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On February 28 2013 06:43 TestSubject893 wrote:Can you explain this to me? I can't wrap my head around it without wild speculation.
he wants to have to lynch me and say "well I was really certain!".
He can't do that once prom is pardoner anymore 
There's absolutely no reason to have one of VE or drH as pardoner. The role does nothing for town, there are no bodyguards, the only help might be pseudo protection from NKs if mafia have multiple shots for nights and choose to leave the pardoner alive to hope he's going to use it, but with both stating that they're not going to use it they both know they're going to get lynched if they're using it, as in it won't happen. So really I have no idea what VE is doing.
You're not helping VE.
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Oh, you just have him twice. From my count, Both WF and Chaos Bear haven't voted yet, so there should be only 23 votes, not 24.
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Could we get a proper votecount? I copy & pasted your votecount and edited it grey but that one is wrong somehow. It has 11 people listed on VE but the number only says 10 so bound to be wrong in one way or another.
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VE, I'd really like to hear a comment from you. Do you not want to be mayor is Prome is pardoner?
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I believe both VE and DrH are town, so I'm not worried about one of them being the pardoner. If I'm the pardoner, I won't use the power, since I am town. Due to the possibility of shenannies I will not be casting a vote electing anyone who I don't think is town.
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We can all talk all day about how we won't use the pardon if we're pardoner, but that doesn't actually mean anything, since no one has any reason to say anything else.
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On February 28 2013 06:49 Wade Fell wrote:
I believe both VE and DrH are town, so I'm not worried about one of them being the pardoner. If I'm the pardoner, I won't use the power, since I am town. Due to the possibility of shenannies I will not be casting a vote electing anyone who I don't think is town.
do you see a reasoning for a "probably" townie to be elected as pardoner in favor of someone who's going to be dead?
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Anyone else besides JJ you would lynch, wade?
I'd also like more opinions on Hassy, he keeps flying under the radar. So far I'm the only guy who has been pressuring him and that's concerning.
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BH get with the plan we are destroying the power and (i thought) we were having VE with mayor.
We have two hours we can easily pull this off.
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vivax we leave lurkers for blues since we cannot really distinguish between them
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On February 28 2013 06:51 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 06:49 Wade Fell wrote:
I believe both VE and DrH are town, so I'm not worried about one of them being the pardoner. If I'm the pardoner, I won't use the power, since I am town. Due to the possibility of shenannies I will not be casting a vote electing anyone who I don't think is town. do you see a reasoning for a "probably" townie to be elected as pardoner in favor of someone who's going to be dead?
This is a begging question. "Toadesstern, when did you stop beating your wife": of course, you never beat your wife.
The choice isn't between electing the lynch target pardoner, and electing someone pardoner. The choice is between giving votes to someone who's townie and giving votes to someone who's scum, thereby taking a risk that shenannies happen.
I won't espouse a complex plan. We do this simple and we do it right.
No shenannies.
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On February 28 2013 06:52 layabout wrote:
BH get with the plan we are destroying the power and (i thought) we were having VE with mayor.
No.
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On February 28 2013 06:54 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 06:51 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2013 06:49 Wade Fell wrote:
I believe both VE and DrH are town, so I'm not worried about one of them being the pardoner. If I'm the pardoner, I won't use the power, since I am town. Due to the possibility of shenannies I will not be casting a vote electing anyone who I don't think is town. do you see a reasoning for a "probably" townie to be elected as pardoner in favor of someone who's going to be dead? This is a begging question. "Toadesstern, when did you stop beating your wife": of course, you never beat your wife. The choice isn't between electing the lynch target pardoner, and electing someone pardoner. The choice is between giving votes to someone who's townie and giving votes to someone who's scum, thereby taking a risk that shenannies happen. I won't espouse a complex plan. We do this simple and we do it right. No shenannies.
Just tell me what you're afraid of. Mafia pulling 5 members to last minute voteswitch on prom? Who cares lol. That's 5 outed mafias.
Prom is set to lynch and we're perfectly fine to pull this off.
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That's fine, we only need a few people to vote for Prom. We want most of the votes on the mayor anyway.
Speaking of shenannies, I still can't think of a pro-town reason to change your vote and refuse to explain it. I'm hoping its just his ego getting in the way.
