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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22403 Posts
March 11 2013 19:57 GMT
#1081
On March 12 2013 04:47 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:42 Vivax wrote:
Marv I know you usually have early scumreads and push them as town, now you prefer to hard-defend yamato and aren't dead set on an own read, let that guy defend himself, defend him with your vote please.

You're taking a chance on a lynch because of a vig shot rather than him being the scummiest person. He's active and thus will reveal himself. What do you think of Crossfire, WBG or slOosh? Surely they're scummier than Yamato if you ignore the vigshot?


I think the way SlOosh is pushing the lynch shows he really wants to get him lynched so I don't think he's scum. As for crossfire, he didn't post much but called out a few people, claimed to be busy and sheeped Mocsta on Bugs while not thinking yamato is scum so I'll roll with slightly town cause I feel that he's putting himself out there and actually interested in taking part in the game.

Bugs idk but I would probably policy lynch him if he doesn't change his play cause I understand less than I'd like to.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 11 2013 19:57 GMT
#1082
@Austin Ok, makes sense. I just wanted to hear your thoughts.

Now onto why I'm so adverse to a Yamato lynch. It's a tossup between if you believe his claim or not. There are significantly scummier people (Bugs, Xfire) and a scum lynch today reduces scum KP. Why would we leave it to something we can't confirm or deny when there are scummers amongst us who are obvious? Yamato will post and give us more info to go off of tomorrow or the day after. I'd love to hear anyone say why we shouldn't lynch the obvious scum over someone whose lynch is based off of a role we can't confirm.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 19:57 GMT
#1083
On March 12 2013 04:53 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:50 marvellosity wrote:
I've been extremely open in my discussion of this, slOosh, you just don't like what i have to say.

cuz you still haven't mentioned anything about my behavioral analysis points

so yea, not honest


yamato is generally all over the place as town, if you read This Town mafia he receives heat at various point for jumping around with his reads and being inconsistent. He replaced me as mafia in YANMM (i think) and he was mafia in Fruity that super and I played in, and he was quiet and consistent with his reads. What I've seen so far is basically the opposite of what I would expect to see from a mafia yamato.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 19:59 GMT
#1084
On March 12 2013 04:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:47 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:42 Vivax wrote:
Marv I know you usually have early scumreads and push them as town, now you prefer to hard-defend yamato and aren't dead set on an own read, let that guy defend himself, defend him with your vote please.

You're taking a chance on a lynch because of a vig shot rather than him being the scummiest person. He's active and thus will reveal himself. What do you think of Crossfire, WBG or slOosh? Surely they're scummier than Yamato if you ignore the vigshot?


I think the way SlOosh is pushing the lynch shows he really wants to get him lynched so I don't think he's scum. As for crossfire, he didn't post much but called out a few people, claimed to be busy and sheeped Mocsta on Bugs while not thinking yamato is scum so I'll roll with slightly town cause I feel that he's putting himself out there and actually interested in taking part in the game.

Bugs idk but I would probably policy lynch him if he doesn't change his play cause I understand less than I'd like to.


you must be kidding. a one-line sheep followed by a completely unfulfilled promise:

On March 12 2013 00:14 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On March 12 2013 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
So you're just giving us a one-liner that you agree with someone else's case then, Crossfire?

That'd be ill if that's all I did. I posted a few phat things I found, but I'm still looking and will post the gnarly things as I find them.


and you're leaning town on him? what are you smoking? how is he in any way interested in the game? holy shit vivax.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22403 Posts
March 11 2013 19:59 GMT
#1085
Can't remember yamato being inconsistent and jumpy in LIX he basically tunneled me throughout the game.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 20:00 GMT
#1086
On March 12 2013 04:59 Vivax wrote:
Can't remember yamato being inconsistent and jumpy in LIX he basically tunneled me throughout the game.


go read his most recent towngames then.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 11 2013 20:01 GMT
#1087
On March 12 2013 04:59 Vivax wrote:
Can't remember yamato being inconsistent and jumpy in LIX he basically tunneled me throughout the game.
Ymmv, but Yamato looked super scummy in LIX to me. Don't remeber if it was for being inconsistent and jumping, but I remember being convinced he was scum and that being one of the things I was horribly wrong with, because there was something he did that made him town.
Fe fi fo fum.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 11 2013 20:01 GMT
#1088
On March 12 2013 04:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:47 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:42 Vivax wrote:
Marv I know you usually have early scumreads and push them as town, now you prefer to hard-defend yamato and aren't dead set on an own read, let that guy defend himself, defend him with your vote please.

