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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 05 2013 17:13 GMT
#3530
hey!
your edit makes me look dumb
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 05 2013 17:36 GMT
#3532
the point was that the mutant might b able to hold his shot by shooting himself since the mutant is immune to nk and would be able to keep their presence in the game hidden. But since the mutant is compulsive this would be again how the role is written and intended to be played. Staying hidden could help the mutant stay alive so would not be again his wincon
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 05 2013 18:46 GMT
#3536
Off for the night, might as well say that i approve of the geript lynch but prefer aqua, and that hassy is probably scum/3rd party else he would have been modkilled already
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 06 2013 16:31 GMT
#3643
apparently i look so scummy jj has to tell you all several times that he failed to send his action in.

.............................

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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 06 2013 18:48 GMT
#3649
Well in case i die you should lynch aquanim tomorrow,

after that you should lynch through
glurio
WaveofShadow
grush57?


glurio has been lurking very hard since day1 and has stayed out of the spotlight because of it. He also began treating vayesh as town very early on, and we can be relatvely sure that mafia felt threatened by BC since they offed him n1.
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On March 02 2013 01:17 glurio wrote:
Ok i caught up. (Kinda skimmed since grushs fakeshot.)
I believe vivax is telling the truth with his roleblock and vig statement.
Also i think chez is probably a misguided town-dayvig would scum be so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that?

I took a look at vayesh's filter. The reads he mentioned are the following:

Wade Fell
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On February 27 2013 06:36 VayeshMoru wrote:
It has come to the annuls of a man so lazy he forgot to don his mask. The shadows that adorned the face of this everywhere layer should come to reach the eyes of all. Tremble the men of black should start. The marching feet of justice shall not halt.


A list of reads by VE where he thinks Toad might be third party
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On February 27 2013 07:15 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 27 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:05 VayeshMoru wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
We're both pretty obviously lynching Prom. I'm not sure what you're getting at.


Thoughts on more than one you have. Thoughts plentiful the doctor does have. Whichever most fall in a parallel line shall be the course to the voting shine.


Yeah okay.

Well here's where I'm at.

MilkSuckler, Toadesstern, Promethelax

Clearly you've seen how Toad is trying to take credit for the Prom lynch. Milk did the same thing directly after WF's case. They have both been downright indignant about it.

What do you make of that? For my part I take it as scummy. I'm town, and my thoughts when others agreed was "whew" not "That bastard is trying to take credit for what I DID!" The scrambling for acknowledgement of their contributions to the upcoming lynch reads as trying to soak up town cred to me.


of those thoughts Vayesh sees one common thought. A second thought is almost in align and the third is not yet fully concluded. The amphibian seems more some mutating thing, or perhaps the one who sells spirits. The man of bovine is still not fully alluded.


geript
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On February 27 2013 09:25 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 27 2013 09:24 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 27 2013 09:21 geript wrote:
Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective.

You have a habit of not replying to all questions directed your way.

& not quoting the questions.. makes it hard to assess your filter.. I would like to assume this behaviour is not intentional.. even phone posting its not hard to click "quote"

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&currentpage=58#1156
For the question you chose not to address (for whatever reason)


the ripped man is a man of the darkness. His serpentine ways are merely a habit of his nature



Here a list of DrH where he agrees:
layabout
JJ
geript
testsubject
vivax
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On February 27 2013 11:17 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.

Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.

Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Gg no re

If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?

Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.

If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.


Vayesh likes the words flowing from your gallifreyan mouth. The synconization of thoughts is more alike than that of any other soul. The logical conclusion is to give you power of the death machines.


Toad scum/3rd party again
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On February 28 2013 07:40 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 28 2013 07:37 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:34 VayeshMoru wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:30 glurio wrote:
I actually really don't wanna vote for VE, all his comments about possibly not lynching prom based on whatever mood he has?
Why are you pushing for VEs election toad? There is a chance that he'll just lynch you, he already said that before. I don't get it.

he's kind of stupid and emotional but there's no way he's stupid enough to lynch me. He knows that'll get him instalynched if he's mafia and it has to be a joke trying to make me rage if he's town, though I don't really see the reasoning for that one...

