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On February 28 2013 11:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I just want to understand why you chose defense as pressure. How did you anticipate prom would respond like he did?
I actually didn't. I was honestly leaning town on him until he made such response. Some aspects of his play looked suspicious, while others were too loose and carefree, thus town looking. I opted to make a defense without stating my reasons to get responses mostly from other players who were not commenting on his lynch. I suspected that if I started the trend and he was scum soon enough other players would join me and provide their own reasons. Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes.
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On February 28 2013 11:40 JungleJorge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:33 MilkSuckler wrote:
JJ I dont like MachoMan either.
You mentioned filter diving before.. Can I get you to prioritise Geript pls?
My read on him has evolved since the lynch, I want to know if we are on the same page. I've actually looked at geript and don't think he should be one of our main suspects for tomorrow. I'm leaning town on him.
This actually aligns for me (as in I have gone from probably scum, to "null"
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On February 28 2013 11:45 JungleJorge wrote:
Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes.
Please expound
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On February 28 2013 11:45 JungleJorge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:39 DoctorHelvyetica wrote:
I just want to understand why you chose defense as pressure. How did you anticipate prom would respond like he did? I actually didn't. I was honestly leaning town on him until he made such response. Some aspects of his play looked suspicious, while others were too loose and carefree, thus town looking. I opted to make a defense without stating my reasons to get responses mostly from other players who were not commenting on his lynch. I suspected that if I started the trend and he was scum soon enough other players would join me and provide their own reasons. Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes.
That helps me a lot. Thanks. I'll be reading elsewhere tonight then.
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On February 28 2013 11:48 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:45 JungleJorge wrote:
Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes. Please expound
Already did so I'm my analysis of prome's response. Maybe you missed it?
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On February 28 2013 11:48 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:45 JungleJorge wrote:
Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes. Please expound
Attacking his defender is basically impossible logic for town. If prom was town then jj would have been correct, there would be nothing to criticize.
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Ink well
has run dry,
fill it with
blood of the scribe.
Aquanim believes that the Obvious One is a member of the cultist faction.
His reasons are:
- writing very much while saying very little
- having the faintest of ideas of who might be a cultist less than one hour into the show
- acting out as if I were a petulant child
To these statements, I say that I am indeed guilty.
Guilty. As. Charged.
Let us now, however, turn the tables and see how well the Aquatic One follows his own advice.
One case which he has been tunneling on for 48 hours:On February 26 2013 11:02 Aquanim wrote:
My current strongest scum read is ObviousOne for the reasons stated earlier. His protestations of "I can't give reads early" combined with the reads he has in fact given with little-to-no reasoning feels like scum trying to contribute without actually committing himself. I don't have time to analyse everyone's play at the moment so that's all I have for now.
When Aquanim is not busy telling everyone that I am definitely scum, he is asking questions. A great many questions. His case on me from two real days ago seems to be able to stand on its own legs despite the vast amount of further spam and pointless drivel I have provided and he has NOT sought to strengthen his case with the newest information up to this point? If he hasn't developed his case on me, where are the other scum reads he has promised? To this I say, we shan't let you get off on coasting with having a single solitary voluntary scum read outside of the two most promising lynch candidates of Day 1. You cannot, as I have done, sit back and simply ask questions and go along with the prevailing theories of town while keeping me as your scum read and not keeping up on developing your case. I'd believe you were town if you had been pushing your own read as evidence developed. You are no better than I.
Or how about the fact that both of us ask lots of questions, though we may choose different people to ask?
Observe both of our filters, and see how each of us has many many questions and very little opinion or analysis. Either Aquanim is playing the same relative level of town that I am or he knows I'm town and has used my early read as an opportunistic strike to put me on my back foot. Again, nothing he has said about me is wrong, but his filter is not too much different.
I'm not intentionally trying to be useless, I just have some level of bi-polar tendencies in that some days are good and others are bad, and the gap between is rather wide. Yesterday was bad, hopefully tomorrow is good.
The anvil cracks.
The hammer relentlessly comes down.
A new pariah is born.
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On February 28 2013 11:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:48 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 28 2013 11:45 JungleJorge wrote:
Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes. Please expound Attacking his defender is basically impossible logic for town. If prom was town then jj would have been correct, there would be nothing to criticize.
Yes; but JJ talks as if the reaction was intentional.
Maybe hes a super duper mafia player or whatever, but yeah, I dont see how that action is claimable for town cred.
If anything the action of prome, sealed his fate.. but also leaves JJ as null/leaning scum (I outlined reasons before)
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@Moc you're asking me to read, analyze and evaluate a filter from work on my phone. That is impossible.
@OO Is the bipolar an actual diagnosis you have received? If so which exact diagnosis if you don't mind. Or is it just self diagnosed.
