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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:32 layabout wrote: artanis, what do you think about grush? His filter looks horrendous, he seems to be putting in no effort into the game and he was on pretty much everyone's ass but Yamato's. I wouldn't shed a tear if he got shot this night. Hard to tell between a townie that's putting in no effort or scum trying to look as such though. | ||
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WeWinMafia
Bahamas102 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote: One just off the top of my head. You calling votes on mafia "irrelevant" after saying in LIX, as town, that we solved the game in large part through voting patterns. Just shit like that. You're just lying, when did I tell you to lynch supersoft? Why are you lying? Remember the ven-diagram I did? It's exactly the same thing here and that awesome Ven-diagram figured out Vivax by just combining 2 slight mafia-traits (it was "voting mafia late" and "willingness to vote the counterwagon" if I remember correctly). I'm not calling votes on mafia irrelevant. I'm saying that it makes you look bad to be voting him so late when you should have been perfectly fine voting Yamato according to your own reasoning, but you apparently weren't. Again, remember the ven diagram post? You've got like 4 mafiatraits hanging over your head right now and not just 2.... | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
It was SEVEN - SEVEN with LESS THAN ONE MINUTE to go. fuck me. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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WeWinMafia
Bahamas102 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:46 WeWinMafia wrote: Remember the ven-diagram I did? It's exactly the same thing here and that awesome Ven-diagram figured out Vivax by just combining 2 slight mafia-traits (it was "voting mafia late" and "willingness to vote the counterwagon" if I remember correctly). I'm not calling votes on mafia irrelevant. I'm saying that it makes you look bad to be voting him so late when you should have been perfectly fine voting Yamato according to your own reasoning, but you apparently weren't. Again, remember the ven diagram post? You've got like 4 mafiatraits hanging over your head right now and not just 2.... just in case your mafiamind is refusing to believe what I'm talking about: + Show Spoiler [click me] + On December 22 2012 02:22 Toadesstern wrote: I made a Ven-diagram to explain the situation: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pkw4k.png) People who voted WBG early on might be a mafia-treat. WBG was the most serious alternative to Wiggles besides Zelblade. Zelblade hasn't flipped yet but I mentioned that I can't imagine Wiggles and WBG both being mafia. Worst case would be wiggles = mafia, WBG = SK imo. Zelblade is still open, so that's why I only include the WBG votes. Also because the one flipped mafia voted WBG and obviously it's in mafias interest to not have Wiggles lynched, even if WBG is SK because they don't know that either. people who voted Wiggles late = the last 3 people imo. Could have added sciberbia if your definition of "late" is "exactly after majority has been reached" but I'd say that's too drastic. Vivax might be getting bonus points for voting morbidius but that's just speculation as long as neither of them flipped. and you're saying I'm a liar because I don't usually consider "late votes on mafia" a mafiatrait? Not only did I do it, it fucking works ALL THE TIME. The reason I said I don't care about the timing (and I added something about the lines of "wether it's #7,#8,#9 or #10 on the votelist) is because those people are all in the same boat and I'll eat my hat if not at least one or 2 out of those guys is a mafia who thought he has to switch. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
oh wait. No. | ||
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WeWinMafia
Bahamas102 Posts
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WeWinMafia
Bahamas102 Posts
I don't need to convince you after all | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
but you're hard to read generally so there didn't seem much point ever pushing you on it on day 1 at least. I can still see no good reason for you to be town. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On February 17 2013 00:56 WeWinMafia wrote: you still haven't given me a single reason for why you were so perfectly fine sheeping Sand on someone you didn't consider a lynch until he mentioned him while no't willing to sheep Sand on someone you wanted dead yourself as well so desperately, have you? more lies stop lying, lying toad. | ||
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Zessionar
Azerbaijan178 Posts
Marv, you fucked up when you voted me. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
it's the fact they can interpret basic fundamental events of a mafia game, whereas you are apparently completely incapable of doing so. I thought better of you. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Anyway, I think risk is probably town, grush too. Matt's iffy. coag scummy, OO scummy, Vivax maybe scummy maybe not. Toad lies and misrepresents, he's pretty damn scummy. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
risk also isn't as lurky as I'd expect him to be if he were mafia, plus he effectively hammered yamato, and actually I think his reaction after the lynch happened was kinda townie. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12970 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Zessionar
Azerbaijan178 Posts
Marv completely fails to justify his vote on me, same for risk. Both are players i just expect to be able to judge these kind of situations properly. Especially Marv voted me for absolutely no reason. He jumped all the way from - i wouldn't even vote him if the alternative is a nolynch, to pushing my lynch. Marv pushing vivax looks kind of artificial. Sure vivax looks terrible if you only look at the votings and the endphase of the lynch. But vivax is extremely agressive and spammy and i don't remember him like that in Kurumis game. I will go into further detail when i got some more time. | ||
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