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On March 09 2013 10:00 WaveofShadow wrote: since LX is going on I think we'll have to tone it town at first.
Discussions regarding on-going games may result in instant mod kill. You have been 'informally' warned.
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And also, we still need to keep an eye on anyone that defended or refused to vote for AD, even if they eventually switched (once it became relatively obvious that he was going down). Matriarch, MLuneth, and Krafla never switched their vote; I'd be willing to bet at least one of them was scum trying to keep AD in it.
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Apologies. In an effort to suck up to you, I enjoy your inclusion of VE in the flavour text?
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For the record, Luneth looks to be the scummiest of the three since he actually showed us that he came back and STILL willfully abstained from switching despite no appropriate reason to back it up.
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On March 09 2013 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Apologies. In an effort to suck up to you, I enjoy your inclusion of VE in the flavour text? Thank Acro He has been doing a great job writing up the flavour. I am merely a vote tallier. All credit goes to him
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^ btw check the vote tally again:
He was the first to vote on Arctic Dash, but never switched and still had his vote on me at the time of the lynching. FoS
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Great job everyone. Day 1 lynching of scum in a newbie game? I'll take it!
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On March 09 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:I would like to take FULL credit for this as I got the bandwagon going. + Show Spoiler +Just kidding, well done everyone! Huge props specifically to TRN for his support too, this basically makes him confirmed town in my eyes. + Show Spoiler +
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On March 09 2013 10:04 bduddy wrote: And also, we still need to keep an eye on anyone that defended or refused to vote for AD, even if they eventually switched (once it became relatively obvious that he was going down). Matriarch, MLuneth, and Krafla never switched their vote; I'd be willing to bet at least one of them was scum trying to keep AD in it.
I still say Taco is mafioso #2 but for the sake of argument
Town Taco
Mafia had more than enough chances to jump at my invitation to lynch Taco, I feel the case was and still is well made and perfectly acceptable.
Only Frorgon and NW joined the wagon attempt on Taco and both switched to Arctic before the lynch. possible bus, but they weren't needed for the lynch and could have claimed my case made more sense than a shot at the dark into our lurker pool.
Scum Taco
We forced scum into deciding who to lynch, those who started the Arctic lynch are town, I'm town for trying to lynch Taco, Remaining mafioso most likely on the NW Wagon or bussed Arctic because Taco is more valuable (possible mafia power role as Arctic was a regular goon).
I'm extremely happy with this lynch either way and this is just quickly how I see us proceeding if we look at Taco as being under suspicion.
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hehe well im spent, I look forward to what the lurkers Matriarch, Kafla say. Woot ~ exciting game
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On March 09 2013 10:13 nobodywonder wrote:hehe well im spent, I look forward to what the lurkers Matriarch, Kafla say. Woot ~ exciting game + Show Spoiler +
Nobody live? Only Barely.
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I am definitely willing to take another look at Taco, but right now I'm very suspicious of those who never came back and answered for their vote on NW. Wave's point on Luneth is very good because he never changed the vote, maybe in hopes that he'd get the lynch on NW and save arctic. He's also looking scummiest to me atm.
Also Omni, when I made my vote it was still tied with NW receiving the most votes first. So he was still set to be lynched. I was never completely convinced of your case against Taco. And Arctic certainly seemed scummy to me so why not change over to save NW? I was pretty sure at that point that not enough people would come over to Taco anyway to prevent a NW lynch.
