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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#3642
On March 07 2013 00:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Good lord 9 hours and absolutely nothing. What a joke.

maybe instead of bitching you can do something useful you could explain why gluiro is town based on meta because do not see a town mindset at all.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 00:20 GMT
#3671
On March 07 2013 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also, I'm suspecting at least one of our vets is mafia now. The vet/blue sniping is getting out of hand.

do you just like throwing suspicion out there with no purpose or do you have someone specific in mind.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 00:23 GMT
#3672
also pray tell why in gods green earth you can possibly have a town read on glurio waveofs?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 00:43 GMT
#3679
On March 07 2013 09:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:23 The Macho Man wrote:
also pray tell why in gods green earth you can possibly have a town read on glurio waveofs?

Lol you mean my town read from days and days ago since I haven't looked at him since?
Don't get all high-and-mighty with me. Where were your contributions during the early game?

if you have something to say. then just say it or are you scared....................to say it
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 00:45 GMT
#3680
On March 07 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
Macho, want to lynch WoS for process of elimination?

Hes now beyond bad townie, he is incessantly walking that fine line of trolling. How does that help town?

Lynch the fucker.

don't like how he tries to discredit me instead of calling me scum.

glurio is much better lynch in my view though and ill start the wagon of justice right now
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 00:52 GMT
#3685
On March 07 2013 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:47 MilkSuckler wrote:
Either way.. JJ correctly called out Wade Fell as Detective IN THE THREAD.

I wonder what the benefit of that was for town?

Wade wasnt under high suspicion then....Conveniently JJ hasnt been able to JK since Night 1 when he jailed Toad.... isnt it convenient that when Aquanim is RB'd ... JJ forgets to send in his action?

I think we need to policy lynch JJ

In fact, I am voting him now.
##Vote: JungleJorge

should we policy lynch you for being stupid?

how would it benefit him as scum?
plus we should wait to see if there is another role block....

flood control
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 01:41 GMT
#3693
On March 07 2013 10:20 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 10:16 randombum wrote:
Decided to start reading filters just based off the order list and composing my thoughts about each one as I go along.

So start with grush. First thing that caught my attention:
On February 21 2013 05:59 grush57 wrote:
yessiree, tho that was the only time my actions didn't get taken, maybe cuz I only sent it to co-host but I will send both this game

If we never figure out the odd night two I think grush deserves extra attention. The fact that he has "forgotten" to submit an action to both hosts before might be something he kept in mind.
On March 01 2013 06:14 grush57 wrote:
I'm so useless this game :'(


Sums up my opinion of grush. He plays around with starsense and then nothing else. Very empty filter. His only reads have been sure that toad is mafia. Very sure on geript being mafia, and then a one liner saying he doesn't like RO and Hassy. His most recent reads are aqua/jcarl. I won't fault him for who he has been targeting. Because I had suspicisions on toad, jcarl, RO and hassy, but its how he has done it. There's literally only one piece on analysis from him this whole game. and that's

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 03 2013 14:25 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 14:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

Agreed (somewhat)
geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio,

What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57?

On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag.

y?

2 scum left baby! idk I just said something random man

and jcarlsoniv....

Well he kind of defended for Chez like why would he shoot town when he could get counter claimed.
Plus he shot milkman, which wasn't the strongest town leader this game.
Basically he made some good arguments but Chez is scum

But then there's also stuff about throwing suspicion on Toad and JJ, and while he also sais bad stuff about Chez he wants to lynch geript, but that was after Dr H.

And then there's this

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Gettin' real tired of your shit, Chez



which strikes me as a scum to scumbuddy post.

Idk this is kinda just rambling but yea I think jcarl is a good vig/lynch target for tomorrow.



And that's not even very in depth. I get the feeling that grush isn't even that convinced on jcarl from that post. It's like he's trying to say something, that he can point to be and "I knew he was scum" but not actually be the cause of his death.

Does somebody see something I'm not seeing because this just screams mafia to me.

Grush is known for being useless
(e.g. Dr.H filter at the start talking about Grush)

In 5 to 7 games with starsenses, it hasn't been wrong yet. I am not against policy lynchin Grush (as he is almost unreadable) BUT. would prefer to keep him to the end.

Thats my 2c, others may beg to differ.

this is correct.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 02:01 GMT
#3701
On March 07 2013 11:00 layabout wrote:
glurio almost looks scummy enough for him to be a better lynch than aqua.

hence lynch aqua

if you think jj is scum then you are over thinking yourself into moronicity.

.... what are you saying.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 04:27 GMT
#3739
On March 07 2013 13:15 Aquanim wrote:
So this is Macho Man's case right? This feels pretty superficial to me. There are basically only two points - first, that Glurio went and summarised everything Vayesh said (which I admit is easy for scum to do, but I don't see direct scum motivation) and second his sheeping of Vayesh (again, easy for scum to hide behind but still).

The rest of Glurio's posts are covered with a blanket "overall lack of activity and concern for the lynch" which is again true but unfortunately describes about half of the players in this game.

Glurio hasn't contributed much but this case isn't enough to convince me. In fact, this reads as a pretty half-hearted attempt by a player with IamP's experience.

maybe you should i dont know look at my past cases... that i have made in other games.......

i dont know how anyone can read glurios filter and possibly think he is town. He is totally disconnected and hides behind dead player that is fucking scummy.

Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 04:27 GMT
#3740
On March 07 2013 13:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
ugh im not even reading properly im sorry im honestly so disinterested in this game

i like the case on jcarlsoniv so ill just sheep right now

why not glurio....?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 04:45 GMT
#3746
On March 07 2013 13:41 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 13:28 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 07 2013 13:15 Aquanim wrote:
So this is Macho Man's case right? This feels pretty superficial to me. There are basically only two points - first, that Glurio went and summarised everything Vayesh said (which I admit is easy for scum to do, but I don't see direct scum motivation) and second his sheeping of Vayesh (again, easy for scum to hide behind but still).
I am not sure what you expect out of a case? Your efforts on OO had ?3? points mildly expanded.

That was, what, three hours into the game?
Anyway that's not the point. My point is that I don't think these two particular points make Glurio scum necessarily. Townies sometimes choose to contribute in ways that are stereotypically scummy. I'm not complaining about the effort put in, I'm complaining that I don't think these are super-indicative of scum.
Which is not to say that I'm wedded to the idea that Glurio is town, just that these points aren't convincing enough on their own.

Show nested quote +

A case is made to bandwagon support for a lynch typically by identifying scummy behaviour. I think this case succeeded in that and I do not think the quotes were cherry picked either. It demonstrates examples you, yourself admit can be interpreted as scummy.

The rest of Glurio's posts are covered with a blanket "overall lack of activity and concern for the lynch" which is again true but unfortunately describes about half of the players in this game.
Are you able to summarise the remainder of his filter differently? I thought "overall lack of activity and concern for the lynch" is a sound synopsis.

Yes it adequately defines Glurio. Seeing as how it describes HALF OF THE PLAYERS adequately it's not scummy enough to convince me that Glurio is scum.

tl;dr This case does not convince me. I would welcome a convincing case.


Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 13:27 The Macho Man wrote:
On March 07 2013 13:15 Aquanim wrote:
So this is Macho Man's case right? This feels pretty superficial to me. There are basically only two points - first, that Glurio went and summarised everything Vayesh said (which I admit is easy for scum to do, but I don't see direct scum motivation) and second his sheeping of Vayesh (again, easy for scum to hide behind but still).

The rest of Glurio's posts are covered with a blanket "overall lack of activity and concern for the lynch" which is again true but unfortunately describes about half of the players in this game.

Glurio hasn't contributed much but this case isn't enough to convince me. In fact, this reads as a pretty half-hearted attempt by a player with IamP's experience.

maybe you should i dont know look at my past cases... that i have made in other games.......

I may do that.

Show nested quote +

i dont know how anyone can read glurios filter and possibly think he is town. He is totally disconnected and hides behind dead player that is fucking scummy.

Now the bolded is an interesting point and one I will explore further. Unfortunately I think a number of townies are probably disconnected from the game following Blazinghand's one-man "wagon of justice" driving for the last two days but still.

show me the other players that make a huge useless summary post and hide behind dead people.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 14:36 GMT
#3798
how about we stop being silly and actually listen to me.....

glurios one thing he contributed is to think he is going after third party it looks like to me he has no intrest in actually finding scum.... thats scummy

He is by far the best lynch.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 15:24 GMT
#3811
jcarl why are you not considering glurio?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 15:29 GMT
#3813
and moc put your vote somewhere not stupid such as Glurio
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 15:34 GMT
#3816
On March 08 2013 00:31 Vivax wrote:
Iamp why are you treating jcarlson as townie I want to hear why you have a townread on him.

pretty sure i never said he was town but i believe glurio is the scum right in front of us and jcarl was somewhat suspicious of him earlier so that's good enough for me.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 15:44 GMT
#3819
On March 08 2013 00:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:34 The Macho Man wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:31 Vivax wrote:
Iamp why are you treating jcarlson as townie I want to hear why you have a townread on him.

pretty sure i never said he was town but i believe glurio is the scum right in front of us and jcarl was somewhat suspicious of him earlier so that's good enough for me.


You ask him and Moc to switch their votes to glurio and now you say jcarl was suspicious of glurio earlier so that's your argument for voting him.

That sounds pretty much like you have a townread on jcarl. Is it just cause he finds the guy scummy you find scummy too? Did you actually look at jcarl's filter or have any argument besides that connection?

i literally have no idea what your talking about.

I want people to vote glurio because he is scum that's all i want.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 16:52 GMT
#3821
Would anyone else like to join the wagon of justice?
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 21:31 GMT
#3881
On March 08 2013 03:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 03:44 layabout wrote:
Wave don't make me quote you but you never got round to giving us your judgement on glurio. You say he is town based on doing nothing really early on and then say about 5 times how your going to look at him but you never do.

Deal. The reason I've been avoiding it is because the evidence has really been piling up against him and I'm having a hard time admitting I may be wrong based on my earlier meta reads.
Throughout the entire game his reads are simplistic but seem genuine, but then there is a lot of +1 on later on. I can't really say whether or not this is newbie indicative or what. His long post where he describes how often Vayesh mentions each person seems a really odd way of trying to determine what Vayesh's reads were; seems misguided but a townie attempt at least.


How the hell is quoting somebody and saying this is what this guy said a townie attempt at anything. Its the complete opposite it a way to look like your contributing when your not. If someone wanted to get Vayesh reads they could just look at his filter.


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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 21:34 GMT
#3883
On March 08 2013 06:33 glurio wrote:
So who are your other scumreads macho man?

Wave of shadow becasue he is not suspicious of you when he should be.
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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 21:36 GMT
#3886
On March 08 2013 06:34 glurio wrote:
So after you mislynch me what then?

cross that bridge if it happens but at least your here talking to me give you some points for that.... also never forget i am known for shenanigans .
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