Anyways, if Prom comes in 2nd there's literally no way any mayor we elect can pull bullshit on us. I like the idea and we can just ignore VE once he becomes mayor. At least that's my plan for d2.


VE has day vigi'd people who he knew were town (as town) to attempt to get someone he wanted lynched. He has revenge killed people for getting him lynched on bad play. He has countless number of examples of this style of play. You pushing for him this hard after his flip flopping of who he'd lynch compared to the steadfastness of Bh and drH baffles me.


I think I'm more safe if Prom comes in 2nd. As I just said there's literally no way anyone can not lynch that way.
VE comming in 1st while prom is not 2nd is kind of scary to be honest. He's incredibly volatile, incredibly emotional, as you just said but there's no way he could just not lynch prom if prom's the pardoner.

As I said, VE being mayor isn't what I want at all but when I said it he was at 10 votes and the 2nd guy was at 5 votes... I'm trying to make the best out of it. I don't want VE in either position to be honest but we'll have to work with him I guess.


Seriously stop dude. This entire play of yours is extremely anti town. I like VE. When hes on the ball he is a beast. Its getting him to that zone though and personally I find he works better at it with less pressure on him instead of more.

However you just said "him for mayor isn't what I want" and then describe him as volatile, and emotional" after calling him stupid.

If you were town you would not want this man in office.

Toad is scum / third party


geript again
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On February 28 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 28 2013 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's explicit in my posts, I have nothing to fear.


geript is scum so fear him you should not


Chez scum/3rd party
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On March 01 2013 08:50 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On March 01 2013 08:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Guess there can't be anything done about people not having a clue... Anyways shoot Macho / Grush and one out of BC / chez.
There'll be 2 or 3 mafias in there imo. The lynch on prom wasn't easy because it was an early bus (I know I'm town I am pretty damn certain VE and Laya are just being stupid right now) but because noone did something against it.
I'd say that means we have a vet on team mafia who wasn't around or wasn't active. That's BC and Chez for me right now. Maybe Dr.H because he started being active late but that's unlikely.

Don't lynch VE if someone was really stupid enough to shoot me because of what people said lately and don't listen to any "one of VE/Toad has to be mafia crap". We're both really egocentrical, both really volatile, both really proud, both resentful and those kind of attitudes easily clash with each other. So despite still being really angry about this game and being told I'm mafia for *insert random towntrait here* I realy don't think he's mafia.
Look for people who kept on telling bullshit about how we should be lynching into anyone like VE or me today (once grush and Macho are dead) because again, I'm pretty damn certain there won't be a mafia in Laya / VE and I'm also pretty damn certain Dr.H / BC aren't stupid.

Maybe BH is an alternative as well, he's been really unreasonable throughout d1 but that's kind of his thing so he's really hard to judge for me and I'd say BC / Chez are way more likely to flip mafia than BH is. Still, don't listen to anyone spouting nonsense about how we have to lynch into people looking good because the lynch was to easy. If that's the case (I'm pretty certain it wasn't) you deal with those people later on. Deal with people who are easy to read and lynch people who are looking bad because they're looking bad. Don't make it overly complex and try to pull big plays by lynching some random dude that makes 0 sense to lynch unless *insert fancy conspiracy theory* is true.

That's it from me for today. I ignored everything VE said.


This post from you shows a large lack of understanding of the bc and chez meta for mafia.

I will agree that chez is likely mafia or third party. My reasoning however is based on how upset he was about rolling red in LIX. He had 0 interest in the game when he rolled red then and similar level of sentiment here would indicate same shit. However given that he attempted to save some of his team in LIX and has done dickall here I would argue third party more likely than red.

Given that I was posting the way I was the contributions I made were imo fine as well as the fact I came out and stopped you from doing something stupid.

I am fine with a vig shot on macho or grush as they have near crap to really form a solid lynchable opinion on at this venture.

I seriously want someone to stop this shit ive seen reoccuring in virtually every game ive played in recently where people get to say "bc is scum or likely scum shoot him/lynch him" with no reasons posted. It leads me to post lists of who I think is scum and not give anyone the benefit of my thought process as people piss me off to the point I feel they don't deserve it.

