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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 04 2013 21:25 GMT
#3414
I remember liking his Day 1 play but come Day 2 something about his posting seemed really scripted to me. Seems like he's trying to throw a wrench in things and deflect town from going in the direction we want to go but I can't really be sure until I go through his filter and everything. I'm not gonna push a gut read.

I hate to say it but my interest level in this game has dropped to basically 0. Has nothing to do with lack of effort from the moderators, but when town goes 3 in a row and no one is really taking hard stances I don't know what to contribute. We've already won so anything I do now just feels like going through the motions. I don't really need to push anything cause it's moving in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 04 2013 21:27 GMT
#3416
There is absolutely plenty you could have done and said to change peoples minds. I feel 100% comfortable in saying that vets looking in and watching on this game would agree with me.

There is a right way to respond to pressure and defend yourself and you haven't found that yet. That doesn't make it okay for you to blame everyone else for it.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 04 2013 22:48 GMT
#3428
On March 05 2013 06:45 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 06:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
There is absolutely plenty you could have done and said to change peoples minds. I feel 100% comfortable in saying that vets looking in and watching on this game would agree with me.

I'm going to go ahead and put all the internet points on a big fat no to that. Perhaps you should count how many people and how many times people flat out said I was the next sure lynch even before Chez had flipped. Trust me, my play was pretty bad this game but it's not all my fault. Hell, most of this D3 is literally because WF asked me to spend time and reinvest in the game with the sole intention of me still being lynched. Why should I do that? Why would my reads matter? Nope, it would've been far better for everyone involved if you guys had just move discussion on and lynched me.

Because if you're going to flip town, it will help us win. Dead townies still win the game with the rest of the town.

It's rare that you see townies give up so easily. Generally, only scum are that frustrated. You had already voted for yourself on Day 2 when you weren't even that close to getting lynched. You absolutely could have done a lot and chose not to. That's on you. Because of that, things have snowballed out of control to a point that I don't think anybody is going to consider letting you live any longer but that doesn't happen to town who play well.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 04 2013 22:57 GMT
#3430
Because when scum has its back against the wall, coming up on a second lynch in a row they'll try anything I'd think.

I remember a game when I asked scum to bus me cause I was gonna die anyway and they just kept defending me anything. WIFOM.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 04 2013 22:58 GMT
#3431
*anyway
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 04 2013 23:12 GMT
#3435
On March 05 2013 08:00 geript wrote:
Doc can I ask you a serious question? Do you have any intention of reading my filter for my reads or thoughts? Do you really expect anyone else do to that after the game I've played?

I did that on Day 2 when I voted for you and nothing has changed.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 05 2013 02:51 GMT
#3461
HassyBaby has done so little it's hard to say. Why on earth would Aqua be roleblocked? He hasn't breadcrumbed a role as far as I know. There's no reason for scum not to RB Vivax, Aqua is clearly lying to try to buy town cred.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 05 2013 02:51 GMT
#3462
oh actually scratch that

RB Aquanim, wait for him to claim it then jump all over him saying there's no reason scum wouldn't rb vivax and he's a liar = a pretty good scum plan to force a mislynch

so it's ultimately WIFOM
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 05 2013 02:52 GMT
#3463
especially smart if it's a last ditch effort to save geript
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 05 2013 04:01 GMT
#3476
Sorry if you're going to hate me forever for getting you lynched. I don't look down on you at all and I'd hope you can just keep on playing and improving.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 05 2013 21:26 GMT
#3539
On March 06 2013 04:24 geript wrote:
So Doc, how u feel about WoS? Sorry a few beeers in.

Let me look at his filter. I actually did get a weird scripted feel Day 1 but I dropped it because I was tending to agree with his reads. Honestly, if you flip town I'm not opposed to taking a strong look at him. I've been scum almost as much as I've been town and I'd bet an arm and a leg that at least 1 scum has gone along with the recent lynches and is making a move for town cred to separate himself from the inactive scum. If I had to guess based on my gut who that would be it would be WoS or BlazingHand.

Just woke up though so it'll be a bit. I was planning on looking toward Randombum tonight tho
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 05 2013 21:47 GMT
#3541
On March 06 2013 06:40 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 06:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If I had to guess based on my gut who that would be it would be WoS or BlazingHand.

