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On March 13 2013 02:43 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Crossfire. Who has links for me? I'm not familiar with his play, and I don't know what games he's played. He played in Aperture 2, it was kind of a weird game and he was a member of a hidden 2nd scum team.
Whose Line Is It Anyway - town Themed Mafia - mafia MTG 2 - mafia
the main reason I (we? everyone?) didn't lynch him was because his last minute pop in to the thread seemed genuine. Now I'm not so sure about that at all.
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On March 13 2013 02:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote: He pushed 1 town read.
Apathetically watched WBG get lynched with his vote on yamato.
Is this inaccurate? He didn't spam up the thread asking for a yamato lynch, that would be accurate. But you initially said he didn't push anything, now you admit he did, so you should know that part of your argument for him being scum doesn't hold, don't you?
this is really dumb nitpicking. stop it.
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On March 13 2013 02:49 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 01:55 strongandbig wrote:On March 13 2013 01:52 Acrofales wrote: Oh, and one other thing. What "balance" reason can anybody come up with for giving a scum a modconfirmed DT check? If the DT check was also Yamato, how the fuck does that work as scum? And if he got it, why in god's name would he EVER use it? foolishness or radfield role is town powers but scum aligned, they're well known for being amazing as town but both terrible as scum and hating to play scum. like how wbg role was town powers but scum aligned the day vig would have been the hidden "beneficial" side of the power, he wouldn't have been told about it until after the public dt check happened. I thought you were pretty levelheaded and townie at the time, but this post is not making sense to me. WBG's role was survivor, not scum aligned. His powers were meh. Unless you are talking about Kurumi, in which case he was town aligned, not scum aligned at all. The impression I got from Yamato is that he knew all along what his power would do. Now, why would scum get a DT check? It makes no sense. Even if it is combined with a dayvig. Either Yamato is lying about how his power works, or he is town. The role makes NO sense for scum.
I'm pretty wary of this argument. Just because it makes no sense, it doesn't mean that it's in fact not the case ;p
there's enough other reasons to make a read of the situation one way or another without worrying whether a role makes sense for a particular alignment.
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On March 13 2013 02:51 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 02:45 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 02:43 HiroPro wrote:On March 13 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Crossfire. Who has links for me? I'm not familiar with his play, and I don't know what games he's played. He played in Aperture 2, it was kind of a weird game and he was a member of a hidden 2nd scum team. Whose Line Is It Anyway - town Themed Mafia - mafia MTG 2 - mafia the main reason I (we? everyone?) didn't lynch him was because his last minute pop in to the thread seemed genuine. Now I'm not so sure about that at all. This describes my feelings too. I've had lingering doubts about Crossfire based on how he was roleplaying early on - then he came back and it looked like he was going to contribute, but then roleplayed some more. Then he came back and was suprsrsmode - and he was on the block. Like, everyone has a vested interest in not getting lynched, but it just seems to me that we wouldn't have been in a position where Xfire was up for lynch if he'd played the way he was playing at lynch time like, all day. I'm gonna go peruse those games, let me know your thoughts on his meta (since you seem to be familiar already) while I'm gone.
Crossfire is way lurkier as scum and way less interested in engaging with the thread. Just like this game really. I also know from playing mafia with him in Themed, he finds it difficult to post as mafia, I had to encourage him several times.
There's one interesting point about his de-lurk at the "day light savings" deadline. bugs was the clear, clear vote leader until really quite late. Well, until right about we were all switching on to Crossfire, actually.
Theorising, this could mean Crossfire wasn't posting because he was "safe", and as the lynch swung violently towards him, suddenly started posting.
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On March 13 2013 02:56 Vivax wrote:
You were willing to bet a townie life against a check that no one would believe cause it would have been a D1 check.
Why do you keep saying this? I don't understand it at all.
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I've talked about what I think of yamato ad infinitum, I don't feel the need to do so anymore.
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I'm rather hoping you get shot, actually.
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On March 13 2013 03:15 austinmcc wrote:Was away for a moment, noticed slOosh talk. I checked Personality 1 because I thought there'd been a role that had to tunnel someone and only post on them. Didn't find it, but maybe skipped over. Is there anyone known for just fighting with MZ every game they're in? I agree with slOosh being a futureproblem, but his activity being ONLY to tunnel made me think that perhaps it's a personality limitation, despite most personalities in this game not coming with the same extreme limitations that they came with in 1. Couldn't find a particular role, but if there's a player known for fighting with MZ, or a player known just for tunneling, it's a possible explanation (that doesn't say anything about his alignment  )
Pointless speculation really, dear.
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On March 12 2013 13:53 slOosh wrote: My scum read on yamato is even stronger now. Take out the Kurumi shot out of his filter and what you are left with is a bunch of one liners throwing doubt and pointing fingers at everyone. Not only that, there is absolutely no consistency with his reads at all. Multiple times he calls slOosh and Cora scum and they get left out of his final reads, he bothers to put in a post detailing people he would liked lynched yet doesn't move his vote on WBG, indicating he doesn't really care if crossfire were to die (does yam think he is town? scum? who knows?). That plus the problems I have concerning his role usage => this dude is scum.
People think otherwise about the role usage: I invite those people to look into his filter (aside from the role stuff) and tell me what they think. Marv I think you mentioned his meta - I'm most familiar with town yamato from Nomination, where he carried town at the end. Dunno his scum meta, but clearly he can play decent town (posting wise and whatnot).
