps the sparkles are too much? Please, do not pay attention to the tail. It can be very distracting.

*woof woof*

Let me tell you a story, that I had told our crocodile friend. Mr Crocodile, I asked him, what would you do if you were the last crocodilian to live? Sorry, I suppose that is not specific enough. What if someone else said they were the last crocodilian?

I am the one true dog. There is no other dog. No other woofs and pants and licks and wags like me. The rat said he was the true dog. This made the dog angry.

Do you understand now, oh sparkly one? Surely you have realized-there cannot be two dogs.

I also smelled, that the impostor rat seemed oddly...familiar. Do you know of the Hindus? It was like that, as if the rat wanted to be an elephant. But that the elephant wasn't satisfactory, so he chose to try to become a dog.

I know this is all confusing, but let me put it this way: in a past life, I believe I had a trunk. I still sometimes feel the urge to snort water.

Remember, I am the one true dog. You may choose to put me down today, put me out of my misery. I am okay with that. Sometimes the dog must make the sacrifice for the greater good. However I do not think that you would be very happy with me afterward. You would see that then I would have been more useful in your service. As a guide doc, perhaps-to lead the blind and the ugly. And to bring in the chickens and herd sheep.

this literally answers none of the issues i raised

Do you not read, oh sparkly one?

If someone were to come and say, "I am the one and only sparkly one." Would you not seek to smite him?

Perhaps my dog brain is more sophisticated than yours. For that. I apologize for the confusion. Perhaps we can talk when you are done pondering incontemplatables.

No, that's completely irrelevant. I understand your original push on Kurumi, because he was claiming to be your personality. I get that.

That's not what I brought up in my post. What I brought up in my post was the following:

1) why would you think mafia would announce that they were town but would turn into mafia? Why on earth would mafia say this?
2) why did you still want to lynch him when the host called him town. why were you lazily saying "we should kill this townie now because he may not be town later" instead of wanting to lynch actual mafia?

These things have nothing to do with Kurumi claiming your personality.

Oh yes, sparkly one, you are quite the nitwit.

Once upon a time, there was legend, of a time when the eagles ruled. Do you know what I am talking about? During this time, the eagles hunted all the rats. The sniveling, dirty, poop-sniffing (although I admit I do it too) rats. All through this era, no rat was spared. After all, why trust any rat? Once a rat, always a rat. At least, until The Punishment.

The Punishment cannot be spared for any rat. If we were to allow the mouse to become a rat, would we not have some problem?

The rat Kurumi had said, maybe later I may still be a rat. But how would we know if he becomes a rat? Sure, maybe as a mouse he will tell us. Then why indeed did he also think it the right thing to do? Maybe he, as a mouse, could only win with mice if he choked on cheese. The Punishment made him forever a mouse. Sometimes there are traitor mice. In this case the true rats could use the mouse and spread the Plague!

However, one must remember: the dog knew that the rat was spreading lies. The dog will not tolerate that, no. Any such rat will quickly become the dog's chew toy.

Perhaps you will understand this now. Alas, the dog has qualification exams and has not been vigilant. Perhaps soon he will become a guard dog.

He wasn't a rat, and he was mod-confirmed as not being a rat today. your whole argument stinks. HE WAS NOT A RAT.

Twice now our dog has claim doc
on his soft claim I lay a pox
we need a full claim
giving half is so lame
I think I believe him. Not!

The funny thing is that since Kurumi died, we have not heard one single fucking word from bugs who he'd like to lynch. Not a peep.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 18:08 GMT

#986

On March 12 2013 03:07 yamato77 wrote:

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You say that like you ever listen to me, lawlz.

I do actually bbygrl <3

marvellosity

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March 11 2013 18:10 GMT

#990

On March 12 2013 03:09 yamato77 wrote:
Prom, kill super with me.

Marv, you too. You know super as town is not a pile of shit.

He's obviously here, reading the thread, he's just fucking off.

I say that's mafia super right there.

maybe. i'm willing to wait a while to see what he has to say though.

bugs on the other hand has so far wanted to kill a mod-confirmed townie and done jack shit since.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 18:15 GMT

#994

On March 12 2013 03:12 wherebugsgo wrote:
##unvote
##vote iamperfection

*whispers* Chezinu gives reasons for his reads! :O

marvellosity

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March 11 2013 18:16 GMT

#1000

On March 12 2013 03:15 slOosh wrote:

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lol dude stop sidestepping

yamato shot modconfirmed town

Be clear with it: do you think he is town?

Cause right now all you are doing is theorizing on how viable of a mafia move it is, not how scummy yamato actually is.

how is that sidestepping in the slightest? I don't understand why mafia would claim shooting a mod-confirmed town when the other option was not to claim it and not receive any heat at all for it. So yes, I think he's probably town.

marvellosity

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March 11 2013 18:31 GMT

#1010

On March 12 2013 03:30 wherebugsgo wrote:

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Oh great Hero, please explain to the dog. The dog disagrees. While the dog is chasing cats, the imperfect one is quiet. The dog is used to seeing the imperfect one. The dog smells funny things when the imperfect one is absent.

funny that you're calling someone mafia when they're posting in a different style than normal ^^

Do you disagree with the actual content contained within his posts?

marvellosity

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March 11 2013 18:58 GMT

#1019

On March 12 2013 03:51 wherebugsgo wrote:

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the bird is not speaking the truth.