Stop trying to discredit me without an actual case.


And his death post:
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On March 01 2013 08:57 VayeshMoru wrote:
not sure why obviousone is on so many lists -_-

However

Jcarlsoniv
Geript
Junglejorge
Layabout
Hassy
Chez

likely in that list is 2 mafia and 1 third party.

Haven't put in much more thought but RO, WF and milkman should all be on everyones watch lists as well. If DrH stops contributing like he did day 1 then hes likely third party.

Before anyone asks why I care about mafia and third party. Town has to off them to win as well.


If you just look at the posts i quoted isolated, geript is clear winner with 4 posts about him.
I do think we can find scum if we look at what he posted because there must be a reason why he got killed.

He mentioned the following people (number of times they got mentioned):

geript (4)
toad (2)
chez (2)
JJ (2)
layabout (2)
hasyy (1)
jcarlsoninv (1)
wade fell (1)
vivax (1)
testsubject (1)

He attempts to find mafia from vayesh's reads. Except all he does is say how many times vayesh mentioned people as scum reads and he concludes that geript must be the scum since he was mentioned 4 times. He does not try to add context or his own thoughts. His choice of geript is not linked to any analysis of gerpt's play.

Except he tries to defend chez who flipped mafia.


WaveofShadow was speculating about scum having a dayvig way before chez's shot:
On March 01 2013 05:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On March 01 2013 05:46 geript wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Suffice to say, I was taking a break from the thread at the time. You might not be able to tell from the thread, but I apparently lost it a little bit at the end of the phase there, and in an attempt to keep the thread atmosphere playable for everyone, I removed myself from the equation.

So are you trying to say now that your capsrage wasn't a planned move to try and move Dr.H into the mayor slot intentionally?

Maybe not on its own, but it probably was. it's the intention you're misreading.
If VE is town, then he is only furthering what he originally said about him not actively trying to attain the mayor role; his own vote change to DrH confirms this.
If VE is scum then you're saying he intentionally did it to try and get the pardoner position? I just don't see that as likely on its own; if the scumteam was trying to organize a bus anyway, why not put a scum member as mayor with two votes? I don't believe that DrH is scum so it doesn't make sense to give up the more powerful role to town, especially to someone as active and pro-town as he is.

It is possible they did this to try and mafia dayvig him at a later date or something (since a NK will be difficult with medics and such), but that seems too dangerous to me; for a scumteam the longer DrH is left alive the harder it becomes for them.
This is all a little WIFOM-y but I'm trying to get behind your point of view here, and it doesn't quite work.

Care to clarify your thoughts on the bus plan?

He is more likely to think this way if he knows that a scumdayvig exists (because he is mafia) but here he also talks about how shooting VE would be dangerous and this is more mafia oriented thinking than town.

I will look over his filter properly later though.


grush57 is here because it's hard to say if he is scum or town with his posting style and is dangerous to keep alive when there are so many people that look town.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 06 2013 21:18 GMT
#3661
On March 05 2013 07:39 Aquanim wrote:
I am fully aware of how terrible that makes me look and fully aware that you'll probably be obliged to lynch me at some point - if nothing else, to know that the roleblock today actually happened.



On March 07 2013 05:39 Aquanim wrote:
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On March 07 2013 03:48 layabout wrote:
Well in case i die you should lynch aquanim tomorrow,

Why? In case you haven't noticed, me faking a roleblock on myself as scum, and then claiming it after scum KP disappeared would be pretty daft.

why the sudden urge to stay alive?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 06 2013 22:01 GMT
#3664
not really, they have probly cost us a cycle or two though
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 00:04 GMT
#3667
well that sucks
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 00:56 GMT
#3687
scum haven't had enough shots for us to kill dr.h today

we lynch aqua today

maybe glurio since he looks very scummy

we lynch aqua today
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 02:00 GMT
#3699
glurio almost looks scummy enough for him to be a better lynch than aqua.

hence lynch aqua

if you think jj is scum then you are over thinking yourself into moronicity.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 04:07 GMT
#3732
MS can you spend some time getting your thoughts together and/or stop posting for a bit?

