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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 01:24 GMT
#937
On March 11 2013 10:18 nobodywonder wrote:
^ Darn lurkers, they have to post at some time though. Yet we dont have replacements.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 09:47 MeatlessTaco wrote:
On March 10 2013 09:45 geript wrote:
Here's the option I like the most:
## vote omnieulogy
You're interested in finding out Luneth's alignment and doesn't change a thing. I'll explain more in detail late tonight but here's a summary:
Soft defenses of Artic
Nothing but mudslinging
Further suspicions without trying to actually pressure
Overall no interest in pressuring players
Interest in wasting time discussing worthless matters
Presenting 2 bad cases without follow up


If OE is scum, he deserves to live a couple more days.


This quote still really bothers me. Strange defense of OE. May be important when we get a mislynch or good lynch.

I've actually been playing the idea in my head of them both making eh cases against each other and just try and do a double bus that they hope builds really good credability.

Theres one thing that bugs me about Taco is if he was innocent, the mafia would have had plenty of time to jump on his bussing and make sureh e died instead of arctic or NW sense his bus was running out anyways.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 01:25 GMT
#938
On March 11 2013 10:23 Rainbows wrote:
apparently nothing is up at all *sigh* make interesting things happen. I already gave my stuff on ML and what I wanted from Taco... but considering neither of them have done anything since...

Maybe we should lynch Matriarch because she's a girl?

Save it for when we don't got cases going.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 01:28 GMT
#939
On March 11 2013 10:25 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 10:23 Rainbows wrote:
apparently nothing is up at all *sigh* make interesting things happen. I already gave my stuff on ML and what I wanted from Taco... but considering neither of them have done anything since...

Maybe we should lynch Matriarch because she's a girl?

Save it for when we don't got cases going.



You know what I take back what I said. What the hell is that Rainbow? Like, I want to forget my assumption on your earlier play especially after you lurked, and you come back and say this when weve got it pretty focused. And you pick someone random for no good reason? What.... why?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 02:20 GMT
#947
On March 11 2013 11:14 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 10:24 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:18 nobodywonder wrote:
^ Darn lurkers, they have to post at some time though. Yet we dont have replacements.

On March 10 2013 09:47 MeatlessTaco wrote:
On March 10 2013 09:45 geript wrote:
Here's the option I like the most:
## vote omnieulogy
You're interested in finding out Luneth's alignment and doesn't change a thing. I'll explain more in detail late tonight but here's a summary:
Soft defenses of Artic
Nothing but mudslinging
Further suspicions without trying to actually pressure
Overall no interest in pressuring players
Interest in wasting time discussing worthless matters
Presenting 2 bad cases without follow up


If OE is scum, he deserves to live a couple more days.


This quote still really bothers me. Strange defense of OE. May be important when we get a mislynch or good lynch.

I've actually been playing the idea in my head of them both making eh cases against each other and just try and do a double bus that they hope builds really good credability.

Theres one thing that bugs me about Taco is if he was innocent, the mafia would have had plenty of time to jump on his bussing and make sureh e died instead of arctic or NW sense his bus was running out anyways.


correct me if I'm wrong but Taco hasn't come out and claimed I am scum has he?

Also, basically the consensus is that I've bussed every single scum suspect in the game at this point, and made a case against one when I could have just lynched Arctic... AND have set up to lynch another of my scum buddies? You guys are conspiracy theorists. It's expected to an extent in mafia but holy shit lol If I were scum this game I woulda placed a vote on NW and then pretend to be AFK while Arctic was being lynched. No reason for me to put myself out there this much as scum when myself AND Taco were not under any kind of pressure at all. But everybody agrees he's scummy and I just randomly decided to bus him half way through D1 for no reason?

This is what has been bothering me all game long. You people agree with my reads and continue to assume I'm mafia.

I wouldn't call Arctic your read, not by a long shot. If I recall you said he was just as scummy as every other lurker so stop. And I've already said your bellow taco and luneth and were much more grey then red to me. Please relax.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 11:26 GMT
#979
Well, looks like were devolving into Chaos... yay.

Come on Rainbows, what did I just say last page? I really really really want to try and bury the idea that your scum in my mind, but your not acting like the rainbows from the first day, you just come in and randomly post random people that need to die and its really starting to bug me. You've made one case, and I think it is a weak one at best and yo u have a 2 page filter with mostly useless gunk or responses. You either need to stop lurking, or your my day 3 canidate at this rate. Hell you might take Day 2 away from Taco Or Luneth, cause god do I hate all three of you right now. Like, you have no idea the migrain I'm getting as I read whats been posted sense last night. Why man? Why are you lurking so hard and only jumping on the Luneth case and making no real analysis of anything else. What are your thoughts on Taco? You've called some of the cases comparing similar actions to the two that Taco is often times more scummy then Luneth with how hes acting.Why is Omni so pro town like you say? Welcome to Mafia, where the only confirmed towns already flipped.

