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Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 02 2013 05:54 GMT
#2781
In any case dude stop flipping out, even if by some stretch of logic you're town, here's what you do: you still have like 90 hours to live, so just be helpful and find scum. worst case scenario, WORST CASE, we lynch you and you flip town, but you've left us with the tools to hunt scum in your filter.

However, I think your so-called "ineptitude" and lack of motivation is just scum-scuses (like excuses for scum) that you're giving to be quiet and not give away your buddies before we lynch you tomorrow.

If you're town, play to your win-con: prove me wrong and find scum. Refine your DrH case. Fight the haters.

If you're scum,

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
Politics is the Mind-Killer
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2013 06:15 GMT
#2782
On March 02 2013 14:38 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 13:43 Wade Fell wrote:
also geript is clearly chez' scumbuddy

Are you dumb? You think I'm Chez's scumbuddy aye? Then why aren't you voting for me instead? You're a good enough player to actively think. If Chez had a second shot (as scum), then he likely would've taken if it were available. As there is nothing in the rules that I see against firing twice in one day (you can correct me if I'm wrong), then I think he would've taken it as scum. If you think that we're scum buddies, then you SHOULD be voting for me. I thought you were a good plaery BH? If Chez is scum and out of bullets, then you should be removing my scum role from the game. This is pretty shady either way.

I'm suspicious of almost everyone at this point and quite frankly I don't give a fuck about this game anymore; all this game is is a vet circle jerk anyways. I still think the Doc's not town; I dropped the Doc case because I thought I had a much stronger case on VE. I was wrong. Who cares; I don't. I was happy when I got 1 case right in the last game. I still think WoS is scum. I still think VE was talking about talking about WoS. The tend to push what's my strongest read at the time. You don't like it, deal with it. Since the only way I see to push my reads at this point is prove their reads wrong, then PLEASE VOTE FOR ME!!!!!

Note: If you think that Chez is scum and I'm not, then you need to vote for Chez. But if you think that we're both scum, then VOTE FOR ME!

I love it.
Simple reading comprehension, my friend. Use your big ol' brains. I suppose you've been using 'em well so far, BUT WAIT:
On March 01 2013 04:37 geript wrote:
Dr.H I have you on null plus now after rereading your posts. A liar, ok, but that in and of itself isn't damning and not enough to get you lynched. While I'm not fond of lying in this game in general, I can at least admit to it's usefulness at points. You're keep your own council as is evident by your posts.

Yes I thought about both of you being scum, but both of you being scum makes very little game play sense in the long term as I would expect (as town) you'd be likely to be targeted early or reasonably early. I forget which game it was that I had read previously, but it's like the unwritten rule about Marv; in LYLO, lynch Marv. Makes very little sense in any regard to have 2 people run, passively or actively, for mayor/pardoner. Of the two, VE looks far more like scum to me than you.

Referring to DrH.

On March 01 2013 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
To be clear, Geript, even though you probably don't care (and neither does anyone else, regarding the response to my case, SIGH) there is something I'm looking for to make you seem less scummy to me and so far I'm not seeing it.

I'm with you but I'm kinda under direct attack right now. I doubted it before but the absolute tenacity of this reeks of "I'm just under orders".


Here 's your most recent example of how VE was 'agreeing' with your thoughts about my posts being scripted. What a long dark tunnel it has been my friend. Let's help you out with the reading comprehension, shall we?

I'm with you

Who's quote is he responding to? Mine.

I'm kinda under direct attack right now.
Well let's look at the context, shall we? Who was directly attacking him at the time?

On March 01 2013 05:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Suffice to say, I was taking a break from the thread at the time. You might not be able to tell from the thread, but I apparently lost it a little bit at the end of the phase there, and in an attempt to keep the thread atmosphere playable for everyone, I removed myself from the equation.

So are you trying to say now that your capsrage wasn't a planned move to try and move Dr.H into the mayor slot intentionally?