Your posts are all over the place.

You said extra kp night 1 was because of a scum JOAT when mafia KP was two and two townies died. And your filter is 26pages that i am not reading. Ever.


since an sk is even less likely given what we know we have even more reason to lynch aqua!

##vote aquanim


BH would have gotten his 3rd result today so even if he had bread crumbed his results n1 and n2 he wouldn't have known his sanity so his crumbs would offer us nothing.

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not sure why i am awake
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 14:19 GMT
#3787
I HATE YOU GUYS
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 14:27 GMT
#3791
For all intents and purposes we are treating vivax as town.

JJ is pretty much confirmed town.

We are not lynching testsubject since he looks town.

We might lynch gulrio since he provided nothing new today other than speculating that somebody is 3rd party which mafia are more inclined to do than town since mafia know whether somebody is mafia or not but they do not know if somebody is 3rd party.

Nobody has provided good reasons for us to not lynch aqua. Scum KP was missing but we are supposed to believe that scum didn't shoot and choose to block aquanim over the claimed vig or the claimed jailkeeper. The most likely scenario is that scum messed up their actions and aqua claimed a roleblock for towncred. It's also strange that he pointed out what in his filter is supposed to have drawn the roleblock since he has no need to attempt to drawn a roleblock and mafia would have no good reason to try to bluesnipe with their block when there are 2 claimed blue and 1 dead blue.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 14:27 GMT
#3792
Oh yeah and we aren't lynching jcarl
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 14:42 GMT
#3802
well vivax with 2-3 non-towns left in the game and 4 players that look worse then jacarl it sure would be stupid to go ahead and lynch him.

Is there more than randombum's case against jcarl? since the first point is invalid, jcarl gave rationale for not wanting to lynch chez that was valid and his contradictory behavior was not in fact contradictory
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 14:51 GMT
#3805
i'd would've sworn aqua had pointed it out but it appear he didn't

killing vivax today would be a sack of stupid.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 15:14 GMT
#3809
Milk glurio is a better lynch than WoS by miles
glurio has been lurking very hard since day1 and has stayed out of the spotlight because of it. He also began treating vayesh as town very early on, and we can be relatvely sure that mafia felt threatened by BC since they offed him n1.
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On March 02 2013 01:17 glurio wrote:
Ok i caught up. (Kinda skimmed since grushs fakeshot.)
I believe vivax is telling the truth with his roleblock and vig statement.
Also i think chez is probably a misguided town-dayvig would scum be so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that?

I took a look at vayesh's filter. The reads he mentioned are the following:

Wade Fell
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On February 27 2013 06:36 VayeshMoru wrote:
It has come to the annuls of a man so lazy he forgot to don his mask. The shadows that adorned the face of this everywhere layer should come to reach the eyes of all. Tremble the men of black should start. The marching feet of justice shall not halt.


A list of reads by VE where he thinks Toad might be third party
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On February 27 2013 07:15 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 27 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:05 VayeshMoru wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
We're both pretty obviously lynching Prom. I'm not sure what you're getting at.


Thoughts on more than one you have. Thoughts plentiful the doctor does have. Whichever most fall in a parallel line shall be the course to the voting shine.


Yeah okay.

Well here's where I'm at.

MilkSuckler, Toadesstern, Promethelax

Clearly you've seen how Toad is trying to take credit for the Prom lynch. Milk did the same thing directly after WF's case. They have both been downright indignant about it.

What do you make of that? For my part I take it as scummy. I'm town, and my thoughts when others agreed was "whew" not "That bastard is trying to take credit for what I DID!" The scrambling for acknowledgement of their contributions to the upcoming lynch reads as trying to soak up town cred to me.


of those thoughts Vayesh sees one common thought. A second thought is almost in align and the third is not yet fully concluded. The amphibian seems more some mutating thing, or perhaps the one who sells spirits. The man of bovine is still not fully alluded.


geript
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On February 27 2013 09:25 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 27 2013 09:24 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 27 2013 09:21 geript wrote:
Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective.

You have a habit of not replying to all questions directed your way.

