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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 15:41 GMT
#981
On February 17 2013 00:32 layabout wrote:
artanis, what do you think about grush?

His filter looks horrendous, he seems to be putting in no effort into the game and he was on pretty much everyone's ass but Yamato's. I wouldn't shed a tear if he got shot this night. Hard to tell between a townie that's putting in no effort or scum trying to look as such though.
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 16 2013 15:46 GMT
#982
On February 17 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 00:38 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 16 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
On February 16 2013 23:49 Zessionar wrote:
medics protect me. Sandroba did nothing so far and he's good enough to be scum.
Marv looks scummy, only his voteswitch helps him.
Syllo was afk the whole day... i'd probably understand if you protect him...


Ignore this post out of hand. I don't look scummy, except to the person who managed to rack up a whole bunch of votes for playing so atrociously on day 1, and possible scum Toad.

protect syllo or sand, like syllo or sand said.

thefuck dude.
You still haven't given a single reason for thinking I am mafia except for "Sandro knows Toad, let's sheep Sandro because he said Toad might be mafia in a oneliner without explaining!" and you keep on doing this.
Again, you're the guy who told me to lynch Supersoft / hopeless / myself instead of Yamato based on a sheep without explanation, when you had all the reason to sheep him on Yamato as well.
Sandro said Yamato is looking bad as well yet you somehow ended up being totally fine sheeping everything he said except for the one thing you came up with yourself as well.

That's odd isn't it?


One just off the top of my head. You calling votes on mafia "irrelevant" after saying in LIX, as town, that we solved the game in large part through voting patterns. Just shit like that.

You're just lying, when did I tell you to lynch supersoft? Why are you lying?


Remember the ven-diagram I did? It's exactly the same thing here and that awesome Ven-diagram figured out Vivax by just combining 2 slight mafia-traits (it was "voting mafia late" and "willingness to vote the counterwagon" if I remember correctly).

I'm not calling votes on mafia irrelevant. I'm saying that it makes you look bad to be voting him so late when you should have been perfectly fine voting Yamato according to your own reasoning, but you apparently weren't.

Again, remember the ven diagram post? You've got like 4 mafiatraits hanging over your head right now and not just 2....
I win mafia!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 15:47 GMT
#983
toad what drugs are you on

It was SEVEN - SEVEN with LESS THAN ONE MINUTE to go. fuck me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 15:48 GMT
#984
simply enough, the very fact you continue to shovel suspicion at me for it, despite syllo saying i'm likely town from the voting, and despite sand saying so too, that is EXTREMELY suspicious by itself.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 16 2013 15:51 GMT
#985
On February 17 2013 00:46 WeWinMafia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote:
On February 17 2013 00:38 WeWinMafia wrote:
On February 16 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
On February 16 2013 23:49 Zessionar wrote:
medics protect me. Sandroba did nothing so far and he's good enough to be scum.
Marv looks scummy, only his voteswitch helps him.
Syllo was afk the whole day... i'd probably understand if you protect him...


Ignore this post out of hand. I don't look scummy, except to the person who managed to rack up a whole bunch of votes for playing so atrociously on day 1, and possible scum Toad.

protect syllo or sand, like syllo or sand said.

thefuck dude.
You still haven't given a single reason for thinking I am mafia except for "Sandro knows Toad, let's sheep Sandro because he said Toad might be mafia in a oneliner without explaining!" and you keep on doing this.
Again, you're the guy who told me to lynch Supersoft / hopeless / myself instead of Yamato based on a sheep without explanation, when you had all the reason to sheep him on Yamato as well.
Sandro said Yamato is looking bad as well yet you somehow ended up being totally fine sheeping everything he said except for the one thing you came up with yourself as well.

That's odd isn't it?


One just off the top of my head. You calling votes on mafia "irrelevant" after saying in LIX, as town, that we solved the game in large part through voting patterns. Just shit like that.

You're just lying, when did I tell you to lynch supersoft? Why are you lying?


Remember the ven-diagram I did? It's exactly the same thing here and that awesome Ven-diagram figured out Vivax by just combining 2 slight mafia-traits (it was "voting mafia late" and "willingness to vote the counterwagon" if I remember correctly).

I'm not calling votes on mafia irrelevant. I'm saying that it makes you look bad to be voting him so late when you should have been perfectly fine voting Yamato according to your own reasoning, but you apparently weren't.

