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Yes, all praise Toad, our holy saviour. Our mafia bonjwa.
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On February 28 2013 08:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 08:56 Wade Fell wrote:To close to the deadline for me to save my campaign now  Well, when it finally comes down to it, I have the power to choice who is the mayor and who is the pardoner. I am sorry, DrH, but I trust you more than VE, so you're the pardoner. You will 100% not use the power, and my townread on you is stronger than VE, so... ##unvote
##vote VEDrH has made sense from the start of the day. He is the only one who can be trusted with the power that moves up LYLO by a half-day, the pardoning power. I am sorry, VE. I know you didn't want this, but sometimes greatness is thrust upon the unsuspecting. I am suffering from flood control, so if I am unable to post in the voting thread between now and the deadline, hosts, please consider this to be a vote for VE. Like this is the only guy who's given reasoning as to why I make a better Mayor than Pardoner. Everyone else has just silently voted me and watched or been AFK during this, our most stressful hour.
LOL sorry the reason is "I don't trust you as much" but that's how it rolls sometimes.
I still want to find out what's going on with this:
On February 28 2013 05:01 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 05:00 Chezinu wrote:On February 28 2013 04:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
You are one of like five players who have no opinions on anyone. I just wonder why you think that's okay. The day isn't over yet. Have faith! oh and I do have opinions! read my filter! I just don't have anything solid yet. When I do, it will be heard! Yes... it will be heard... muhahahahah!
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vigis on ObviousOne MachoMan or Vivax, lurkers are also acceptable targets.
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that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow.
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Don't protect me. Just remove that thought from your head. Mafia wouldn't dare, I don't need protection.
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well done guys.
I am so ambivalent about this.
On one hand, its fantastic we nailed scum
On the other hand: this whole vote swap shenanigan was *so so SO stupid and dangerous*
I can understand Wade Fell grasping an opportunity to move into pardoner/mayor;
but the sheep votes is appalling (e.g. Glurio - tell me who to move on (there were others.. he was the one that immediately came to mind)
I am not saying everyone moving their vote is scum.
The problem is: that town can be so easily swayed and willing to change stance in the last minute... this plays directly into the vote mechanics scum want for the next cycles.
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Oh, cool. Gj guys.
On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow.
I'm not sure if I missed something, but why is laya confirmed town? And you would obviously say that you're confirmed town yourself...
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On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow.
I don't really like that you're declaring yourself confirmed town. I think DrH looks better as a result of this than you do.
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haha toad
anyways with weekend comes time so day 2 will be party time for grush
gj, I was actually doubting prome being scum.
Idk how laya is confirmed town at all
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On February 28 2013 09:06 layabout wrote:
vigis on ObviousOne MachoMan or Vivax, lurkers are also acceptable targets.
I want to know why you want me vigged but don't seem to find the arguments to make a case on me.
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BC looks somewhat bad balancewise I guess but there's no reason to shoot that. Shouldn't be too hard to figure him out later on.
Oh and yeah agree with Laya, MachoMan does look bad, probably even worse than Grush simply because it's IamP. IamP is literally the easiest guy to read on TL if he's town. No exaggeration. He's literally the easiest guy to read if he roles town. I haven't gotten him down as town so far. Have to check his filter again to make sure it's not laziness from my point of view though. Will comment on him in 16 hours or something like that.
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On February 28 2013 09:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Oh, cool. Gj guys. Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow. I'm not sure if I missed something, but why is laya confirmed town? And you would obviously say that you're confirmed town yourself...
I don't think Laya and VE would sheep me onto voting prom 2 hours into the game if they'd be in his team at all. No way at all.
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On February 28 2013 09:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 09:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Oh, cool. Gj guys. On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow. I'm not sure if I missed something, but why is laya confirmed town? And you would obviously say that you're confirmed town yourself... I don't think Laya and VE would sheep me onto voting prom 2 hours into the game if they'd be in his team at all. No way at all.