& not quoting the questions.. makes it hard to assess your filter.. I would like to assume this behaviour is not intentional.. even phone posting its not hard to click "quote"

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&currentpage=58#1156
For the question you chose not to address (for whatever reason)


the ripped man is a man of the darkness. His serpentine ways are merely a habit of his nature



Here a list of DrH where he agrees:
layabout
JJ
geript
testsubject
vivax
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On February 27 2013 11:17 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.

Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.

Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Gg no re

If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?

Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.

If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.


Vayesh likes the words flowing from your gallifreyan mouth. The synconization of thoughts is more alike than that of any other soul. The logical conclusion is to give you power of the death machines.


Toad scum/3rd party again
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On February 28 2013 07:40 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 28 2013 07:37 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:34 VayeshMoru wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:30 glurio wrote:
I actually really don't wanna vote for VE, all his comments about possibly not lynching prom based on whatever mood he has?
Why are you pushing for VEs election toad? There is a chance that he'll just lynch you, he already said that before. I don't get it.

he's kind of stupid and emotional but there's no way he's stupid enough to lynch me. He knows that'll get him instalynched if he's mafia and it has to be a joke trying to make me rage if he's town, though I don't really see the reasoning for that one...

Anyways, if Prom comes in 2nd there's literally no way any mayor we elect can pull bullshit on us. I like the idea and we can just ignore VE once he becomes mayor. At least that's my plan for d2.


VE has day vigi'd people who he knew were town (as town) to attempt to get someone he wanted lynched. He has revenge killed people for getting him lynched on bad play. He has countless number of examples of this style of play. You pushing for him this hard after his flip flopping of who he'd lynch compared to the steadfastness of Bh and drH baffles me.


I think I'm more safe if Prom comes in 2nd. As I just said there's literally no way anyone can not lynch that way.
VE comming in 1st while prom is not 2nd is kind of scary to be honest. He's incredibly volatile, incredibly emotional, as you just said but there's no way he could just not lynch prom if prom's the pardoner.

As I said, VE being mayor isn't what I want at all but when I said it he was at 10 votes and the 2nd guy was at 5 votes... I'm trying to make the best out of it. I don't want VE in either position to be honest but we'll have to work with him I guess.


Seriously stop dude. This entire play of yours is extremely anti town. I like VE. When hes on the ball he is a beast. Its getting him to that zone though and personally I find he works better at it with less pressure on him instead of more.

However you just said "him for mayor isn't what I want" and then describe him as volatile, and emotional" after calling him stupid.

If you were town you would not want this man in office.

Toad is scum / third party


geript again
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On February 28 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote:
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On February 28 2013 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's explicit in my posts, I have nothing to fear.


geript is scum so fear him you should not


Chez scum/3rd party
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On March 01 2013 08:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Guess there can't be anything done about people not having a clue... Anyways shoot Macho / Grush and one out of BC / chez.
There'll be 2 or 3 mafias in there imo. The lynch on prom wasn't easy because it was an early bus (I know I'm town I am pretty damn certain VE and Laya are just being stupid right now) but because noone did something against it.
I'd say that means we have a vet on team mafia who wasn't around or wasn't active. That's BC and Chez for me right now. Maybe Dr.H because he started being active late but that's unlikely.

Don't lynch VE if someone was really stupid enough to shoot me because of what people said lately and don't listen to any "one of VE/Toad has to be mafia crap". We're both really egocentrical, both really volatile, both really proud, both resentful and those kind of attitudes easily clash with each other. So despite still being really angry about this game and being told I'm mafia for *insert random towntrait here* I realy don't think he's mafia.
Look for people who kept on telling bullshit about how we should be lynching into anyone like VE or me today (once grush and Macho are dead) because again, I'm pretty damn certain there won't be a mafia in Laya / VE and I'm also pretty damn certain Dr.H / BC aren't stupid.

Maybe BH is an alternative as well, he's been really unreasonable throughout d1 but that's kind of his thing so he's really hard to judge for me and I'd say BC / Chez are way more likely to flip mafia than BH is. Still, don't listen to anyone spouting nonsense about how we have to lynch into people looking good because the lynch was to easy. If that's the case (I'm pretty certain it wasn't) you deal with those people later on. Deal with people who are easy to read and lynch people who are looking bad because they're looking bad. Don't make it overly complex and try to pull big plays by lynching some random dude that makes 0 sense to lynch unless *insert fancy conspiracy theory* is true.