On March 01 2013 03:50 geript wrote:
You're trying to suggest that it's malicious misrepresentation at worst and in the least you're saying that it's totally off base while wholly twisting your words. Anyone who actually reads your filter will see that you've lied left and right about everything.


On March 01 2013 04:15 geript wrote:
Let me reiterate, to call the logic as being bad (in the least) without addressing it in specific is just calling someone stupid. If you want to defend yourself, then point out where I'm wrong. Point out how you haven't been trying to grab pardoner all of D1. Point out where you have been "100% deadset on lynching Prom" only to back out at the last second and later admit that you considered pulling shennannies because he was such a solid D2 lynch. Yes, you've told the truth at points too; I didn't say that you haven't been truthful at all. Just that you've wholly lied about your intentions left and right and that you are not to be trusted.



Oh yeah, YOU.

I doubted it before but the absolute tenacity of this reeks of "I'm just under orders"
Now that we've established that he's talking to me ABOUT YOU, I'm going to assume, considering basic English sentence/thought structure that here he was ALSO TALKING TO ME ABOUT YOU. You know, about your ridiculous tunneling.

The only thing I don't agree with in terms of VE's q
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 02 2013 06:17 GMT
#2783
Geript's case against me is dependent on a supposed scumslip that I just proved was mistaken so ???
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2013 06:17 GMT
#2784
On March 02 2013 14:38 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 13:43 Wade Fell wrote:
also geript is clearly chez' scumbuddy

Are you dumb? You think I'm Chez's scumbuddy aye? Then why aren't you voting for me instead? You're a good enough player to actively think. If Chez had a second shot (as scum), then he likely would've taken if it were available. As there is nothing in the rules that I see against firing twice in one day (you can correct me if I'm wrong), then I think he would've taken it as scum. If you think that we're scum buddies, then you SHOULD be voting for me. I thought you were a good plaery BH? If Chez is scum and out of bullets, then you should be removing my scum role from the game. This is pretty shady either way.

I'm suspicious of almost everyone at this point and quite frankly I don't give a fuck about this game anymore; all this game is is a vet circle jerk anyways. I still think the Doc's not town; I dropped the Doc case because I thought I had a much stronger case on VE. I was wrong. Who cares; I don't. I was happy when I got 1 case right in the last game. I still think WoS is scum. I still think VE was talking about talking about WoS. The tend to push what's my strongest read at the time. You don't like it, deal with it. Since the only way I see to push my reads at this point is prove their reads wrong, then PLEASE VOTE FOR ME!!!!!

Note: If you think that Chez is scum and I'm not, then you need to vote for Chez. But if you think that we're both scum, then VOTE FOR ME!

I love it.
Simple reading comprehension, my friend. Use your big ol' brains. I suppose you've been using 'em well so far, BUT WAIT:
On March 01 2013 04:37 geript wrote:
Dr.H I have you on null plus now after rereading your posts. A liar, ok, but that in and of itself isn't damning and not enough to get you lynched. While I'm not fond of lying in this game in general, I can at least admit to it's usefulness at points. You're keep your own council as is evident by your posts.

Yes I thought about both of you being scum, but both of you being scum makes very little game play sense in the long term as I would expect (as town) you'd be likely to be targeted early or reasonably early. I forget which game it was that I had read previously, but it's like the unwritten rule about Marv; in LYLO, lynch Marv. Makes very little sense in any regard to have 2 people run, passively or actively, for mayor/pardoner. Of the two, VE looks far more like scum to me than you.

Referring to DrH. VE looks MORE like scum. Oh wise Geript, please tell us more!

On March 01 2013 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
To be clear, Geript, even though you probably don't care (and neither does anyone else, regarding the response to my case, SIGH) there is something I'm looking for to make you seem less scummy to me and so far I'm not seeing it.

I'm with you but I'm kinda under direct attack right now. I doubted it before but the absolute tenacity of this reeks of "I'm just under orders".


Here 's your most recent example of how VE was 'agreeing' with your thoughts about my posts being scripted. What a long dark tunnel it has been my friend. Let's help you out with the reading comprehension, shall we?