Luneth, my reasons for hating you haven't changed sense last time, like I'm almost certain your going to die I just don't think your less hurtful then the single active scum player I know we have to have somewhere in this thread. TAco, you get the same response.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 11:32 GMT
#980
EBWOP: I meant for Taco that my thoughts on him haven't changed. Not that I think hes the third unactive scum player and I wanna catch someone else.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 17:09 GMT
#993
On March 09 2013 09:04 Mocsta wrote:
Vote Count

Krafla (0): WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, Arctic Daishi
MLuneth (0): Rainbows, nobodywonder
nobodywonder (4): MeatlessTaco, ChewOnStu, Rainbows, TheRavensName, Matriarch, MLuneth, Krafla, Arctic Daishi
bduddy (0): nobodywonder, Frorgon
Arctic Daishi (6): MLuneth. WaveofShadow, TheRavensName, bduddy, OmniEulogy, MeatlessTaco, Frorgon
ChewOnStu (0): Rainbows, MeatlessTaco, TheRavensName, nobodywonder
TheRavensName (0): bduddy
Frorgon (2): OmniEulogy, Rainbows, WaveofShadow, Arctic Daishi
MeatlessTaco (1): OmniEulogy, Frorgon, nobodywonder

No vote:
F
Arctic Daishi is currently set to be lynched. 1 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.


To me this is the biggest evidence against meatless. If mafia wanted to save arctic they could have jumped oon meatless, which would put him in the lynch and saved arctic by keeping omni and frogon on meatless and off arctic and then they could have blamed omni,s case and might have gotten away with it or built time to make new myslynch cases together afterwards. Mluneth still just seems like a guess to me by most people.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 19:40 GMT
#1003
On March 12 2013 04:13 Rainbows wrote:
I don't think that's evidence at all to lynch Taco. Mafia could have just as easily ganged up on NW (like they probably were, anyway).

Either way, it's what mafia COULD have done, in short, WIFOM. He's my second target right now, and I'd still prefer a ML lynch.


Well I'm going to put it like this. If Meatless and NW were both innocnet, the Mafia could have jumped on Meatless and then risked it either way cause we couldnt get arctic if Omni Frorgon didn't move. Even if they were both mafia, they could have just called Arctic a dumb random lynch and hoped we either let NW die or jumped on Meatless, either way they win because we couldn't have gotten arctic if they didn't swap.

But if NW, Arctic, and Meatless are all Mafia... then it was a bad play for meatless to bus NW before Arctic even showed up sense it could have cost him pretty bad if NW got lynched cause of it and Arctic got mod killed without a replacement, sense our replacement went onto chew,. And even then, Meatless should still be hunged today for being mafia. Mluneth makes sense as a 3rd mafia person, but hes not the same threat as meatless is if hes mafia.

Yes its WIFOM, but it is more of a reason then we got for Luneth. Luneth just seems only to be getting a lynch for being a lurker when there are other lurking canidates.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 19:41 GMT
#1004
On March 12 2013 04:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn you all, the thread explodes after I leave for a while?
I read through it but have to read more closely to get a good idea of where we stand.
Some quick off-the-cuff thoughts:
Krafla - Either very devious mafia (getting some serious coaching/help or something) or super newbie. I'm leaning towards the second. Krafla you were not roleblocked by town, we don't have a roleblocker, only JK who blocked me.

MeatlessTaco - I'm still not set on changing my vote to him as he hasn't come back since the beginning of the day. Without more information I'm going to do a read of Luneth's recent (HORRIBLY FORMATTED) defenses.

MLuneth - Reading now. Don't think his case against Rainbows stands.

Mafia does have one though, or at least its not out of the question they do.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 19:58 GMT
#1007
On March 12 2013 04:44 Rainbows wrote:
But I want my random vote D1 to be correct T.T

The big issue I have with lynching Luneth is that he was the first person to vote on Arctic. Granted it was only a pressure vote but... why would you pressure vote someone you know for a fact isn't there if you have a QT they hadn't showed up in yet and then say your just doing a random lurker pressure? He could have hit chew or someone else first. Seems a touch early for a bus, but I'm not ruling it out as a possibility... just I think its a less likely possibility.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 20:08 GMT
#1009
On March 12 2013 05:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 04:58 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:44 Rainbows wrote:
But I want my random vote D1 to be correct T.T

The big issue I have with lynching Luneth is that he was the first person to vote on Arctic. Granted it was only a pressure vote but... why would you pressure vote someone you know for a fact isn't there if you have a QT they hadn't showed up in yet and then say your just doing a random lurker pressure? He could have hit chew or someone else first. Seems a touch early for a bus, but I'm not ruling it out as a possibility... just I think its a less likely possibility.