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Vote count on the way, roughly 2 hours remain in the day
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On February 28 2013 06:57 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 06:54 Wade Fell wrote:On February 28 2013 06:51 Toadesstern wrote:On February 28 2013 06:49 Wade Fell wrote:
I believe both VE and DrH are town, so I'm not worried about one of them being the pardoner. If I'm the pardoner, I won't use the power, since I am town. Due to the possibility of shenannies I will not be casting a vote electing anyone who I don't think is town. do you see a reasoning for a "probably" townie to be elected as pardoner in favor of someone who's going to be dead? This is a begging question. "Toadesstern, when did you stop beating your wife": of course, you never beat your wife. The choice isn't between electing the lynch target pardoner, and electing someone pardoner. The choice is between giving votes to someone who's townie and giving votes to someone who's scum, thereby taking a risk that shenannies happen. I won't espouse a complex plan. We do this simple and we do it right. No shenannies. Just tell me what you're afraid of. Mafia pulling 5 members to last minute voteswitch on prom? Who cares lol. That's 5 outed mafias. Prom is set to lynch and we're perfectly fine to pull this off.
Or some group of well-intentioned but terrible townies (perhaps with scum leading or joining them) decides that the towniest player is actually JJ or something crappy like that, and votes flow from VE to him, and the day ends with the VE majority split across them, and Prom has the most votes.
This kind of thing happens ALL the time, and the only reason it hasn't boned us in the past is we haven't done something foolish like give a scum player the second-most number of votes. No plan survives contact with reality, and I will _not_ support such a wrongheaded plan that could potentially give Prom this power.
What, do you have a scumread on DrH?
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Day 1 Mayor Vote Count
Wade Fell (6): Toadesstern, VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, DoctorHelvetica, Aquanim, glurio, vivax, JungleJorge, Chezinu, ObviousOne, Wade Fell
geript (0): geript
VisceraEyes (7): VisceraEyes, Promethelax, VisceraEyes, Toadesstern, ObviousOne, glurio, Hassybaby, VisceraEyes, The Macho Man, Restraining Order, TestSubject893, grush57, randombum, geript, WaveofShadow
Chezinu (0): VayeshMoru
WaveofShadow (0): Restraining Order
grush57 (0): grush57
DoctorHelvetica (5): Toadesstern, Milksuckler, layabout, VayeshMoru, jcarlsoniv, glurio, VisceraEyes
Promethelax (5): geript, TestSubject893, Toadesstern, Vivax, Layabout
The Day ends at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). If you are a leading candidate, please have your lynch selection into me prior to the deadline.
At the moment VisceraEyes is to be elected Mayor and DoctorHelvetica is to be elected Pardoner
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On February 28 2013 07:03 GreYMisT wrote:
Day 1 Mayor Vote Count
Wade Fell (6): Toadesstern, VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, DoctorHelvetica, Aquanim, glurio, vivax, JungleJorge, Chezinu, ObviousOne, Wade Fell
geript (0): geript
VisceraEyes (7): VisceraEyes, Promethelax, VisceraEyes, Toadesstern, ObviousOne, glurio, Hassybaby, VisceraEyes, The Macho Man, Restraining Order, TestSubject893, grush57, randombum, geript, WaveofShadow
Chezinu (0): VayeshMoru
WaveofShadow (0): Restraining Order
grush57 (0): grush57
DoctorHelvetica (5): Toadesstern, Milksuckler, layabout, VayeshMoru, jcarlsoniv, glurio, VisceraEyes
Promethelax (5): geript, TestSubject893, Toadesstern, Vivax, Layabout
The Day ends at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). If you are a leading candidate, please have your lynch selection into me prior to the deadline.
At the moment VisceraEyes is to be elected Mayor and DoctorHelvetica is to be elected Pardoner
The Milkman also voted for DoctorHelvetica.
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Right now, all it takes is like a FEW bad townies from the group voting for VE, DrH and me to say "hey guys I thinkg Geript is actually the best let's vote him" and BAM Prometheleax is the mayor.
Come on, we can't take that risk.
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On February 28 2013 07:03 GreYMisT wrote:
Day 1 Mayor Vote Count
Wade Fell (6): Toadesstern, VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, DoctorHelvetica, Aquanim, glurio, vivax, JungleJorge, Chezinu, ObviousOne, Wade Fell
VisceraEyes (7): VisceraEyes, Promethelax, VisceraEyes, Toadesstern, ObviousOne, glurio, Hassybaby, VisceraEyes, The Macho Man, Restraining Order, TestSubject893, grush57, randombum, geript, WaveofShadow
DoctorHelvetica (5): Toadesstern, Milksuckler, layabout, VayeshMoru, jcarlsoniv, glurio, VisceraEyes
Promethelax (5): geript, TestSubject893, Toadesstern, Vivax, Layabout
At the moment VisceraEyes is to be elected Mayor and DoctorHelvetica is to be elected Pardoner
Wait, what?
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