I'm with you

Who's quote is he responding to? Mine.

I'm kinda under direct attack right now.
Well let's look at the context, shall we? Who was directly attacking him at the time?

On March 01 2013 05:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Suffice to say, I was taking a break from the thread at the time. You might not be able to tell from the thread, but I apparently lost it a little bit at the end of the phase there, and in an attempt to keep the thread atmosphere playable for everyone, I removed myself from the equation.

So are you trying to say now that your capsrage wasn't a planned move to try and move Dr.H into the mayor slot intentionally?


On March 01 2013 03:50 geript wrote:
You're trying to suggest that it's malicious misrepresentation at worst and in the least you're saying that it's totally off base while wholly twisting your words. Anyone who actually reads your filter will see that you've lied left and right about everything.


On March 01 2013 04:15 geript wrote:
Let me reiterate, to call the logic as being bad (in the least) without addressing it in specific is just calling someone stupid. If you want to defend yourself, then point out where I'm wrong. Point out how you haven't been trying to grab pardoner all of D1. Point out where you have been "100% deadset on lynching Prom" only to back out at the last second and later admit that you considered pulling shennannies because he was such a solid D2 lynch. Yes, you've told the truth at points too; I didn't say that you haven't been truthful at all. Just that you've wholly lied about your intentions left and right and that you are not to be trusted.



Oh yeah, YOU.

I doubted it before but the absolute tenacity of this reeks of "I'm just under orders"
Now that we've established that he's talking to me ABOUT YOU, I'm going to assume, considering basic English sentence/thought structure that here he was ALSO TALKING TO ME ABOUT YOU. You know, about your ridiculous tunneling.

The only thing I don't agree with in terms of VE's quote here is where he says 'under direct orders.' I don't believe that because if Chez turns out to be scum you guys are a real shit scumteam. No orders there, you and Chez are probably just acting of your own accord, making dumb plays and getting yourselves lynched. I mean why not, right? Prom did it?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2013 06:18 GMT
#2785
Ugh for fuck sakes I double posted that case by accident. Ignore the earlier one. Wish I could delete.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 02 2013 06:20 GMT
#2786
Nothing is more telling than "Hey I'm gonna scumhunt hard and read everyones filters" and then never doing that and just pushing distrust on all the vocal town voices

the most significant things geript has done this game:
1. talk mess about VE, confirmed townie and potentially dangerous vet
2. talk mess about BC, confirmed townie and potentially dangerous vet
3. talk mess about me, potentially dangerous vet

his case against me depends on the idea that i heard about 2 night vigs in the scum qt and i just pointed out which post by vivax it was i was talking about and before that "slip" he had a null read on me so if he's still gonna call me scum, he's being illogical

MEANING his logic was formed for the purpose of the accusation not the accusation being formed on the basis of the logic

MEANING he is scum or incredibly bad and stubborn
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2013 06:21 GMT
#2787
And now you vote yourself? What is with all the fucking martyring? If you guys are all so dissatisfied with how town is treating you, STOP SHITPOSTING AND CONTRIBUTE.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:22 GMT
#2788
Trying to hedge your best Doc? Afraid I'll flip town?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 02 2013 06:22 GMT
#2789
the general attitude of people in this game is really pissing me off

like everyone is such a primadonna they can't handle being criticized without just flying off the handle and giving up
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 02 2013 06:23 GMT
#2790
On March 02 2013 15:22 geript wrote:
Trying to hedge your best Doc? Afraid I'll flip town?

what are you talking about i'm straight calling you scum rofl
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2013 06:24 GMT
#2791
You know what Geript, at this point I wish we had another dayvig to ice you right now. Even IF you're town, your reads are worse than useless and all they do is serve to confound the people who are actually trying lynch scum (myself included). I'm sorely tempted to change my vote to you for D2 but Chezinu is scummier. By just a hair.

