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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#516
actually yes nope and nope

gonzaw's listy posting is more like town. he's still the best lynch cause he entered this game playing like scum gonzaw and changed to town gonzaw after i called him out so like that's pretty suspicious
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:02 GMT
#518
On February 14 2013 10:00 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 09:52 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2013 09:25 gonzaw wrote:
You still think Oats will flip scum? What do you say about all the stuff everybody said "in favor" of Oats?


nobody in this game knows what they're talking about except me and anyone who I previously mentioned to know what they're talking about

Lol


I will make an exception for greymist, who probably knows what he's talking about
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:02 GMT
#520
On February 14 2013 10:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 06:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2013 06:29 Crossfire99 wrote:
Blazing, do you think gonzaw is scummier than oats?


at this moment yes. if oats was scummier i'd have my vote on him. there's no possible town reason gonzaw would act like he's acting

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On February 14 2013 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Gonzaw not being very direct. But this most recent posting is town gonzaw, as opposed to scum gonzaw. I'm amenable to an oats lynch instead of a gonzaw lynch.

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On February 14 2013 09:57 Blazinghand wrote:
actually yes nope and nope

gonzaw's listy posting is more like town. he's still the best lynch cause he entered this game playing like scum gonzaw and changed to town gonzaw after i called him out so like that's pretty suspicious

Uh...which is it? Is he scum or town? Or should I just wait another hour and he'll be back to being town.


wow you're literally bad
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:03 GMT
#521
okay for people with IQs below 50, here's my stance:

Lynch Gonzaw! I have my vote on him.
I am "amenable" to lynching Oats. This means I consider this a possibility, albeit not my top choice
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:04 GMT
#522
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=amenable
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:05 GMT
#524
iamperfection knows what he's talking about
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:09 GMT
#528
And just so it's clear: it's not like there's been some big explosion in content between gonzaw being scummy and gonzaw being town-like. Like, if it was the first few posts in the game and everyone was derping around asking about policy or talking about tomorrow's lynch mechanic a few worthless posts would be forgivable but the time that passed between this post
On February 14 2013 05:09 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:02 marvellosity wrote:
On February 14 2013 04:57 gonzaw wrote:
Kay im back

I would like to kill randombum today. Stuff he posted seemed too "neutral" and shit, specially that "wall of text" about BH.

Other than that maybe kill BH, he's being his usual trolly scum self, specially with that bad case on Oats.


I know you usually to be a gentleman of many words; the Captain of Debates (Cods).

Yet your discourse thus far has been sadly limited, one might say you have given up your place and become the Captain of Rare Pronouncements (Carps).

Is the gentleman not amiable to great discourse with his colleagues?


I skimmed the game and those are my first impressions.
Everything else is null and some pointless discussions.

marv, is this thing of yours a post restriction or are you doing it intentionally?


and this one

On February 14 2013 08:31 gonzaw wrote:
Sorry for the absence, I was playing PoE.

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On February 14 2013 06:17 Blazinghand wrote:
just to be clear: gonzaw is being profoundly useless acting like scum weird posts doesn't make sense blah blah you get the point


I won't say I haven't been "useless", but I haven't been paying much attention to this game and not much has been going on.

Most of the "pointless discussions" were about Oats being scum for saying some stuff about the mayor choice, which I didn't see at all, and you just seemed to nit-pick stuff which didn't seem alignment-indicative at all.
That makes me a little suspicious of you, since you seem to still think Oats is scum and think your reasons are "legit".

Parking your vote on me right now is "easy" as well.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 06:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 14 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
On February 14 2013 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:59 Blazinghand wrote:
also yeah gonzaw what's your deal are you scum or what

if you vote him i'll sheep you.

Why do you want to lynch Gonzaw?

Cuz he lurks and doesn't say anything useful and/or looking like he's trying to figure the game out.

Both were not things one could attribute him with the game I just played with him, where he was town, so I figure he may well be scum.


I basically joined this game for the PTP part lol
I'm not that invested in the actual mafia game itself, as I was with MTG, but whatever.


I still kind of want to kill randombum, but not many people have done enough stuff for me to get a good scum read on someone.
Stuff like this and this seem too neutral and trying to blend in.

Cheesecake posted some weird stuff I believe, but seemed kind of non-chalant so he may actually be town.
I didn't really notice anything else out of the ordinary in a scummy way.
Dandel is acting weird though, but he's still being a dick as he does as town (last game for instance) so he gives me a slight town gut feeling.


like nothing happened in thread that would give him more info about this stuff, it's just people pressuing him and him realizing he's slipped up

Gonzaw could have showed up and made this quasi-helpful post right away but he did not. And it wasn't dicking around at the start of the game, it was scum-motivated posting pushing scum objectives. his backpedaling to me only further indicates his scumminess
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:10 GMT
#529
The main thing to bear in mind here is that Gonzaw is trying to actively emulate his town play and isn't doing too bad a job of it, but the timing of his town-like posting, as a response to pressure, and his initial scummy posting, make him #1 in my book. Look at the thread between those two posts and you won't see some new info coming to light that Gonzaw leaps on. It's just gonzaw realizing that he's been called out, and putting more effort into appearing townlike
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:11 GMT
#530
Kurumi's posts have been obnoxious so I haven't bothered reading them. I'm like 90% sure he'll get vigged for being annoying
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:14 GMT
#537
On February 14 2013 10:13 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
On February 14 2013 06:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2013 06:29 Crossfire99 wrote:
Blazing, do you think gonzaw is scummier than oats?


at this moment yes. if oats was scummier i'd have my vote on him. there's no possible town reason gonzaw would act like he's acting

On February 14 2013 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Gonzaw not being very direct. But this most recent posting is town gonzaw, as opposed to scum gonzaw. I'm amenable to an oats lynch instead of a gonzaw lynch.