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On March 09 2013 10:12 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 10:04 bduddy wrote: And also, we still need to keep an eye on anyone that defended or refused to vote for AD, even if they eventually switched (once it became relatively obvious that he was going down). Matriarch, MLuneth, and Krafla never switched their vote; I'd be willing to bet at least one of them was scum trying to keep AD in it. I still say Taco is mafioso #2 but for the sake of argument Town TacoMafia had more than enough chances to jump at my invitation to lynch Taco, I feel the case was and still is well made and perfectly acceptable. Only Frorgon and NW joined the wagon attempt on Taco and both switched to Arctic before the lynch. possible bus, but they weren't needed for the lynch and could have claimed my case made more sense than a shot at the dark into our lurker pool. Scum TacoWe forced scum into deciding who to lynch, those who started the Arctic lynch are town, I'm town for trying to lynch Taco, Remaining mafioso most likely on the NW Wagon or bussed Arctic because Taco is more valuable (possible mafia power role as Arctic was a regular goon). I'm extremely happy with this lynch either way and this is just quickly how I see us proceeding if we look at Taco as being under suspicion. I disagree with a lot of this. I agree that Taco is not out of the woods yet (still waiting on his reads) but in no way does this lynch confirm anybody as town, LEAST of all you. This is all WIFOM because if you're scum then it could just as easily follow that Taco is town and Frorgon is scum alongside you. (Hell, we might have only 2 scum and a 3rd party role) NW could also technically still be scum since I believe there has to be at least 1 scum amongst the NW-voters, which would mean scum are spreading out their votes to not look suspicious; an entirely likely D1 scenario.
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I think I was too early on Arctic if I was scum. Why would I bus him and just get lynched the next day myself.
I'm going to read the thread with this new information. I'll let you know who I suspect. I'll worry about countering specific arguments against me for later when we get to the day voting page, because without my own analysis on scum I don't expect it would help.
One thing to keep to yourself during the night is who you think is confirmed town. That just helps mafia plan the nightkill.
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On March 09 2013 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 10:12 OmniEulogy wrote:On March 09 2013 10:04 bduddy wrote: And also, we still need to keep an eye on anyone that defended or refused to vote for AD, even if they eventually switched (once it became relatively obvious that he was going down). Matriarch, MLuneth, and Krafla never switched their vote; I'd be willing to bet at least one of them was scum trying to keep AD in it. I still say Taco is mafioso #2 but for the sake of argument Town TacoMafia had more than enough chances to jump at my invitation to lynch Taco, I feel the case was and still is well made and perfectly acceptable. Only Frorgon and NW joined the wagon attempt on Taco and both switched to Arctic before the lynch. possible bus, but they weren't needed for the lynch and could have claimed my case made more sense than a shot at the dark into our lurker pool. Scum TacoWe forced scum into deciding who to lynch, those who started the Arctic lynch are town, I'm town for trying to lynch Taco, Remaining mafioso most likely on the NW Wagon or bussed Arctic because Taco is more valuable (possible mafia power role as Arctic was a regular goon). I'm extremely happy with this lynch either way and this is just quickly how I see us proceeding if we look at Taco as being under suspicion. I disagree with a lot of this. I agree that Taco is not out of the woods yet (still waiting on his reads) but in no way does this lynch confirm anybody as town, LEAST of all you. This is all WIFOM because if you're scum then it could just as easily follow that Taco is town and Frorgon is scum alongside you. (Hell, we might have only 2 scum and a 3rd party role) NW could also technically still be scum since I believe there has to be at least 1 scum amongst the NW-voters, which would mean scum are spreading out their votes to not look suspicious; an entirely likely D1 scenario.
I'm saying if Taco is scum in that scenario o.O and I never said NW was town in any of that I agree that I think it's possible that 1 scum was on NW, and if Taco is also scum, he bussed Arctic. I'm not sure where you are disagreeing considering you just went over everything I said =/ And I never claimed town from this lynch either. lol I didn't really discuss this lynch just the fact that Taco is still probably scum and he bussed Arctic because the only two choices were himself or arctic.