Because it's fairly obvious he could be lying. If you'll remember we had a few other people do the exact same thing, Taco's vote on Cos/Geript being one of them.

'Voting pressure' on lurkers who are barely in the thread is barely pressure at all, and is a scummy way of making your vote LOOK like it matters where it is. I learned this in my first NMM game.


I understand that. Thats why I want more information before I make myself go after Luneth... and I'm not saying anything until after the flip.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 20:36 GMT
#1018
On March 12 2013 05:32 MeatlessTaco wrote:
Did we ever figure out why there was no night kill?


Cause you left your house with an empty gun.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 20:39 GMT
#1022
On March 12 2013 05:38 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 05:36 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:32 MeatlessTaco wrote:
Did we ever figure out why there was no night kill?


Cause you left your house with an empty gun.

Reverse Misogyny -- Trying to say he's shooting blanks. That's just not nice.


Say Hello to the bad guy then.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 20:40 GMT
#1023
On March 12 2013 05:39 Rainbows wrote:
Me and Geript are the scumteam, you got us.

Nutter Butter team completely destroyed by taco.


To be fair, Nutter Butters taste horrible mixed with Mexican.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 20:44 GMT
#1027
On March 12 2013 05:43 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 05:39 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:38 geript wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:36 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 12 2013 05:32 MeatlessTaco wrote:
Did we ever figure out why there was no night kill?


Cause you left your house with an empty gun.

Reverse Misogyny -- Trying to say he's shooting blanks. That's just not nice.


Say Hello to the bad guy then.

I say hello to him again. Hello Bad Guy. How you doing? Why you want steal my nutter butter?

##unvote
##vote meatless taco


Cause I'm here to Hang Mafia's and eat nutter butters... and I'm all out of Mafias to hang.

Well, least I will be after today.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 20:56 GMT
#1030
On March 12 2013 05:44 MeatlessTaco wrote:
##Vote: MLuneth

I don't see it, but you all seem to be so sure of yourselves.


Your helping so much right now I'll just get it out of the way even though I was said I was waiting till the flip.

Up until this point, Mluneth and Meatless have done their best to avoid each other. Look at the day one votes, they both voted for the same people, Mluneth only voted twice, and both of their votes are exactly after four other people had voted on the other persons target. They both also soft defended Arctic after trying to get some pressure out of him, Luneth hasn't mentioned Meatless at all, and Meatless has only made soft defenses of Luneth, saying he didn't believe he was red.

Why do I find this an interesting note when I look at their filters?

Meatless is interested in lynching scummylurkers that seemed to just be jumping on bandwagons, like the one he started on NW, and then lurking. Luneth has done this the entire game and yet hes still just an eh read to Meatless.

Meanwhile, Luneth wants to go after people who target lurkers but then don't make a good defense of themselves, such as NW. However, Meatless has done this the entire game, its a very similar MO as what Rainbow has done really especially sense Meatless is willing to just limp along after being aggressive when he reaches his final resting point for the day.

So if Taco is lynched up scummy, Luneth gunna need some hard splainin to get himself out of my cross hairs.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 21:12 GMT
#1034
On March 12 2013 06:06 MeatlessTaco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 06:01 Rainbows wrote:
@Taco

If you are town: Give us cases / reads on people you believe to be scum. We need all the information we can get if this is a mislynch.


lol. Town will mislynch through day 4, but it should still be an easy town win. You don't need nor want my help.


I'm gunning for the Hattrick on this one, so I doubt it.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 22:10 GMT
#1038
On March 12 2013 07:06 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 06:06 MeatlessTaco wrote:
On March 12 2013 06:01 Rainbows wrote:
@Taco

If you are town: Give us cases / reads on people you believe to be scum. We need all the information we can get if this is a mislynch.


lol. Town will mislynch through day 4, but it should still be an easy town win. You don't need nor want my help.


Seriously?

Put your hubris aside and tell us your thoughts. WE CAN TRUST THEM IF YOU FLIP TOWN.

If you're scum, die silently.


We don't want his help or need it because hes scum, obviously. Its a soft confession xD
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 23:26 GMT
#1054
On March 12 2013 08:19 geript wrote:
What if there are two mistakes?


I hope after this games ends, I can hang you with Meatless's entrails.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 23:40 GMT
#1057
On March 12 2013 08:38 Rainbows wrote:
I can't believe nobody wants to vote ml with me after his blatant lies. Oh wells.

I hate meatless more, we can get ML tomorrow.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
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