On March 06 2013 14:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote: no one seemed to be really suspicious of WoS before but now that geript is flipped all of a sudden everyone is riding him? i'm gonna look into it but that seems really weird to me
no1 seemed to care much about BC's reads when he died, or toadesstern, or ve, or anyone else
Whose riding WoS?
Are you even reading the thread anymore, or just pretending to contribute?
No, not really. Skimming.
I shouldn't say anything until I actually read like I should so I'll be quiet until I sit down and read like I keep saying I'm going to.
the right people are all in the spotlight so tbh im not even worried about this game. i wont have time to post anything significant so if I die tonight, I agree with testsubject's thing on randombum but not convinced that TS is town. After coming to the conclusion that randombum is a null read, don't even post that case and find someone else you think is suspicious
he doesn't seem to suspect anyone at all which is basically impossible at this point if you're town
he just did what the vocal townie told him to do without any independence or effort into finding scum which is the goal if you're town, the goal is not to do what others (mafia) tell you to do or to appear as nonconfrontational as possible
That's not the argument, the argument is that townies shouldn't be terribly concerned with following the thread that the rest of players want them to since this is often attempted manipulation by mafia. You broadcasted that you were going to read into randombum, so that's a different scenario.
I'm just a little surprised that you had that little to say about randombum and no follow through about an actual scum read. I don't see how the number of night kills tonight would have anything to do with aquanim, did he claim vigilante or something? Scum has 1 KP and they could either succeed or fail with it. That doesn't tell me anything unless I'm missing something.
Isn't it possible that scum shot someone who was: 1. A veteran 2. Protected by doctor or armorer 3. SK
And the rest of their night actions did resolve? I'm not saying this to defend aquanim, but that's not really a strong point. Suspicion of aqua should be based on his play, not night action wifom
That flip in reasoning from jcarlsoniv is hella bad. Indefensible practically.
@MilkSuckler - I never defended WoS. I said I would read into him last night and just went to sleep before I really could. Why would you call me out for defending a player you think is town? Can you explain how my tunneling of toadesstern was based in any way on a "policy lynch"?
Attacking JJ and supporting his lynch is indefensible. JJ is almost certainly the town roleblocker. If you believe JJ is lying then you must also believe that Vivax is his scumbuddy. You're not committing to your own read here though which is really worrisome. I think we should lynch you today.
I don't know WoS, I've probably FoS'd more than twice as many people as MilkSuckler has. I don't see what's particularly scummy about that, wouldn't scum be more deliberate about who they go after?
Who else would second guess/change their mind that often but a townie who is constantly considering new information as opposed to scum who are trying to create information to support already formed ideas and accusations
On March 02 2013 04:45 Chezinu wrote: 2.grush57 he is a star 3. Vivax - he is one of the best town players, I said last game 6. glurio - null 7. TestSubject893 - don't recall posts 8. jcarlsoniv - first made me think I was mafia before I checked my role cause he knew I didn't check my role... false alarm 9. The Macho Man 10. Chaos Bear - not present 11. randombum He understands important matters 12. WaveofShadow 15. MilkSuckler - don't like this guy 16. Wade Fell - liked him... then found out he was BH whom I used the Chez rule on in the past... Why he hates me 17. ObviousOne one of my summoners... no sure where he went 18. geript 19. DoctorHelvetica can't seem to save anyone 20. JungleJorge 21. Hassybaby - I cried mored 22. Restraining Order 24. layabout 25. aquanim similar thoughts like me
Alright, gtg... might be back, we'll see
Did someone mention this already? Pretty sure someone from that list of greens is actually scum. Didn't we at some point say we lynch geript and if he flips town we lynch aqua? If we don't lynch jcarlsoniv today we should either lynch grush or aqua. Probably grush because he's useless. I'll try to do more analysis later tonight, if i got internet at work that is.
@testsubject, I agree. Aquanim's association case between you and RO is completely fabricated, I find it hilarious that it deserves a bolded point. There's really no explanation about how the association is strong at all, just a series of quotes. The only thing in there is that he called you likely town as scum often do to people who are actually town.
I mean you're on the guillotine and the best you can come up with is a WIFOM list from Chezinu and not even bothering to analyze it even though it's impossible you didn't even try ??? What is going through your head right now glurio?