You're taking a chance on a lynch because of a vig shot rather than him being the scummiest person. He's active and thus will reveal himself. What do you think of Crossfire, WBG or slOosh? Surely they're scummier than Yamato if you ignore the vigshot?


I think the way SlOosh is pushing the lynch shows he really wants to get him lynched so I don't think he's scum. As for crossfire, he didn't post much but called out a few people, claimed to be busy and sheeped Mocsta on Bugs while not thinking yamato is scum so I'll roll with slightly town cause I feel that he's putting himself out there and actually interested in taking part in the game.

Bugs idk but I would probably policy lynch him if he doesn't change his play cause I understand less than I'd like to.


you must be kidding. a one-line sheep followed by a completely unfulfilled promise:

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 00:14 Crossfire99 wrote:
On March 12 2013 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
So you're just giving us a one-liner that you agree with someone else's case then, Crossfire?

That'd be ill if that's all I did. I posted a few phat things I found, but I'm still looking and will post the gnarly things as I find them.


and you're leaning town on him? what are you smoking? how is he in any way interested in the game? holy shit vivax.


I'm sure this reminds you of LX
where when shit hit the fan viv hit the deck
I was obvious scum
but Viv said null/dumb
I think he needs a wee deck.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 11 2013 20:01 GMT
#1089
On March 12 2013 05:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:59 Vivax wrote:
Can't remember yamato being inconsistent and jumpy in LIX he basically tunneled me throughout the game.


go read his most recent towngames then.


alternative target? Bugs?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22403 Posts
March 11 2013 20:01 GMT
#1090
Marv I'll try to put this nice you prefer to argue that someone is townie instead of arguing that someone is scummier than that guy and should be lynch that is worrying and not productive you are being unnaturally sure that yamato is town at this stage.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 20:02 GMT
#1091
why don't you answer me on Crossfire, Vivax. Your read fucking blows my mind.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 11 2013 20:03 GMT
#1092
marv could you give me an update
of who it is you hate
which one of these is a scum
are they all still null/dumb?
please answer, as it may placate.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 20:03 GMT
#1093
On March 12 2013 05:01 Vivax wrote:
Marv I'll try to put this nice you prefer to argue that someone is townie instead of arguing that someone is scummier than that guy and should be lynch that is worrying and not productive you are being unnaturally sure that yamato is town at this stage.


It feels like you're not reading the thread at all.

On March 12 2013 04:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:41 supersoft wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:34 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:31 supersoft wrote:
addtion to B) 2. the claim was probably unnecessary, a more likely option would have been to not claim. but who know what possibilities there are to detect the personalitly of a player.


this is what I can't get over, whether there are possibilities for discovering the personality of a player or not. if he's playing like mafia in a couple of days time then he can be lynched still. i just don't understand the risk.

say there are roles that can find out personalities or even role PMs. yamato has made himself a prime cop check candidate. If he's town, are mafia just gonna frame him every night? well, good.


yes thats true.

On March 12 2013 04:35 marvellosity wrote:
as you know supersoft, yamato was lynched in our last game as mafia for not doing anything and disappearing. this doesn't feel like that at all.


and thats also true.

but the delay is also strange. and the timing is - in my opinion - only wrong for a townie. So wrong I want to cry.


yuh, i agree. i think town-yamato is WAY more impulsive than mafia-yamato, though.