Again, remember the ven diagram post? You've got like 4 mafiatraits hanging over your head right now and not just 2....

just in case your mafiamind is refusing to believe what I'm talking about:
+ Show Spoiler [click me] +
On December 22 2012 02:22 Toadesstern wrote:
I made a Ven-diagram to explain the situation:

[image loading]

People who voted WBG early on might be a mafia-treat. WBG was the most serious alternative to Wiggles besides Zelblade.
Zelblade hasn't flipped yet but I mentioned that I can't imagine Wiggles and WBG both being mafia. Worst case would be wiggles = mafia, WBG = SK imo. Zelblade is still open, so that's why I only include the WBG votes.
Also because the one flipped mafia voted WBG and obviously it's in mafias interest to not have Wiggles lynched, even if WBG is SK because they don't know that either.

people who voted Wiggles late = the last 3 people imo. Could have added sciberbia if your definition of "late" is "exactly after majority has been reached" but I'd say that's too drastic.

Vivax might be getting bonus points for voting morbidius but that's just speculation as long as neither of them flipped.


and you're saying I'm a liar because I don't usually consider "late votes on mafia" a mafiatrait?
Not only did I do it, it fucking works ALL THE TIME.

The reason I said I don't care about the timing (and I added something about the lines of "wether it's #7,#8,#9 or #10 on the votelist) is because those people are all in the same boat and I'll eat my hat if not at least one or 2 out of those guys is a mafia who thought he has to switch.
I win mafia!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 15:54 GMT
#986
ok dear. sand and syllo are wrong, you are right.

oh wait. No.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 16 2013 15:56 GMT
#987
you still haven't given me a single reason for why you were so perfectly fine sheeping Sand on someone you didn't consider a lynch until he mentioned him while no't willing to sheep Sand on someone you wanted dead yourself as well so desperately, have you?
I win mafia!
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 16 2013 15:57 GMT
#988
okay screw this. There's no need to talk to you...
I don't need to convince you after all
I win mafia!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 15:58 GMT
#989
because i can see no good reason you are town at all. nothing in your play suggests it to me.

but you're hard to read generally so there didn't seem much point ever pushing you on it on day 1 at least.

I can still see no good reason for you to be town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 15:59 GMT
#990
On February 17 2013 00:56 WeWinMafia wrote:
you still haven't given me a single reason for why you were so perfectly fine sheeping Sand on someone you didn't consider a lynch until he mentioned him while no't willing to sheep Sand on someone you wanted dead yourself as well so desperately, have you?


more lies

stop lying, lying toad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 16 2013 16:01 GMT
#991
Scummarv kisses Syllos and sandrobas asses as long as they protect him. :-)
Marv, you fucked up when you voted me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 16:02 GMT
#992
you're so deluded, supersoft. you're also bad at mafia if you still think i'm scum. Like, seriously.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 16:04 GMT
#993
by the way, it's nothing to do with sand and syllo protecting me.

it's the fact they can interpret basic fundamental events of a mafia game, whereas you are apparently completely incapable of doing so. I thought better of you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 16:06 GMT
#994
Marv, haven't you comprehended yet that anyone that accuses Zess is scum by default? We have 7 scum players this game.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 16:08 GMT
#995
right, yeah. Perhaps the germans signed a stupidity pact this game.

Anyway, I think risk is probably town, grush too. Matt's iffy. coag scummy, OO scummy, Vivax maybe scummy maybe not. Toad lies and misrepresents, he's pretty damn scummy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 16:09 GMT
#996
Why do you think Risk and Grush are town? Especially given Grush's awful filter.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 16:10 GMT
#997
grush always has an awful filter. Actually he's shown a level of interest that I find commensurate with his townplay, and is markedly less trolly than last time he played scum. I have no good reason to think he's scum (see LIX, where he was also town, and tell me his filter doesn't look awful).

risk also isn't as lurky as I'd expect him to be if he were mafia, plus he effectively hammered yamato, and actually I think his reaction after the lynch happened was kinda townie.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 16 2013 16:22 GMT
#998
I'm digging through grush' post history but I can't find a single game where he played scum. Which one do you mean?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2013 16:23 GMT
#999
ugh... LVI possibly? Or LVII. It's one of those 2.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 16 2013 16:31 GMT
#1000
Grush marv and risk look terrible. I think two of them are scum. Marv defending risk and grush doesnt make him look better.
Marv completely fails to justify his vote on me, same for risk. Both are players i just expect to be able to judge these kind of situations properly. Especially Marv voted me for absolutely no reason. He jumped all the way from - i wouldn't even vote him if the alternative is a nolynch, to pushing my lynch.
Marv pushing vivax looks kind of artificial. Sure vivax looks terrible if you only look at the votings and the endphase of the lynch. But vivax is extremely agressive and spammy and i don't remember him like that in Kurumis game.

I will go into further detail when i got some more time.
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