Give me something else to go on. I dare you.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2013 06:26 GMT
#2792
Llulz in before I get tunneled on 'another dayvig.'
Guess mebbe you and I are gonna be in the same boat DrH?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 02 2013 06:28 GMT
#2793
I don't even know what this clown is talking about
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2013 06:31 GMT
#2794
Well since it's just us two, any thoughts other than Chez/Geript?
I know Vivax was a hot topic early D1 but I can't tell if that's been dropped or not...
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 02 2013 06:33 GMT
#2795
I'm kind of tired and actually not completely sold on Chezinu, I can't imagine an invested townie would play the way he is playing but what a game we're having. Toadesstern gave up on the game like 2 hours into the day because I accused him and voted for himself, it's really bumming me out. I can't help myself when there is a setup issue like this I'll second-guess myself in circles over and over and over again like a dog chasing it's own tail. Still can't figure why he'd accuse me considering I'm the only vocal townie to actually defend him in any meaningful way. I'd rather lynch Geript for today personally because I have clearer thoughts about that.
RIP Aaliyah
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 02 2013 06:39 GMT
#2796
I understand that you'd prefer to lynch Geript first. That is not an unacceptable attitude to hold-- but I personally believe that Geript's scumminess and the associative tell idea with Chez will be clearer once Chez has flipped scum.

Therefore, strongly urge everyone to vote to lynch Chezinu today
Politics is the Mind-Killer
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 02 2013 06:40 GMT
#2797
On March 02 2013 15:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm kind of tired and actually not completely sold on Chezinu, I can't imagine an invested townie would play the way he is playing but what a game we're having. Toadesstern gave up on the game like 2 hours into the day because I accused him and voted for himself, it's really bumming me out. I can't help myself when there is a setup issue like this I'll second-guess myself in circles over and over and over again like a dog chasing it's own tail. Still can't figure why he'd accuse me considering I'm the only vocal townie to actually defend him in any meaningful way. I'd rather lynch Geript for today personally because I have clearer thoughts about that.

It's stuff like all the self-voting that made me ask about the emotional investment thing I said earlier. Does this kind of thing happen often? Like...you play the game and it doesn't go how you want it so you try and bitch out?

That and the trolling are two things I don't quite get.

Chez explained that he does it to 'read reactions,' and I know nothing about his past game history but to me it doesn't entirely seem possible to base good reads on reaction to trolling and nonsense. Like would we not have gotten a little more info out of BC's death if he wasn't posting cryptically? And wouldn't most of us not be on TMM(iamp?)'s ass if he didn't start the game 'in character' and not giving a shit?
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 02 2013 06:43 GMT
#2798
Yeah, ragequitting happens all the time

I remember RebirthofLegend used to do this kind of thing all the time whether he was town or scum which was a shame because he was a great scum hunter

youngminii used to flip his lid so bad if he ever got even FoS'd that the instant I FoS'd him in any game he would start pushing me and yelling at me in the thread and even shot me instantly as a dayvig the second I said he was suspicious lol

some people just can't be reasoned with
RIP Aaliyah
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:46 GMT
#2799
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 02 2013 06:50 GMT
#2800
On February 26 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think Geript is a stupid newbie and OO is my best guess at scum (jcarlsoniv maybe). Day 1 crapshoot and all but why would you wait like 8 posts after your "read" (talking about how you don't have any reads/reasons in between it) then after there's pressure on you you finally have an explanation?

I'd hope to see people putting more effort into their accusations beyond "lol this guy is mafia". I'm not sure why he would throw in such a half assed "vote for me" post as mafia, but that's all WIFOM bullshit anyway.

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.


Gerpit is the top scum read because he would make a bad lynch regardless if he's town or scum? That's not a reason, you're just calling him stupid more or less. Mafia like to jump on stupid townies don't they? OO has been immediately antagonistic to anyone disagreeing with him also. That's not really indicative of alignment but it certainly isn't protown. Convince me you aren't scum, don't bother trying to explain how Geript is a great scumread because it's not.

Lynch me now. Enjoy it Dr.H. I'm even helping you lynch me nor am I in any way intending to move my vote to anyone other than you or WoS.
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