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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 12:48 GMT
#941
Yamato did indeed push Zess pretty hard, but so did Oats with gonzaw in LIX. Difference here is that yamato made up his reasons gradually since his initial ones were completely half-assed.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 16 2013 12:49 GMT
#942
Oats only pushed gonzaw later though, on day 2, when oats was already looking doomed himself. before then he hadn't pushed him at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 12:50 GMT
#943
I absolutely don't see how Zess gets away with what he's doing, he's playing so anti-town that people don't want to lynch him,you won't get around him if you don't look at how he builds his reads instead of how he responds to questions and accusations, which he either calls bad or ignores.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 16 2013 12:50 GMT
#944
not being funny Vivax, but it's precisely how you got away with playing in LIX
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 12:51 GMT
#945
On February 16 2013 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
Oats only pushed gonzaw later though, on day 2, when oats was already looking doomed himself. before then he hadn't pushed him at all.


And yamato had no reason to feel threatened when he posted his stuff about Zess?
Maybe you should actually read that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 12:52 GMT
#946
On February 16 2013 21:50 marvellosity wrote:
not being funny Vivax, but it's precisely how you got away with playing in LIX


I already explained why I played like I played in LIX. If you want me to play like that every time I'm town, you're an idiot.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 16 2013 12:53 GMT
#947
syllo is right though, there's absolutely no reason to look at the counterwagon to a hotly contested lynch that was decided in the last minute.

maybe zess is mafia after all, but it's really unlikely, and can be discovered later if it somehow is the case.

it's not mafia's inclination to randomly start the game off bussing and then continue bussing for the rest of his contributions. I may be mistaken, but in British Mini, he didn't come into the game bussing, did he?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 13:02 GMT
#948
On February 15 2013 01:25 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 01:23 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot.

Why don't you think Zess likes you, and why is his opinion of you alignment indicative at all?


On February 15 2013 01:40 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 01:33 risk.nuke wrote:
On February 15 2013 01:25 yamato77 wrote:
On February 15 2013 01:23 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot.

Why don't you think Zess likes you, and why is his opinion of you alignment indicative at all?

Read his posts and tell me if you reach a different conclusion otherwise I can't really be bothered to copying his posts and interpreting them for you..

It's not. However making up reasoning is.

Well I guess it makes sense since he jumped on me for the same kind of shit.

Do I see a trend appear? Who's next on his list, Marv?


In the first post you'd rather see some kind of soft-defence of Zess since he calls out nuke for calling him mafia or idiot.
If you look at the next you see him being pushed into that certain direction by risk's next post, looks like he felt the need to not defend Zess after doing the opposite, when people started pressuring him for the wishywashy, he actually started giving out forced scumreads on very weak reasoning, and tried to desperately give it a base in his bigger post.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 16 2013 13:15 GMT
#949
....

On January 31 2013 09:46 Vivax wrote:
By the way, if they're too stupid to coordinate each other's reads with each other, then it's their own problem, they would probably defend each other into oblivion by doing that.

One's mistake is the other's. No mercy for this disruptive element.


On February 01 2013 00:44 Vivax wrote:
Scum: EZ + xsksc>Prom>Sharrant

Pretty sure about EZ, unsure about everyone else.

Assuming that there's only one NK tonight.
Do what you want, just posting this for postgame :>

On January 31 2013 10:20 Vivax wrote:
My suspicion started with this question:

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 06:09 EmileZola wrote:
On January 30 2013 06:01 Vivax wrote:
He was SO sure about thrawn being scum that he immediately put you into the same box as him once he saw something that even just LOOKED like it could be a defence of him.

Me and VE weren't sure of thrawn either. It's natural as townie to not be sure. JX was sure of you for a connection but not sure of thrawn? How does that make sense.


Why do you connect yourself with VE like that?


Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 06:15 EmileZola wrote:
you seem to be concerned that your play doesnt look townie enought and therefor you show us that VE - the dead townie - plays the same.


Other than that, it's up to others to decide if he's scum.I can point to things, I can't hammer arguments into your head.

On February 01 2013 00:53 Vivax wrote:
That's a really good point Djo.

Do you guys have any reasons to believe EZ is town so far?

On February 01 2013 01:04 Vivax wrote:
I think EZ + Sharrant scum team makes sense at this point.

