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JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 00:34 GMT
#3199
I want to know who was roleblocked. I don't understand why scum wouldn't block either me or vivax if he is town. It wouldn't be the first time vivax shot his mafia buddy. Something to consider.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 00:42 GMT
#3210
Layabout did you get jailed? I sent my action only to greymist and he is not responding to my questions. I noticed Oatsmaster has posted the day post instead.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 00:47 GMT
#3216
I'm just not reading the thread anymore. Maybe the same happened to the scum team's actions? It's the only explanation I can muster.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 00:51 GMT
#3218
I suspect geript will flip town. Voting grush because why not. Seems like a good bet.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 00:54 GMT
#3222
1) I've read his filter and reached this conclusion.
2) No.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 01:01 GMT
#3225
Another thing. Either the scum team forgot to send their actions or vivax is scum. I've been reading his filter and I'm starting to get swayed over the latter.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 01:03 GMT
#3227
On March 04 2013 09:56 Wade Fell wrote:
And on a personal note, JJ, if it does in fact turn out you are town, after this game you and I will have a long talk about the basic principles of cooperative discourse.

No, we are not.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 01:03 GMT
#3228
On March 04 2013 10:02 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 10:01 JungleJorge wrote:
Another thing. Either the scum team forgot to send their actions or vivax is scum. I've been reading his filter and I'm starting to get swayed over the latter.


yeah or you're scum and sent your nk to gerymist instead of oats

You got me there great scum hunter BH. I concede.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 02:06 GMT
#3243
Okay. Another theory: Vivax is sk. He shot RO and mafia shot him, believing he was vig.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 02:16 GMT
#3248
No, sk must shoot every night, so if later on there are 2 shots at the same night and no claims just kill vivax. That kinda relies on vivax being a suicidal sk and claiming vig for no good reason though. Time will tell.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 02:18 GMT
#3253
On March 04 2013 11:14 layabout wrote:
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On March 04 2013 11:06 JungleJorge wrote:
Okay. Another theory: Vivax is sk. He shot RO and mafia shot him, believing he was vig.

I suppose that could be the case but it doesn't explain why they would roleblock aqua over vivax, since if they thought he was a vig they should roleblock him to stop the shot or (you)jj since jj might stop their shot going through.

The chance that aqua is scum is too high to ignore.

Or they want to provoke this kind of reasoning, or even bring forth this argument and roleblocked with this purpose. Either way I'm kinda torn on aqua actually. I'll reflect on it some more.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 06:34 GMT
#3348
OK so one of this things happened, tell me if you can find any holes:
1) Mafia purposely held their shot. Seems pretty unlikely given the game state we are in. I'm willing to say that this possibility should be ignored.
2) Mafia forgot to send in their actions. That means aqua is lying and thus scum. Says nothing about vivax alignment. Seems unilkely as aqua would be better served not claiming the RB in the first place.
3) Mafia shot RO. Vivax must be mafia. No sk, possible arsonist. Seems far fetched, but vivax has done this before as mafia in a previous game when he wanted to concede. Since it's possible there is an arsonist, mafia may not be able to concede yet.
4) Mafia shot the sk. Since no one has claimed a shot and I didn't send in my action to the correct host, if mafia shot anyone tonight besides RO they must have hit the sk. SK has to shoot every night. Vivax must be the sk, since if he isn't there would be another kill tonight besides his.

So the only reasonable explanations imo are 3 or 4, which all point to anti-town vivax. We should kill him today.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 06:44 GMT
#3350
If I can prove to logic that someone is scum or sk why should I bother making a case? If I'm a claimed watcher and saw someone making a kill must I do it too?
Anyway just go ahead and lynch geript. I see nothing whatsoever that warrants suspicion on him. When he flips town, maybe you will drop your cocky attitude. I see that RO flipping scum has done nothing to your reading abilities towards my posts.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 06:45 GMT
#3351
On March 04 2013 15:34 JungleJorge wrote:
2) Mafia forgot to send in their actions. That means aqua is lying and thus scum. Says nothing about vivax alignment. Seems unilkely as aqua would be better served not claiming the RB in the first place.

You reckon that if they did that they wouldn't have sent the RB either.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 04 2013 06:58 GMT
#3353
Sure, but I think at this point he would have claimed. Not like we need a RB to win this game. That would probably mean no scum RB though, so I wonder why they didn't shoot the claimed jailer.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 06 2013 00:08 GMT
#3553
-_-
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 06 2013 00:17 GMT
#3558
I'll order every geript voter in order of terribleness: Everyone is terrible.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 06 2013 00:31 GMT
#3562
On March 06 2013 09:20 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 09:17 JungleJorge wrote:
I'll order every geript voter in order of terribleness: Everyone is terrible.

I'd agree with you but voting Vivax was even worse.

Aren't you the guy who was roleblocked? How do you explain the night actions? Shouldn't you be even more suspicious that vivax is SK, since the alternative is that you are scum?
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 06 2013 03:43 GMT
#3599
On March 06 2013 09:36 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 09:31 JungleJorge wrote:
On March 06 2013 09:20 Aquanim wrote:
On March 06 2013 09:17 JungleJorge wrote:
I'll order every geript voter in order of terribleness: Everyone is terrible.

I'd agree with you but voting Vivax was even worse.

Aren't you the guy who was roleblocked? How do you explain the night actions? Shouldn't you be even more suspicious that vivax is SK, since the alternative is that you are scum?

1) There are other reasons why scum KP might not have been effective. Town JOAT is probably most plausible.
2) If Vivax is SK it should be blindingly obvious tomorrow or the day after and we can vote him then. There's no point in lynching him before then.
3) Pretty sure Vivax is town, have been since before he claimed vigilante.

No one has claimed to have taken a shot. There is no reason a townie should hide that he has taken a shot. Only possible explanations are those that I've stated previously.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
March 06 2013 06:10 GMT
#3633
On March 06 2013 14:08 Aquanim wrote:
@JungleJorge
Are you certain that your JK did not go through? Can you check this with the hosts in any way? I want to know for certain what happened with your JK.

Answer this BEFORE THE DAYPOST in case you die.

It didn't happen.
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