The mafia in fruity did the exact thing of what you just said.
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I didn't sheep you Toad I provided my own reasoning that you never commented on.
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On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow.
Disagree entirely.
And its been obvious you have been ramping up for this the entire D1 cycle.
All you did was point out an inconsistency in Prome play. - and then disappear from the thread to play DOTA
That doesnt make you town.
The people that fleshed out the case with scum behavioral analysis were people like Dr.H and Wade Fell (myself I believe too).
are certainly not purporting to being confirmed town...
so it is curious you care so much about your image to enforce this belief among town immediately.
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Toad.. give me 3 good well-reasoned points to why Grush is town.
And association with prome does NOT count... prome could have stuck up for starsenses regardless of alignment.
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On February 27 2013 23:28 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 22:39 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 27 2013 22:02 The Milkman wrote:
Seems like I have more time, so here is a quick note about Macho.
He has been doing this roleplaying thing - fine, he is easily readable through that so no problem.
At one point he started to shift towards Vivax lynch not Promethelax lynch. He seems to think that the biggest offence Prom did is leaving the thread. He attacks Vivax in the same post on the basis that he is trying to push people without concrete evidence. Then Vivax posts this bad post of his and Macho does a 180 and targets me.
Then, layabout defends me... I know he likes doing that as scum.
Lesson back will write more later Firstly, is this a point about Macho... or a point about layabout? Secondly, Im curious you find Macho "easily readable". Let me share a post about iamperfection in his concurrent game. On February 27 2013 From "This Town Ain't Big Enough"Iamperfection Town. He literally blurts out his reads as he sees them. This is vintage iamp town play. He's confident and not afraid to shove it in your face - linkDo not waste time considering him as scum. Now in that game; he gives direct scum read(s), fuck all justification. Typical iamp town core. This game; I challenge you/anyone to tell me who his top scum read(s) are.What I noticed was a lot of "+1" posts. I won't bother asking to show fuck all justification, because the whole filter reads like that. At least that is common across the two filters. Everything besides last line is about macho, then I started talking about layabout because he had defended me and Macho was talking with him about why he did so. I find Macho easy to read because besides him referring to himself in funny names and superbia his short posts are straight to the point. On my way home so I can finally read that layabout filter.
Nice and all.. but
On February 27 2013 22:39 MilkSuckler wrote:
This game; I challenge you/anyone to tell me who his top scum read(s) are.
What I noticed was a lot of "+1" posts.
I am still waiting for this....
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On February 28 2013 09:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 09:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Oh, cool. Gj guys. On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow. I'm not sure if I missed something, but why is laya confirmed town? And you would obviously say that you're confirmed town yourself... I don't think Laya and VE would sheep me onto voting prom 2 hours into the game if they'd be in his team at all. No way at all.
Why are you assuming Laya and VE are on the same team? I haven't had anything that's made me necessarily think laya is town.
It would be very easy for scum to gain town cred by sheeping Prom. From very early in the day, it was clear that he was going to be killed. The only real question was who would be the mayor to do it.
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On February 28 2013 09:12 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow. Disagree entirely. And its been obvious you have been ramping up for this the entire D1 cycle. All you did was point out an inconsistency in Prome play. - and then disappear from the thread to play DOTA That doesnt make you town.The people that fleshed out the case with scum behavioral analysis were people like Dr.H and Wade Fell (myself I believe too). are certainly not purporting to being confirmed town... so it is curious you care so much about your image to enforce this belief among town immediately. ========= Toad.. give me 3 good well-reasoned points to why Grush is town. And association with prome does NOT count... prome could have stuck up for starsenses regardless of alignment.
I called for a dayvig on him saying I'm not going to lynch anyone besides prom 2 hours into the game because that's how certain I was about him.
On February 26 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:prom could you respond to what I (and VE in response) said over here: Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys. On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout
Read his posts
hes scum Explain. For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically... On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.