I'll be taking this night to review stuff I missed during the day. Still gonna tunnel yamato though unless people can provide more than "yam's balls too small for that". If you want opinions on specific things ask and I'll address them when I can.
Does anyone else find it weird he talks about himself in 3rd person here? I know people do so occasionally but I've never seen slOosh do it I don't think.
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no, you're probably right. I was just thinking about it and I think I do it myself in certain contexts.
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makes me sound like Gollum. thanks bish.
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On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote: Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o
I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner.
Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one.
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On March 13 2013 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote: I've never claimed like that. /indignant
i know, it's actually an extremely dull way for the role to work because I can't even get at all creative with it.
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On March 13 2013 04:31 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:27 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote: I've never claimed like that. /indignant i know, it's actually an extremely dull way for the role to work because I can't even get at all creative with it. Perhaps you don't have to claim to be checking only your targets?
No, I have to be extremely specific on exactly who I'm targeting.
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On March 13 2013 04:31 VisceraEyes wrote: No way you are demanding RB or Framer. Just like I'm demanding KP tonight. I think it's adorable. <3
adorable, perhaps. more annoying. lol
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On March 13 2013 04:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote: Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one. And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this?
why don't you stop asking really stupid questions?
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On March 13 2013 04:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote: Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one. And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this? why don't you stop asking really stupid questions? It's in your interest to answer me before I leave. You are confirmed liar (: . Nice that you call Foolishness scum over a lie that is arguably not as bad as yours. For some reason you wanted to appear as cop over parity cop which would appear more dangerous for scum, so it doesn't make sense for you to lie about it this way if you're town. Scummarv claims cop → I can claim to have gotten any check back I wanted. Scummarv claims parity cop → My checks are limited and if one guy is of one alignment the other must be of the opposite Townmarv claims cop → I look more dangerous for scum and am at risk of getting RBd/killed. Also I won't actually know if someone is really scum after N1 even though I claimed I would. Townmarv claims parity cop → Honest answer, town will know what it has to expect. Summary: Townmarv wouldn't lie about being a cop over a parity cop. [/spoiler]
If you are somehow town, you are by far the worst player I have ever played with in all my games of mafia. By far. You are so atrocious it's unbelievable.
How is saying parity cop over cop (hello, both cops) worse than using a lie to call someone mafia? what drugs are you smoking? what was my motivation for doing that as mafia? why am i doing it as town? maybe to try to be vague so mafia don't know EXACTLY what I'm doing? what the fuck is wrong with you?
why are you questioning me on the specifics of my blue role at night? WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT?
If you're town, you actually need psychiatric help because you're fucking insane.
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On March 13 2013 04:48 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:42 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:38 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2013 04:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote: Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one. And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this? why don't you stop asking really stupid questions? It's in your interest to answer me before I leave. You are confirmed liar (: . Nice that you call Foolishness scum over a lie that is arguably not as bad as yours. For some reason you wanted to appear as cop over parity cop which would appear more dangerous for scum, so it doesn't make sense for you to lie about it this way if you're town. Scummarv claims cop → I can claim to have gotten any check back I wanted. Scummarv claims parity cop → My checks are limited and if one guy is of one alignment the other must be of the opposite Townmarv claims cop → I look more dangerous for scum and am at risk of getting RBd/killed. Also I won't actually know if someone is really scum after N1 even though I claimed I would. Townmarv claims parity cop → Honest answer, town will know what it has to expect. Summary: Townmarv wouldn't lie about being a cop over a parity cop. If you are somehow town, you are by far the worst player I have ever played with in all my games of mafia. By far. You are so atrocious it's unbelievable. How is saying parity cop over cop (hello, both cops) worse than using a lie to call someone mafia? what drugs are you smoking? what was my motivation for doing that as mafia? why am i doing it as town? maybe to try to be vague so mafia don't know EXACTLY what I'm doing? what the fuck is wrong with you? why are you questioning me on the specifics of my blue role at night? WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT? If you're town, you actually need psychiatric help because you're fucking insane. Oh we're back to this Foolish didn't lie to call you mafia he allegedly lied to say he's not sure about you. Marvybaby so mad  , ragequit like in LVIII please instead of spamming your one-liners  [/spoiler]
he didn't "allegedly" lie, HE ADMITTED TO LYING.
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On March 13 2013 04:55 Vivax wrote: Anyway marv lied about his role and refuses to give reasons, there are no good reasons for him to lie about the role as town so likely scum.
When confronted with it he tries to draw a comparison with Foolish's lie instead of trying to explain how it would be more beneficial for him to lie about it as town with the excuse of it being night.
Bad excuse, scum knows his role his targets and the role is modconfirmed so marv is being scummarv and also very provocative. Kill it with fire.
This is deliberate retardation and provocation. Someone MUST shoot this guy tonight.
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On March 13 2013 04:55 Vivax wrote: Anyway marv lied about his role and refuses to give reasons, there are no good reasons for him to lie about the role as town so likely scum.
When confronted with it he tries to draw a comparison with Foolish's lie instead of trying to explain how it would be more beneficial for him to lie about it as town with the excuse of it being night.
Bad excuse, scum knows his role his targets and the role is modconfirmed so marv is being scummarv and also very provocative. Kill it with fire.
Yes, *I* was the one to draw a comparson with Foolish's lie. OH WAIT NO IT WAS YOU WHO BROUGHT IT UP
On March 13 2013 04:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote: Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one. And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this? why don't you stop asking really stupid questions? It's in your interest to answer me before I leave. You are confirmed liar (: . Nice that you call Foolishness scum over a lie that is arguably not as bad as yours.
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