You think scum BH would have hard-bussed Chezinu day 2 like he did, reducing scum KP to ONE?
0.o

0.o

0.o

It's something I would do
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 01:17 GMT
#3576
UGH

Randombum has completely dipped out. Has he done anything beyond his Day 1 stuff? What seems suspicious to me is that he was very engaged on Day 1, but only engaged in his stupid argument about a scum mayor. His interest level dipped down completely when there was actually stuff to do and he hasn't been involved in the actual lynch discussions beyond one-liners and sheeping other people iirc.

Aquanim/jcarlsoniv are my guess for the other two scum but I'll set aside some time tonight to look hard at WoS. To extend a figurative olive branch to the deceased Geript.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 01:33 GMT
#3577
If I survive to Day 4 it means one of two things.

1. Scum won't waste a shot on me with 1 KP assuming I'm a veteran or there could be another doc in the game
2. Scum are intentionally avoiding shooting "big name vets" (I hate saying that) to mask that they are led by one. - This is a plan I've personally employed as scum, to intentionally hit lurkers/less experienced players to push suspicion onto different vets around Day 3-4.

jcarlsoniv, why would you believe Chezinu is town and JungleJorge is somehow a scumslipper? You're one of only three people to not vote Chez yesterday including myself and geript (who voted for himself). Do you still believe that Vivax and JungleJorge hatched a plan together? Would you suggest they are the two remaining scum?

If anyone else considers that to be the case, note that Prom FoS'd JJ before he was lynched and Vivax FoS'd JJ as well in his largest post.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 01:34 GMT
#3578
If JJ really is wbg he has not been nearly as aggressive as I'm used to seeing.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 01:35 GMT
#3581
Vivax, will you shoot at Randombum tonight?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 01:36 GMT
#3583
On March 06 2013 10:35 TestSubject893 wrote:
Jeez, I don't understand what was going through geript's head to act the way he did. I guess its not worth while to dwell on it right now though.

I feel like things got a lot more wide open with neither Hassy or geript flipping scum. (We've had relatively easy decisions on the lynches up until now.)

I think looking more closely at randombum could be a good move from here. I'll reexamine him.

I'm glad you popped up in here to give a non-committal summary. I demand to see your own independent thoughts on Randombum by the end of the night cycle.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 03:14 GMT
#3595
wait, jcarls

wasn't it you who said that his jailer claim made you more certain than ever that he was scum?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 05:47 GMT
#3620
On March 06 2013 14:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 13:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 06 2013 13:50 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 06 2013 13:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 06 2013 13:35 MilkSuckler wrote:
For filter
On March 06 2013 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
On March 06 2013 12:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:15 Vivax wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:10 JungleJorge wrote:
Vivax I assume you are claiming the RO kill?
I jailed layabout. I wasn't roleblocked. Some fishy stuff happened here, or scum team is retarded and an amazing chain of coincidences just happened.


I shot RO yes. If what you say is true then there should be a second guy roleblocked by scum, unless layabout is the mafia roleblocker.

Uh...didn't you ask him yourself if he claimed RO kill and he said yes?

n revised thoughts on glue-man

@ WoS

I'll tell you what. I'll do it if I know someone other than you is going to read it.

Whats that meant to mean?


I am not even asking you something to do... you suggested it upon yourself
On March 06 2013 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright this makes me want to have another go at glurio's filter, though even if I find something that changes my mind from my earlier town stance I can't see myself wanting to lynch him ahead of the other 3 I mentioned.
I remember feeling very strongly early that he was town; but I'll check to be sure.

The filter is not exactly a big one to digest.... so stop being a bitch and complaining

Ooooo Mocsta angwy.
I'm serious though. Why should I keep feeding information that only you are going to use? Are you the town in its entirety? How are you going to be using the information I give you in the form of my read on Glurio? You're right I did suggest that I was going to do it; but I changed my mind. I don't find any compelling reason to do it right now. I'm not about to die anytime soon, after all.


DrH himself (the one you've been so keen to buddy up to most of the thread) said earlier this game:

Someone who says they are going to do something and never does it is probably scum (I may be paraphrasing).

That's not always true but any player who makes a big deal about how he is a threat to scum and is going to scumhunt hard past Day 1 and then doesn't consistently contribute is generally scum

a lot of scum vets take this approach
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 06 2013 05:49 GMT
#3623
no one seemed to be really suspicious of WoS before but now that geript is flipped all of a sudden everyone is riding him? i'm gonna look into it but that seems really weird to me

no1 seemed to care much about BC's reads when he died, or toadesstern, or ve, or anyone else
RIP Aaliyah
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