On February 01 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 06:45 EmileZola wrote:
okay townslip. in this setup the roles are random, hapa couldnt chose.
sharrant :-)



Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 07:51 Sharrant wrote:
On January 31 2013 07:48 EmileZola wrote:
If you seriously screw up the Jaylynch with your last-minute shit.
I thought about this game for hours now and you jerks won't destroy it with your paranoia and shit.

Jay is scum


FINALLY. That makes me happy to see, I feel so much more confident about you being town now.

##unvote
##vote Jay



They've given pretty easy reasons to read each other as town so quickly.

I find it weird anyway that you say to a scumread of yours: "OH nice, I'm sure you're town now".
A little of confirmation bias should always be there when you genuinely believe that you're talking to scum.

I suggest you simply read their filters imagining them as scum team.

EZ bussing thrawn with two dangly filters, Sharrant reluctantly calling thrawn a lurker lynch after he suspected him for lurking initially.


On February 01 2013 01:13 Vivax wrote:
What's even more fishy is that Sharrant gives EZ a townread for doing the exact opposite of what he himself wanted to do: Lynch yamato for his behaviour.

That was clearly acting.

On February 01 2013 01:17 Vivax wrote:
Who's with me to lynch either EZ or Sharrant tomorrow?

On February 01 2013 01:41 Vivax wrote:
How about you start listing the things that supposedly make you town?


....

you got our vig shooting sharrant, the townie with your shit...
you got me post every fucking thing I had at night...
and you interrupted me pushing scum...

You are the worst player ever. The problem isn't that you're wrong everytime, the problem is, that you're so annoying, that you destroy ever other discussion and thoughprocess.

and I am not the only one who thinks that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 13:17 GMT
#950
And the point of that post is? Answer my question instead, model player.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 16 2013 13:18 GMT
#951
now calm down, vivax. You almost saved yamato day1 and got me killed. It's sad that I have to act like this towards you, but I cannot help myself other than this.
You're killing my concentration and you're annoying me extremely.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 16 2013 13:19 GMT
#952
everything you said in this game so far is useless and wrong. You haven't learned ANYTHING from last game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 13:20 GMT
#953
I'm not posting ad hominem shit, so I don't have to calm down.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 13:20 GMT
#954
How about you say for the first time in the game who you want to lynch without posting a shitty list you don't even follow yourself?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 13:22 GMT
#955
Oh right it's so much easier to pick a list of people who are likely going to get lynched and then bend to whatever comes into your reach even when it isn't in your fucking list.

Attacking others for being sure about yamato being town when you believe he's scum in your list.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
February 16 2013 13:28 GMT
#956
On February 16 2013 06:48 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 06:46 sandroba wrote:
I don't have the time to look into him, but if you think that's the best place for my vote I'll do it. Be quick though.

I haven't looked at him enough either, I think it's risky for you to move your vote right now though if we don't even know that we have the votes

Syllo is town. This ratio of mafia:town means that if mafia has 2 kp, which is reasonable since 1 kp is too little even for these numbers, means that town prob has one or more protective roles. So protect this man. Marv is likely town as well, but since some people believe he may still be mafia he is a less likely/worst shot for scum, so my sugestion is that you protect syllo instead.
Mattchew, obliviousone, coag are decent vigs/checks.
It's quite possible one or more mafia bussed yamato early on, due to knowing that he wouldn't have time to play, but that should be the focus only on later days if we start missing on lynches.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 13:37 GMT
#957
We still don't know how matt will be handled by Bugs for not voting, I wouldn't risk wasting powers on him.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
February 16 2013 13:41 GMT
#958
He isn't dead is he? I imagine that if he is scum, which I believe there is a fair shot he is, he won't be modkilled because 2 scum dead by day1 would completely ruin the game.
If you read his filter you will notice that he never mentioned yamato's wagon, despite giving his opinion on several other people and even tried to introduce a new cadidate very close to the deadline.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 16 2013 13:43 GMT
#959
Ideally the medic should rng between two people, perhaps sandro and me since we are both pretty much confirmed town by this point. In this situation trying to actually stop the kill is better than "guaranteeing" that a certain player survives the night. Frankly I'm not overly fond of the idea of having to play the game for possibly several days and if the medic is locked on me there is no way mafia will risk targeting me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
February 16 2013 13:50 GMT
#960
Hopeless announced that Bugs will be back at some point to decide about matt, I'd expect some announcement before being sure about his survival.

His activity is so low that him not mentioning yamato can't be attributed reliably to his alignment. If he's scum I don't see him risking a modkill by not voting, so he probably has a rl reason for not talking about yamato. But nothing's sure at this point.
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