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On February 28 2013 11:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:48 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 28 2013 11:45 JungleJorge wrote:
Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes. Please expound Attacking his defender is basically impossible logic for town. If prom was town then jj would have been correct, there would be nothing to criticize.
Which is only meaningful at that time - if it had been the whole town against JJ as it was later on in the cycle, that would have been different (being right when everyone else is wrong) but it was early on and only a handful of us were on him.
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On February 28 2013 11:54 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2013 11:48 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 28 2013 11:45 JungleJorge wrote:
Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes. Please expound Attacking his defender is basically impossible logic for town. If prom was town then jj would have been correct, there would be nothing to criticize. Yes; but JJ talks as if the reaction was intentional. Maybe hes a super duper mafia player or whatever, but yeah, I dont see how that action is claimable for town cred. If anything the action of prome, sealed his fate.. but also leaves JJ as null/leaning scum (I outlined reasons before)
I thought so too but apparently I misunderstood.
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On February 28 2013 11:50 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm not intentionally trying to be useless, I just have some level of bi-polar tendencies in that some days are good and others are bad, and the gap between is rather wide. Yesterday was bad, hopefully tomorrow is good.
I dont give a flying fuck about tomorrow being good.
You raise the play this cycle...
The whole "case" was a big wall of fluff... if you gotta problem with aqua.. put some fucking quotes that highlight how his questions go no where, and dont show a guy trying to figure things out.
saying, for me to filter dive both of you is a big waste of time.
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On February 28 2013 11:55 geript wrote:
@Moc you're asking me to read, analyze and evaluate a filter from work on my phone. That is impossible.
Apologies, I thought with the posts you were giving to VE you were back.
Trust me, I am understanding of phone posting.. heck.. its how I outted my smurf 
[fluff]
I dont think you woulda found me out, if prome didnt know it was me
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On February 28 2013 11:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:54 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 28 2013 11:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 28 2013 11:48 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 28 2013 11:45 JungleJorge wrote:
Obviously what I got was much better, basically a scum claim from prom in my eyes. Please expound Attacking his defender is basically impossible logic for town. If prom was town then jj would have been correct, there would be nothing to criticize. Yes; but JJ talks as if the reaction was intentional. Maybe hes a super duper mafia player or whatever, but yeah, I dont see how that action is claimable for town cred. If anything the action of prome, sealed his fate.. but also leaves JJ as null/leaning scum (I outlined reasons before) I thought so too but apparently I misunderstood.
Sorry, i read this a couple times and not sure where you stand. Can you please clarify?
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On February 28 2013 11:57 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:50 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm not intentionally trying to be useless, I just have some level of bi-polar tendencies in that some days are good and others are bad, and the gap between is rather wide. Yesterday was bad, hopefully tomorrow is good.
I dont give a flying fuck about tomorrow being good. You raise the play this cycle... The whole "case" was a big wall of fluff... if you gotta problem with aqua.. put some fucking quotes that highlight how his questions go no where, and dont show a guy trying to figure things out. saying, for me to filter dive both of you is a big waste of time.
This post is helpful feedback, thank you Mocsta. Good day, sir. I think I will ignore you since I don't want to have another shit-fest in the thread.
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I've looked into Testsubject and I'm leaning town. Looked into Jcarl and I'm leaning scum on him, but not with the same confidence of the other 2 I pointed. Some assistance would be appreciated on JC.
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On February 28 2013 12:03 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:57 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 28 2013 11:50 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm not intentionally trying to be useless, I just have some level of bi-polar tendencies in that some days are good and others are bad, and the gap between is rather wide. Yesterday was bad, hopefully tomorrow is good.
I dont give a flying fuck about tomorrow being good. You raise the play this cycle... The whole "case" was a big wall of fluff... if you gotta problem with aqua.. put some fucking quotes that highlight how his questions go no where, and dont show a guy trying to figure things out. saying, for me to filter dive both of you is a big waste of time. This post is helpful feedback, thank you Mocsta. Good day, sir. I think I will ignore you since I don't want to have another shit-fest in the thread.
Ignoring me is guaranteed to make me shove a foot up your ass.
And the comment was raised to you with the intent of constructive criticism.
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BC, how have you done nothing so far except for buddy me? You're better than that and you know well enough that those kind of things tend to throw me off.
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i agree with suckler that post by obvious one is completly useless and is overly defensive. reminds me of myself as scum in gsl 2 where i said basically said the same thing saying the only way to prove my towniness was by playing better. The only way you prove your town is by hunting scum and oo post does none of that and looks like a scum that is having a terrible time making case by trying to throw suspicion on aqua but not explaining why his actions are mafia motivated.
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