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On February 18 2013 21:52 Mattchew wrote:
Sandroba do you think you could have forced a scum syllo into shooting his teammate risk?
I like the part where syllo doesn't explain why my suspicions of vivax are bad he just mentions them
I'm saying you don't look like a confused townie who is trying to figure things out, but rather you keep your focus, ignoring evidence that should constantly be shaping your reads. The whole focus of your game has been vivax; everyone else is pretty much null or town to you.
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On February 18 2013 22:14 ObviousOne wrote:
##vote Hopeless1der
Hopeless or Coag for me. And Coag's just being Coag apparently.
Artanis disagreed with my read of Hopeless based on his town meta, but I'm just gonna agree to disagree for right now since he hasn't kept up that action.
what are you seeing townie in matt?
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Also until that marvel vote of yours, you had a town read on marv, yet you immediately voted with me and sandro even though we hadn't even explaind why the risk flip made him look worse
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syllo, if theoretically we flipped Matt and he was townie, how would that affect your read on Hopeless?
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It's hard to say as that would also narrow the field of realistically possible mafia candidates and him ignoring mattchew is only a small aspect of his play that makes him a candidate. Doing such an evaluation before the flip seems like a waste of time though.
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On February 18 2013 22:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 22:14 ObviousOne wrote:
##vote Hopeless1der
Hopeless or Coag for me. And Coag's just being Coag apparently.
Artanis disagreed with my read of Hopeless based on his town meta, but I'm just gonna agree to disagree for right now since he hasn't kept up that action. what are you seeing townie in matt?
Nothing really either way, except this last post from Syllo kind of made my raise my eyebrows. Hard to judge Matt based on his being AWOL from D1 to at least talking some today. I'll give Matt a read in a little bit.
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On February 18 2013 22:28 syllogism wrote:
It's hard to say as that would also narrow the field of realistically possible mafia candidates and him ignoring mattchew is only a small aspect of his play that makes him a candidate. Doing such an evaluation before the flip seems like a waste of time though.
ok, I'll rephrase. why do you think matt is more likely mafia than hopeless?
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On February 18 2013 21:48 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 15:42 syllogism wrote:Mattchew looks like a decent alternative. He has been trying to make a fuzz about insignificant things such as Vivax realizing that Zess is supersoft. Even today he kept his focus on Vivax. Looks like typical lazy mafia tunneling to me. His reasons for finding Grush mafia are also suspect Too many trynabetroll accusations to guide the thread in voting What does that even mean? Grush is guiding the thread? ##unvote
##vote Mattchew It means that grush is not his normal troll star senses self... He's being more serious then his town meta normally is to me. No I don't think he is guiding the town but I feel like he has somewhat tried to which I don't believe town grush would do
this is some of the most terrible meta analysis i've seen
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On February 18 2013 22:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 21:48 Mattchew wrote:On February 18 2013 15:42 syllogism wrote:Mattchew looks like a decent alternative. He has been trying to make a fuzz about insignificant things such as Vivax realizing that Zess is supersoft. Even today he kept his focus on Vivax. Looks like typical lazy mafia tunneling to me. His reasons for finding Grush mafia are also suspect Too many trynabetroll accusations to guide the thread in voting What does that even mean? Grush is guiding the thread? ##unvote
##vote Mattchew It means that grush is not his normal troll star senses self... He's being more serious then his town meta normally is to me. No I don't think he is guiding the town but I feel like he has somewhat tried to which I don't believe town grush would do this is some of the most terrible meta analysis i've seen
Are you saying mine was not the worst ever?
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On February 18 2013 22:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 22:28 syllogism wrote:
It's hard to say as that would also narrow the field of realistically possible mafia candidates and him ignoring mattchew is only a small aspect of his play that makes him a candidate. Doing such an evaluation before the flip seems like a waste of time though. ok, I'll rephrase. why do you think matt is more likely mafia than hopeless?
He has less content, hopeless seems a bit more involved and I'm lazy; I haven't really put that much thought into weighing my options today as it seems like we can lynch all the possibilities and still win. How about you tell me why you apparently think hopeless1der is the better lynch today?
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Mattchew can you show me the posts where Grush has been "somewhat tried" to guide the town. It would also be helpful if you could explain why you thought the post is out of character for him.