On February 14 2013 09:57 Blazinghand wrote:
actually yes nope and nope

gonzaw's listy posting is more like town. he's still the best lynch cause he entered this game playing like scum gonzaw and changed to town gonzaw after i called him out so like that's pretty suspicious

Uh...which is it? Is he scum or town? Or should I just wait another hour and he'll be back to being town.


wow you're literally bad

I'm trying to understand your thought process. You begin with the same premise, gonzaw's most recent posting is townie, but then come to 2 different conclusions (lynch oats and lynch gonzaw) in the span of an hour. I want to know why you changed your mind.


well there's no way scum could be this intentionally opaque so maybe this isn't literally the worst town play I've ever seen
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:15 GMT
#538
On February 14 2013 10:13 iamperfection wrote:
So what should he have done bh?

Continue to deep it up and do nothing?
His reaction to the pressure should be a null tell at best


what he should have done was be useful and try to hunt scum from the start

his reaction to pressure appears townlike but is in fact not. he's emulating town gonzaw
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:15 GMT
#540
On February 14 2013 10:14 Crossfire99 wrote:
lol i should have refreshed


lol oop
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 01:51 GMT
#557
On February 14 2013 10:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:43 iamperfection wrote:
Crossfire gets so many townie points for that.

All my townie points.

and my axe
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 03:58 GMT
#576
which half am i in
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 22:04 GMT
#757
hello
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#763
votes on sttutttters and hassy are bad. these guys haven't shown a scum mindset, stop flailing around at people who are somewhat less active (there was a time and a place for that) and let's lynch scum

I guess if you've got shit rreads then yeah ok vote the stutts. But BE AWARE that you're policy lynching the guy. I sure as hell aint gonna be policy lynching him when big G and oat-dawg are on the field.

Hassy there's a slightly better case against him but tbh it's not on par with the gonzaw scum mindset thing or just everything oatsmaster has done today.

I'm reading this austinmcc case on you now iamp. I don't know if I can ever recall him being so aggressive/useful on something
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 22:09 GMT
#766
i guess i'm not saying hassy or stutts lynch is bad per se but at least be aware that it would be a policy lynch >:|
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 22:12 GMT
#772
yeah the sylencia lynch is also bad. you're all bad
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 22:15 GMT
#774
On February 15 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:09 Blazinghand wrote:
i guess i'm not saying hassy or stutts lynch is bad per se but at least be aware that it would be a policy lynch >:|


I disagree, sir, and if you believe so, you have not been listening to the discourse very well.


I've read the arguments in favor of lynching hassy and I am simply not convinced. yes, he was active in Parallel mafia and weighed on on matters of policy, interacting with brodoosks like foolishness and so on, and this time he's been an inactive ass (filter) but that doesn't make him scum. It makes him an inactive ass. Vig him or pressure him after this lynch, but this is at BEST a meta lynch based entirely on activity level and not mindset, and at worst a policy lynch of a potentially useful player.

You're just wrong.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
February 14 2013 22:45 GMT
#796
The case on Iamp is okay, but it's out of character for austinmcc. I think it (and the follow up) tell us austinmcc is townish and iamp is scummish but it's not on par with the travesty that is Oats.

Okay so I'm like super sure Oats is scum now. Gonzaw has been sticking to his "I'm going to act like town Gonzaw" dealie but he's still up there. If he's scum he will slip up sooner or later.

Let me tell you about oatsmaster.

First there's the oatsmaster from NMMXXV. In this game, oats was town. This oatsmaster is aggressive, fearless, and likes to lather on the pressure. His first real case on anyone in that game comes relatively early after his entrance into the game, and it's big (link). He defends himself adroitly and directly (link) and follows up on his case (link) aggressively. He is so unafraid that people think he's actively intimidating town from contributing and he slaps them down (link). He plays fearlessly, recklessly, and over the top (link), and is shot N1 for his trouble. He asks a lot of questions in his posts but is mostly making forceful interrogative questions and statements.

Then there's the oatsmaster from TL Mafia LIX. In this game, oats was scum. This oats isn't aggressive D1, but it's a mayoral election so he gets a pass on that. Once the cases and votes start flying, though, check out how he's posting. He defends himself indirectly (link) posts weak attacks with no votes (link) and doesn't defend himself aggressively like he does when he's town (link) and his attacks are mostly questions without followup (link) or irrelevant (link) and when he votes, does so utterly without follow-up (link). Note that as both town and scum he swaps his vote a fair amount after voting, but as town he gets involved and responds to people's responses, but as scum he basically just plops down a case and is done since he's not as interested in trying to find the truth etc.

So we have a pretty good idea of what oatsmaster acts like as town and as scum, and it makes sense-- fearless, aggressive townie makes cases, follows them up, argues a lot, and fearful, sniveling scum is less direct, posts cases without follow-up, and is irrelevant a lot. This game, the first thing that oatsmaster said that had any meaning was that marv was town-ish, but even this he half-retracted (link). His interaction with Dandel is un-aggressive and more questioning than prodding (link) and as previously mentioned his reaction to my case is weak. When people made cases on oats as town, he quote carpet bombed them and called them out. He actually literally called mocsta a dictator for attacking him. His cases this game (link) (link) (link) have had no follow up and he basicallly hasn't been in the fray at all. The only post he's made this game that looks ;ike town oats is this one (link) where he lays some smackdown.

This isn't fearless town oats. This is sniveling scum oats.

and he should hang for it.

##unvote
##vote oatsmaster
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