That's it from me for today. I ignored everything VE said.


This post from you shows a large lack of understanding of the bc and chez meta for mafia.

I will agree that chez is likely mafia or third party. My reasoning however is based on how upset he was about rolling red in LIX. He had 0 interest in the game when he rolled red then and similar level of sentiment here would indicate same shit. However given that he attempted to save some of his team in LIX and has done dickall here I would argue third party more likely than red.

Given that I was posting the way I was the contributions I made were imo fine as well as the fact I came out and stopped you from doing something stupid.

I am fine with a vig shot on macho or grush as they have near crap to really form a solid lynchable opinion on at this venture.

I seriously want someone to stop this shit ive seen reoccuring in virtually every game ive played in recently where people get to say "bc is scum or likely scum shoot him/lynch him" with no reasons posted. It leads me to post lists of who I think is scum and not give anyone the benefit of my thought process as people piss me off to the point I feel they don't deserve it.

Stop trying to discredit me without an actual case.


And his death post:
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On March 01 2013 08:57 VayeshMoru wrote:
not sure why obviousone is on so many lists -_-

However

Jcarlsoniv
Geript
Junglejorge
Layabout
Hassy
Chez

likely in that list is 2 mafia and 1 third party.

Haven't put in much more thought but RO, WF and milkman should all be on everyones watch lists as well. If DrH stops contributing like he did day 1 then hes likely third party.

Before anyone asks why I care about mafia and third party. Town has to off them to win as well.


If you just look at the posts i quoted isolated, geript is clear winner with 4 posts about him.
I do think we can find scum if we look at what he posted because there must be a reason why he got killed.

He mentioned the following people (number of times they got mentioned):

geript (4)
toad (2)
chez (2)
JJ (2)
layabout (2)
hasyy (1)
jcarlsoninv (1)
wade fell (1)
vivax (1)
testsubject (1)

He attempts to find mafia from vayesh's reads. Except all he does is say how many times vayesh mentioned people as scum reads and he concludes that geript must be the scum since he was mentioned 4 times. He does not try to add context or his own thoughts. His choice of geript is not linked to any analysis of gerpt's play.

Except he tries to defend chez who flipped mafia.

He has been actively avoiding giving us his own thoughts or doing analysis.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
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March 07 2013 15:23 GMT
#3810
On March 04 2013 08:45 glurio wrote:
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On March 03 2013 20:36 Aquanim wrote:
On March 03 2013 20:30 geript wrote:
No, I thought he was town while you were attacking him. Call it starsenses, call it whatever you want. In rereading, and specifically thinking that the dude is disengaged from the game. Nothing particularly scummy about not wanting to play but feeling obligated to.

Yeah I can sympathise with that.

But it's whatever man, I think we're all agreed that I'm getting lynched tomorrow so you really shouldn't have to worry about it; like we all know that no matter what I flip, everyone's going to be saying "no reason to read him, dude's terrible."

If you survive the night I'll wager 5 internet points that you don't get lynched tomorrow. A little bird has whispered in my ear.


That is such a weird post. I really don't understand it.

Sorry for not being here much this weekend.

RO does look pretty scummy. But so does geript, and if we follow vayesh's reads (he was right with chez too) he should be lynched tomorrow imo.
And yes i believe jcarlsoniv is a good vig shot.

I misread this the first time but here he calls RO scummy but then says we should lynch geript and vig jcarl. This is a good example of not sticking to a read. Had RO survived i think it's very likely that glurio would have just forgotten about him.

It's also worth pointing out that glurios stance has not changed since n2.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 15:33 GMT
#3815
##vote glurio
changing my vote

guys leaving aqua alive is irresponsible and risky but what do i know?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 18:18 GMT
#3841
wave you must be stupid since scum have literally just killed protown player that looked town and 2 of them flipped blue.

that doesn't tell us jack shit about who scum is.
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