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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 05 2013 01:28 GMT
#121
I would love to shadow. I'm certainly not new, but I am bad.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
December 05 2013 03:04 GMT
#122
On December 05 2013 10:28 Risen wrote:
I would love to shadow. I'm certainly not new, but I am bad.

but you won heavyweights and maintained the most awesome diary ever! :>

awesome bump - wasn't aware of this. really busy in the next few weeks but definitely interested.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 05 2013 03:11 GMT
#123
Scum top tier. Town bottom tier. It's a problem
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
December 05 2013 03:15 GMT
#124
On December 05 2013 12:11 Risen wrote:
Scum top tier. Town bottom tier. It's a problem

Serious q cos im not familiar with your scum game.

Is the scum top tier *BECAUSE* of town being bottom tier?

i.e. leeway is giving to you that isnt to players of a higher standard town game?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 05 2013 03:37 GMT
#125
On December 05 2013 12:15 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 12:11 Risen wrote:
Scum top tier. Town bottom tier. It's a problem

Serious q cos im not familiar with your scum game.

Is the scum top tier *BECAUSE* of town being bottom tier?

i.e. leeway is giving to you that isnt to players of a higher standard town game?

I honestly don't think so. That is a good question, though.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 04:26:55
December 05 2013 04:25 GMT
#126
I think I'd learn a lot from both having a green newbie shadowing me and by shadowing a more experienced player.

On December 05 2013 12:37 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 12:15 Mocsta wrote:
On December 05 2013 12:11 Risen wrote:
Scum top tier. Town bottom tier. It's a problem

Serious q cos im not familiar with your scum game.

Is the scum top tier *BECAUSE* of town being bottom tier?

i.e. leeway is giving to you that isnt to players of a higher standard town game?

I honestly don't think so. That is a good question, though.

Different question: is the town bottom tier because of scum being top tier? Do you get mislynched *because* people are wary of your scumgame?
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 05 2013 04:58 GMT
#127
On December 05 2013 12:37 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 12:15 Mocsta wrote:
On December 05 2013 12:11 Risen wrote:
Scum top tier. Town bottom tier. It's a problem

Serious q cos im not familiar with your scum game.

Is the scum top tier *BECAUSE* of town being bottom tier?

i.e. leeway is giving to you that isnt to players of a higher standard town game?

I honestly don't think so. That is a good question, though.


As top tier town more of your cases need to be right and on scum.

As town Risen(today), less of you cases have to be right.

As scum Risen, I would be fairly sure that other players dont regard a bad (not top tier) case on fellow towny read of theirs as a sure scum sign from you. They know you can be and are wrong as town.

If you become better as town, and habitually put out cases that make sense to other top tier townies. Then as scum you're going to have to learn to fake them.

Not trying to talk you out of learning to improve town, more pointing how much "fun" it will be trying.

Getting better is work. That is why being better is worth something.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 05 2013 09:24 GMT
#128
On December 05 2013 13:58 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 12:37 Risen wrote:
On December 05 2013 12:15 Mocsta wrote:
On December 05 2013 12:11 Risen wrote:
Scum top tier. Town bottom tier. It's a problem

Serious q cos im not familiar with your scum game.

Is the scum top tier *BECAUSE* of town being bottom tier?

i.e. leeway is giving to you that isnt to players of a higher standard town game?

I honestly don't think so. That is a good question, though.


As top tier town more of your cases need to be right and on scum.

As town Risen(today), less of you cases have to be right.

As scum Risen, I would be fairly sure that other players dont regard a bad (not top tier) case on fellow towny read of theirs as a sure scum sign from you. They know you can be and are wrong as town.

If you become better as town, and habitually put out cases that make sense to other top tier townies. Then as scum you're going to have to learn to fake them.

Not trying to talk you out of learning to improve town, more pointing how much "fun" it will be trying.

Getting better is work. That is why being better is worth something.

Huuough
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 05 2013 09:24 GMT
#129
Well anyway /shadow epic town ppls pm me
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2013 09:27 GMT
#130
On December 05 2013 18:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Well anyway /shadow epic town ppls pm me


You have to PM us actually. I'm all booked up right now but if you are interested in the next few months I might be able to fit you in. If you want something sooner I'm sure you could find someone else willing to take you on.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
December 05 2013 10:36 GMT
#131
This thread gave a neat idea for a new game: Shadow mini mafia.
9 (or 11) experienced players that are all shadowed by inexperienced players. Then either replace all the original players by their shadow after 2 days or follow it up instantly with a new game with all the shadows to try to make them apply what they learned from shadowing immediately.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2013 10:43 GMT
#132
would prefer the direct follow up version. With the caveat that those who shadowed one alignment but rolled the other would not have learned much of use and you couldn't mirror the alignments. WAIT! YOU TOTALLY COULD. Reveal who the shadows are, do not reveal who they shadow. Each shadow gets the same alignment they shadowed. Could be epic.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 05 2013 17:56 GMT
#133
On December 05 2013 19:43 Promethelax wrote:
would prefer the direct follow up version. With the caveat that those who shadowed one alignment but rolled the other would not have learned much of use and you couldn't mirror the alignments. WAIT! YOU TOTALLY COULD. Reveal who the shadows are, do not reveal who they shadow. Each shadow gets the same alignment they shadowed. Could be epic.

I'm down
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
December 05 2013 18:38 GMT
#134
I think that shadow mini sounds really cool.

I also want to /in as a shadow with no particular preference for player or game, really just as soon as is feasible.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2013 18:41 GMT
#135
We're working on setting one up as we speak. I have no idea when/if it will occur but let it be known that attempts are being made to create such a game.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 05 2013 19:58 GMT
#136
I would offer to be a player to be shadowed, but I'm not playing much anymore.
Writer@WriterYamato
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