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On March 09 2013 10:27 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 09 2013 10:12 OmniEulogy wrote:On March 09 2013 10:04 bduddy wrote: And also, we still need to keep an eye on anyone that defended or refused to vote for AD, even if they eventually switched (once it became relatively obvious that he was going down). Matriarch, MLuneth, and Krafla never switched their vote; I'd be willing to bet at least one of them was scum trying to keep AD in it. I still say Taco is mafioso #2 but for the sake of argument Town TacoMafia had more than enough chances to jump at my invitation to lynch Taco, I feel the case was and still is well made and perfectly acceptable. Only Frorgon and NW joined the wagon attempt on Taco and both switched to Arctic before the lynch. possible bus, but they weren't needed for the lynch and could have claimed my case made more sense than a shot at the dark into our lurker pool. Scum TacoWe forced scum into deciding who to lynch, those who started the Arctic lynch are town, I'm town for trying to lynch Taco, Remaining mafioso most likely on the NW Wagon or bussed Arctic because Taco is more valuable (possible mafia power role as Arctic was a regular goon). I'm extremely happy with this lynch either way and this is just quickly how I see us proceeding if we look at Taco as being under suspicion. I disagree with a lot of this. I agree that Taco is not out of the woods yet (still waiting on his reads) but in no way does this lynch confirm anybody as town, LEAST of all you. This is all WIFOM because if you're scum then it could just as easily follow that Taco is town and Frorgon is scum alongside you. (Hell, we might have only 2 scum and a 3rd party role) NW could also technically still be scum since I believe there has to be at least 1 scum amongst the NW-voters, which would mean scum are spreading out their votes to not look suspicious; an entirely likely D1 scenario. I'm saying if Taco is scum in that scenario o.O and I never said NW was town in any of that I agree that I think it's possible that 1 scum was on NW, and if Taco is also scum, he bussed Arctic. I'm not sure where you are disagreeing considering you just went over everything I said =/ And I never claimed town from this lynch either. lol I didn't really discuss this lynch just the fact that Taco is still probably scum and he bussed Arctic because the only two choices were himself or arctic. Oh, derp I think I stopped considering that you were speaking hypothetically somewhere in there? In any case, I think we may need to be careful as to how much scumhunting we do tonight, though if things go as I might expect them to, I think D2 might be just as easy as today was despite the lurkers.
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However @WoS can we make anything out of this?
On March 08 2013 23:53 Arctic Daishi wrote: Sorry for the late replies everyone, I have been studying like crazy for midterms. Spring break starts today so I'll have a lot more freetime to participate now!
##vote: Krafla
On March 09 2013 00:17 Arctic Daishi wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: nobodywonder
On March 09 2013 06:07 Arctic Daishi wrote: I honestly do not believe that nobodywonder is scummy, he seems to honestly want what's best for the town. Also, he has been very defeatist since being accused and has stated his intention of welcoming his lynching if it helps the town. I hereby:
#unvote #Vote: Frorgon
The Omni's case against Frorgon is simply too great to ignore.
On March 09 2013 09:13 Arctic Daishi wrote: #unvote #Vote: nobodywonder
Although its not generally great to give town reads at night, I don't see the issue with discussing these in general.
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I still am saying it looked to me like you were trying to save him Taco. Scum could have easily jumped on you pretty hard if you were a townie, seeing as how the only reason we managed to get so many people on arctic was the people on taco gave up trying to convince the rest of us when it seemed easier to just lynch Arctic. You could have easily sacced him after trying to excuse him in an attempt to distance yourself.
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On March 09 2013 10:33 TheRavensName wrote: I still am saying it looked to me like you were trying to save him Taco. Scum could have easily jumped on you pretty hard if you were a townie, seeing as how the only reason we managed to get so many people on arctic was the people on taco gave up trying to convince the rest of us when it seemed easier to just lynch Arctic. You could have easily sacced him after trying to excuse him in an attempt to distance yourself.
especially after Raven picked up on this
On March 08 2013 14:17 MeatlessTaco wrote: EBWOP: Artic Daishi has to be a null read. If you haven't voted yet, vote for someone else. He'll be replaced soon.
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+ Show Spoiler +~ (c)awwwwww (c)awwwwwwwwwwww no one caught my pun spoiler. On March 09 2013 10:18 TheRavensName wrote:Nobody live? Only Barely.
be careful mafia, i will punish you!
on serious notes:
I really do believe the possibility of busing Arctic. It was painfully obvious Arctic was going to get it. Although I'm curious, wouldn't mafia be there to advise Arctic's actions? So perhaps there are mafia in the lurkers.
lurkers should say hi and contribute
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