The dog would like proof.

On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.

he was town

marvellosity

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March 11 2013 19:16 GMT

#1028

On March 12 2013 04:15 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yamato's defense for everything is that the other person's argument is stupid because he is obviously town.

He calls people out for being scum and never expands on it, which Sloosh just mentioned. The only time he expanded on calling someone scum was on VE, and he quoted 1 post and called him scum in like 2 sentences. I'm not sure why you guys call that scumhunting...

Hiro is calling me scum because he is OMGUSing.

@Vivax: The reason I did not attack Yamato when you did was because I was either playing SC2 (yesterday evening) or I was asleep. I've made it quite clear why I think Yamato is scum and my vote is backing that up.

your defences have been markedly worse bish

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 19:21 GMT

#1036

On March 12 2013 04:19 slOosh wrote:
I don't trust yamato's mouth. All I see, and all anyone from a town p.o.v. shoud see is that kita modconfirms Kurumi as town, and then 2 hours later modconfirmed town Kurumi gets shot.

On the most basic of levels, a town yamato means there is a role that checks someone and if they are green they get shot some time (2 hours) later. Clearly the shot did not immediately follow the check, cause if it did Kurumi would have died right then and there. I mean, you caught me with this kind of bs in bureaucracy when I pretended to be vig right? How is this claim so easily believable?

As for "is yamato a good enough scum to pull it off" - there are many experienced players in this game and it's not too hard to see some on being scum team.

so in your little theory yamato makes the choice to shoot the one mod-confirmed townie?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 19:29 GMT

#1046

On March 12 2013 04:27 slOosh wrote:

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No need to be condescending.

Is "yamato couldn't pull this off" the sole reason for your town read on him? Big enough to excuse any and everything scummy about his play?

it wasn't being condescending, it was a genuine question which you've not confirmed for me.

I'm asking, is that what your theory of what he did rests on.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 19:34 GMT

#1054

On March 12 2013 04:31 supersoft wrote:
addtion to B) 2. the claim was probably unnecessary, a more likely option would have been to not claim. but who know what possibilities there are to detect the personalitly of a player.

this is what I can't get over, whether there are possibilities for discovering the personality of a player or not. if he's playing like mafia in a couple of days time then he can be lynched still. i just don't understand the risk.

say there are roles that can find out personalities or even role PMs. yamato has made himself a prime cop check candidate. If he's town, are mafia just gonna frame him every night? well, good.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 19:35 GMT

#1056

as you know supersoft, yamato was lynched in our last game as mafia for not doing anything and disappearing. this doesn't feel like that at all.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 19:36 GMT

#1058

On March 12 2013 04:32 austinmcc wrote:

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BC doesn't seem to want to talk about anything that isn't Foolishness/ver/slOosh. Why petition him?

also i completely debunked his point on iamp by actually providing a quote from a town iamp game, and he's decided to selectively ignore that.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 19:41 GMT

#1063

On March 12 2013 04:39 Vivax wrote:
I actually do believe that the mod-confirmation came from yamato himself as part of the role, the problem is simply the timing, the choice of targets and the process before. If he was town he would have poked more or pushed people instead he chose a dude roleplaying a troll in a crossfire of accusations who asked to be lynched. A perfect target for scum with a role that could probably only shoot day 1 (that's my assumption).

I have to be honest I don't have strong scumreads yet aside from him and keep searching for other options but yamato is a guy who I don't want around with all these doubts about him and some weird defences that don't seem to make sense.

No stupid things, we go the safe way and lynch the guy who killed town D1 without any remorse.

He should be lynched today

do you think yamato was compelled to claim his shot?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 19:46 GMT

#1068

On March 12 2013 04:41 supersoft wrote:

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yes thats true.

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and thats also true.

but the delay is also strange. and the timing is - in my opinion - only wrong for a townie. So wrong I want to cry.

yuh, i agree. i think town-yamato is WAY more impulsive than mafia-yamato, though.

I think he is town but I'm not certain of this fact. But there's enough there that makes me not want to lynch him today. Vivax/you/slOosh are right - it IS a good scumshot. There's no denying that. Still dunno why he claimed that shit though. And if it was actually a planned mafia-move, I would have expected a more concise, well thought through explanation.

Remember that slOosh was talking about when he fake-claimed vigilante in Bureaucracy? Look at the difference - slOosh took however long he took constructing a post to look as good as he could make it to try to give his claim legitimacy. That's what a scumclaim like that usually looks like. yamato's is shit and all over the place, like it's not planned at all.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 11 2013 19:49 GMT

#1073

On March 12 2013 04:47 austinmcc wrote:
marv, say I put you on the police force of my fine town which you should elect me mayor of.

Do you use your check on yamato tonight?

(note: I don't put anybody on a police force. This is hypothetical, just less dumb than my normal hypotheticals)

not in the slightest