My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read
## vote geript Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game. He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality. Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS. are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it? Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are This is something I noticed too. It sparked discussion - I'm left wondering what kind of discussion he thought RNG was supposed to generate if it didn't generate the kind he wanted. because again, the way you phrased that sounds awfully odd and I'm thinking of multiple explanations. None of them includes something you with a townie-mindset.
On February 26 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 10:21 Promethelax wrote:On February 26 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:prom could you respond to what I (and VE in response) said over here: On February 26 2013 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys. On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout
Read his posts
hes scum Explain. For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically... On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.
My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read
## vote geript Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game. He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality. Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS. are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it? Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are This is something I noticed too. It sparked discussion - I'm left wondering what kind of discussion he thought RNG was supposed to generate if it didn't generate the kind he wanted. because again, the way you phrased that sounds awfully odd and I'm thinking of multiple explanations. None of them includes something you with a townie-mindset. Because I wanted it to gain some real traction. I had an idea about actually getting close and withdrawing my nomination since if scum was up for lynch they'd be pushing me as mayor where if there was a townie up for lynch they'd be pushing against me. It's a plan that only works if I get support on it. That was the discussion I wanted to spark. why did you tell us about being just being a plattform to create talk with if you wanted it to get some real traction? That kind of counters your idea. I'd say you wanted to look like someone who wants to create discussion but wants to make sure he looks good. When it became too hot (and it didn't, the timing to go back on that was way to early if you wanted to achieve something, so you're overly defensive for whatever reason) for your idea you went ahead yelling GUYS GUYS, I BE TROLL LOL DON'T TAKE ME SERIOUSDo we have a dayvig? On February 26 2013 10:29 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2013 10:21 Promethelax wrote:On February 26 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:prom could you respond to what I (and VE in response) said over here: On February 26 2013 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys. On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout
Read his posts
hes scum Explain. For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically... On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.
My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read
## vote geript Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game. He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality. Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS. are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it? Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are This is something I noticed too. It sparked discussion - I'm left wondering what kind of discussion he thought RNG was supposed to generate if it didn't generate the kind he wanted. because again, the way you phrased that sounds awfully odd and I'm thinking of multiple explanations. None of them includes something you with a townie-mindset. Because I wanted it to gain some real traction. I had an idea about actually getting close and withdrawing my nomination since if scum was up for lynch they'd be pushing me as mayor where if there was a townie up for lynch they'd be pushing against me. It's a plan that only works if I get support on it. That was the discussion I wanted to spark. why did you tell us about being just being a plattform to create talk with if you wanted it to get some real traction? That kind of counters your idea. I'd say you wanted to look like someone who wants to create discussion but wants to make sure he looks good. When it became too hot (and it didn't, the timing to go back on that was way to early if you wanted to achieve something, so you're overly defensive for whatever reason) for your idea you went ahead yelling GUYS GUYS, I BE TROLL LOL DON'T TAKE ME SERIOUSDo we have a dayvig? On a different note: In case we don't have a dayvig I'll support anyone who runs of the platform of lynching Promethelax. I'd bet VE's left ball that prom is mafia right now. Anyways it's late, my english reads like a mentally handicapped writing because I'm really tired and make mistakes all the time (2:30 am over here) so I'll go to bed now.
On February 28 2013 09:12 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 09:11 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2013 09:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Oh, cool. Gj guys. On February 28 2013 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).
So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.
Grush is the next mafia that needs to be either shot or vigged.
See you tomorrow. I'm not sure if I missed something, but why is laya confirmed town? And you would obviously say that you're confirmed town yourself... I don't think Laya and VE would sheep me onto voting prom 2 hours into the game if they'd be in his team at all. No way at all. The mafia in fruity did the exact thing of what you just said.
And neither VE nor Laya would do that imo.
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EBWOP: sheeping to kill Prom
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