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On February 18 2013 21:52 Mattchew wrote:
Sandroba do you think you could have forced a scum syllo into shooting his teammate risk?
I like the part where syllo doesn't explain why my suspicions of vivax are bad he just mentions them
lol, no.
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On February 18 2013 22:36 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 22:32 marvellosity wrote:On February 18 2013 22:28 syllogism wrote:
It's hard to say as that would also narrow the field of realistically possible mafia candidates and him ignoring mattchew is only a small aspect of his play that makes him a candidate. Doing such an evaluation before the flip seems like a waste of time though. ok, I'll rephrase. why do you think matt is more likely mafia than hopeless? He has less content, hopeless seems a bit more involved and I'm lazy; I haven't really put that much thought into weighing my options today as it seems like we can lynch all the possibilities and still win. How about you tell me why you apparently think hopeless1der is the better lynch today?
Well, I can't explain super-well, some of it is feeling. Like I don't know what agenda matt has been pushing. He called coag/OO town at a point they were potential mislynches, and at a time where mafia needs potential mislynches. In contrast, Hopeless manner of posting still feels a bit off to me, plus he clearly pushed agenda on Day 1 of trying to get Zess lynched with a serious case. And his involvement has totally dropped off since.
I'm not that confident in these feelings, because of what sandroba mentinoed about matt not mentioning yamato, about matt's strange list of who he would have lynched, and because of his unexplained sheep on to me. So probably because i have stronger feelings that hopeless is mafia, then it's actually matt :/
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also suggesting syllo is scum seems a really dumb thing for a scum-matt to do
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First instance of Matt mentioning Grush.
On February 16 2013 08:39 Mattchew wrote:
Fuck sorry... I meant to vote and to be honest I would have voted artanis grush or hopeless.
Congrats guys I have to go read why that lynch happened and worked now
Doesn't exactly follow but expounds upon his previous post.
On February 18 2013 21:48 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 15:42 syllogism wrote:Mattchew looks like a decent alternative. He has been trying to make a fuzz about insignificant things such as Vivax realizing that Zess is supersoft. Even today he kept his focus on Vivax. Looks like typical lazy mafia tunneling to me. His reasons for finding Grush mafia are also suspect Too many trynabetroll accusations to guide the thread in voting What does that even mean? Grush is guiding the thread? ##unvote
##vote Mattchew It means that grush is not his normal troll star senses self... He's being more serious then his town meta normally is to me. No I don't think he is guiding the town but I feel like he has somewhat tried to which I don't believe town grush would do
It's possible that Grush is not his normal Starsenses self if he's not a VT. We've had a claim from him, right? Kinda staying a bit under the radar so as not to draw attention from either side too much while still trying to follow his town meta?
On February 18 2013 02:50 Mattchew wrote:
risk vote switched right alongside marv and art in a time period where it was highly unlikely any of them knew how the others would react. idk why scum would do that
This comes before his vote on Marv, so not the craziest vote in the world.
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I need to know if any town RBed WeWinMafia. Since the likely checks were Matt/Coag/OO and the RB was framer seems a bit random and wasteful for mafia to have RBed him.
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I have one problem with marvs play if he really should be scum :-/
Risk and marv played (too?) similar at the end of day1. Both voted me for no real reason and switched to yamato...
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On February 18 2013 22:55 sandroba wrote:
I need to know if any town RBed WeWinMafia. Since the likely checks were Matt/Coag/OO and the RB was framer seems a bit random and wasteful for mafia to have RBed him.
RB makes perfect sense in Marv is scum :-/
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Marv: well I don't really have strong feelings about the lynch order, but right now matt lynch appears to have more support
ObviousOne: in the future try to let people answer for themselves, in particular players we are considering lynching
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On February 18 2013 22:55 Zessionar wrote:
I have one problem with marvs play if he really should be scum :-/
Risk and marv played (too?) similar at the end of day1. Both voted me for no real reason and switched to yamato...
Marv said he misread something by Yamato, didn't he? Could explain why he as town wouldn't want to lynch Yamato. Yamato would have been an easy and convincing bus considering he wasn't even around and scum could have capitalized on that.
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