I think he is town but I'm not certain of this fact. But there's enough there that makes me not want to lynch him today. Vivax/you/slOosh are right - it IS a good scumshot. There's no denying that. Still dunno why he claimed that shit though. And if it was actually a planned mafia-move, I would have expected a more concise, well thought through explanation.

Remember that slOosh was talking about when he fake-claimed vigilante in Bureaucracy? Look at the difference - slOosh took however long he took constructing a post to look as good as he could make it to try to give his claim legitimacy. That's what a scumclaim like that usually looks like. yamato's is shit and all over the place, like it's not planned at all.


how is this 'unnaturally sure' yamato is town? Hello?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22403 Posts
March 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1094
I go with the few I have on him, I won't go into something as unproductive as talking about my townreads thanks I answered to stutters.

Also yours isn't a question it's a statement, I took a look at his filter and this is the summary of it.
+ Show Spoiler +
he didn't post much but called out a few people, claimed to be busy and sheeped Mocsta on Bugs while not thinking yamato is scum so I'll roll with slightly town cause I feel that he's putting himself out there and actually interested in taking part in the game.

Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 11 2013 20:05 GMT
#1095
On March 12 2013 04:40 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
@Austin:

How many electoral votes do you need to be elected?

If elected, what is your long-term plan for this town?
I do not know how many votes, only that I feel compelled to run for office. I must do so.

Long-term plan is simple, win the game. I want to lynch WBG today, hopefully get some vig shots into our useless players/lurkers/folks hiding only behind personalities (last one reads "Crossfire").

Mid-term, I don't think we can do anything other than figuring out which currently-useless vets are to be trusted, and which aren't. Depending on their activity and how that goes, that could possibly take us into D3. We have a lot of big names. We have a lot of nothing. I expect there will be some activity and some "game-solving," and discussion will naturally turn towards figuring out what to trust there.

Long long-term, I want to have lynched all the scum so I can start speculating wildly about third parties and stupid crap like that. However, I will attempt to hold that in until later.


Thank you. I would like to expand on this:

What executive powers do you have that will benefit the town? Are you aware of the powers the office of the mayor holds?

I'm considering making you mayor, I just want to know what you are going to be able to do for me.
Grubby's #1 Fan
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 20:06 GMT
#1096
On March 12 2013 05:01 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 05:00 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:59 Vivax wrote:
Can't remember yamato being inconsistent and jumpy in LIX he basically tunneled me throughout the game.


go read his most recent towngames then.


alternative target? Bugs?


I'd love to lynch bugs but I'm not convinced how wise it is. Vivax has just shot way up in my lynch-dar, along with Crossfire for the reasons I'm attacking Vivax over.

prplhz, seemingly someone only I've mentioned at all, has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. He could well be a good lynch.

Corazon maybe I could give another day to see if he un-retards himself. He's at least moderately active.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 20:08 GMT
#1097
On March 12 2013 05:05 Vivax wrote:
I go with the few I have on him, I won't go into something as unproductive as talking about my townreads thanks I answered to stutters.

Also yours isn't a question it's a statement, I took a look at his filter and this is the summary of it.
+ Show Spoiler +
he didn't post much but called out a few people, claimed to be busy and sheeped Mocsta on Bugs while not thinking yamato is scum so I'll roll with slightly town cause I feel that he's putting himself out there and actually interested in taking part in the game.



it's not a summary at all. how do you read a broken promise to contribute as interested in the game?

How is he putting himself out there?

I want to understand the process where you arrived at slightly town for Crossfire because I do not see it at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 11 2013 20:08 GMT
#1098
yeah prplhz why not... I don't like wbgs rhyming though... It's so useless
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 11 2013 20:09 GMT
#1099
the dog forgot that the discolored one was playing in this game.

the dog can confidently say that the dog is not a rat, however.

The dog is less sure that the imperfect one is anything but a chicken. Perhaps the discolored one should be stamped out instead.

##unvote
##vote prplhz
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 11 2013 20:10 GMT
#1100
##shoot prplhz
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